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they would be huntering uxie trying to get a new gengar
they would be huntering uxie trying to get a new gengar
Hm, I still hope TPCi doesn't print Lost World here. This and Gengar Prime wouldn't just change the meta, it would send it into complete chaos.
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oh yeah and sp will snipe that uxie. not to mention pick up their crobats/garchomps/luxrays to lol at you when you hunter
Poison wouldn't do much against Cubone, a decent Cubone deck would run 4 Poke Healer + and at least 2 Nidoqueen.
Gengar can easily spread 4 damage counters on 4 different poke's and then spread with Gengar LVX to knock them out and send them to the lost zone. I think that's much better then relying on the pokés in your opponents hand.
3 energies on a stage 2 lv.x that can be 2hko'd by luxray, garchomp or dialga, and ohko'd by absol g. That'll show em.Gengar can easily spread 4 damage counters on 4 different poke's and then spread with Gengar LVX to knock them out and send them to the lost zone. I think that's much better then relying on the pokés in your opponents hand.
It's sp, should crobats really need to be said?60x2 doesn't equal 140. Resistance.
3 energies on a stage 2 lv.x that can be 2hko'd by luxray, garchomp or dialga, and ohko'd by absol g. That'll show em.
2HKO by Luxray, yep . . . for 3 Energy (or 2 and a Gain) + 2 discards.
2HKO by Chomp, no . . . Resistance, and you would need to cycle the Chomp anyway, spending 2DCE to KO one Pokemon. How many Bats + Turns are you going to spend doing this?
2HKO by DGX, yep . . . for 4 Energy (or 3 and a Gain)
OHKO by Absol G . . . Absol G? Absol G? Is that a real reason not to do anything?
Also for garchomp, I know it's a little hard to do the math there, but that would be 2 flashbites.It's sp, should crobats really need to be said?
Also for garchomp, I know it's a little hard to do the math there, but that would be 2 flashbites.
EDIT: do you really want to defend spreadgar prime just so you can disagree with me?
And this:LOL . . . always so patronising, with so little to be patronising about. Just so you know, making these little snarky comments does not disguise the poor quality of your argument.
to 2HKO Gengar X with Chomp you are going to need . . .
2 Flashbites
2 DCE
A way of using Dragon Rush on consecutive turns (2 Chomp Xs out, or 2 Chomp C and another PokeTurn).
Is it possible? Yes.
Is it a convincing reason not to use Gengar X in the manner proposed? Not at all.
wasn't condescending at all. Clearly a quality argument against absol.OHKO by Absol G . . . Absol G? Absol G? Is that a real reason not to do anything?
So this has nothing to do with you thinking that spreadgar prime is viable, but just to argue.No, I'm just suggesting that if you want to attack the deck, you need better ammunition.
And this:
wasn't condescending at all. Clearly a quality argument against absol.
Also, are we gonna talk about all of them, or one of my examples? I mean if we're gonna talk about quality of arguments, I don't see how well yours is doing by changing the conversation to a part of my post instead of all of it.
EDIT:So this has nothing to do with you thinking that spreadgar prime is viable, but just to argue.
Yeah I thought that was a short and descriptive way of referring to the idea. Also, you did get me though, they don't exactly clean shop against gengar, but absol is something to consider if making a gengar deck. I know it's a silly idea, but if gengar's getting so much hype that even if it doesn't live up to it, absol should be popping up here and there from it being played so widely.I have no idea if 'spreadgar prime' (did you just make that name up?) is viable or not, as I haven't tested it. I suspect there are better ways of using Gengar.
Your desire to shoot the deck down, citing a bunch of expensive 2HKOs, struck me as being pretty poor, so I thought I would see if I could get anyone to give more valid reasons as to why the deck doesn't work. If they could, it would save me some playtesting time.