Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Cessation Crystal

sorry i didn't check the spoiler i assumed that like most stage 2 deltas it was metal.... hmmm well not that easy to shut off then. but like you said its not that super so we will just have to wait and see.
and how would this vrs. shiftry ex go? would the token shut off the body first or would the gardy take 20 then shut off the power
 
I look back at cards that have made a big impact in this game. A lot of the time those cards are really good but with no easy to figure out way to play them. For example, Raichu δ. The second I saw the card, I knew it was good. But I didn't know the right way to play it. Before I know, a new big deck comes around with, to my amazement, Raichu δ. I was shocked to see the strategy of the deck, but wasn't surprised a good deck came out of the card.

This card gives me the same feeling. The feeling that this card is just way too good. Sure, it has counters, but most everything does. And I look at Pidgeot. A broken card IMHO, that had many counters (including Medicham/Battle Frontier/Pidgeot δ/ etc) and yet it still plays a large part of one of the best decks (the best in some eyes) of this format.

A card can have counters, and still do well. You really have to research just how effective those counters are. If most decks (flamingspinach exaggerated with 98% of all cards but most decks are affected by it) can't run the card (Cessation Crystal), and decks tech for the tool, what do those players do when a tech'd deck faces a tech'd deck. Does the tech have multiple uses, weither or not your facing the deck you've tech'd for?

Windstorm is the obvious counter to Cessation Crystal. But just how effective is the card overall? It can discard tools and stadiums, which gives it some use against decks that don't run Cessation Crystal, but I don't think it really works as well as just running an extra stadium and trumping the opponent's stadium. Also, with very little way to search for a non-supporter trainer, just how likely are you to get one in your hand when your powers and bodies are shut off?

Decks that run Magcargo and other searching powers could go after the windstorm first, just incase the other player plays the Cessation Crystal, but what do other decks do? Cessation Crystal hurts so many decks, and many of them have no search at all. Lets look at what big decks we've seen this format that have no search that Cessation Crystal would hurt.

Mewtric
Mynx
Medicham
Flariados
JynxFett
DragTrode
LunaRock
Scrambled Eggs

All these decks have no way to search their deck for a Windstorm. Some of these decks can counter it another way, but very few can. Cessation Crystal is a hard counter to many of these decks.

In conclusion, I wouldn't laugh at this card, or think that a simple Windstorm just solves this problem. Cessation Crystal is a very powerful card, and with no clear counter to it in the future set, I could definitely see it playing a large part in a new big deck.
 
wow prime that was a long and very thought out comment, i will admit i've never really seen your point on many other topics but that was pretty much right slap it on chu or Kingler d of anything its searchable and easy to use in a deck with powers and body's ( if there not e'x and not important after) and makes alot of stuff like golem more playable. Thanks for that.
 
Cessation Crystal will be simply wicked in Tyability. Granted, it doesn't give Typhlosion the HP boost that Energy Root does, but the shutting down of your opponent's Powers/Bodies more than makes up for it.

- Croatian "more than one way to stabilize a 'Phlosion" Nidoking
 
Prime said:
I look back at cards that have made a big impact in this game. A lot of the time those cards are really good but with no easy to figure out way to play them. For example, Raichu δ. The second I saw the card, I knew it was good. But I didn't know the right way to play it. Before I know, a new big deck comes around with, to my amazement, Raichu δ. I was shocked to see the strategy of the deck, but wasn't surprised a good deck came out of the card.

This card gives me the same feeling. The feeling that this card is just way too good. Sure, it has counters, but most everything does. And I look at Pidgeot. A broken card IMHO, that had many counters (including Medicham/Battle Frontier/Pidgeot δ/ etc) and yet it still plays a large part of one of the best decks (the best in some eyes) of this format.

A card can have counters, and still do well. You really have to research just how effective those counters are. If most decks (flamingspinach exaggerated with 98% of all cards but most decks are affected by it) can't run the card (Cessation Crystal), and decks tech for the tool, what do those players do when a tech'd deck faces a tech'd deck. Does the tech have multiple uses, weither or not your facing the deck you've tech'd for?

Windstorm is the obvious counter to Cessation Crystal. But just how effective is the card overall? It can discard tools and stadiums, which gives it some use against decks that don't run Cessation Crystal, but I don't think it really works as well as just running an extra stadium and trumping the opponent's stadium. Also, with very little way to search for a non-supporter trainer, just how likely are you to get one in your hand when your powers and bodies are shut off?

Decks that run Magcargo and other searching powers could go after the windstorm first, just incase the other player plays the Cessation Crystal, but what do other decks do? Cessation Crystal hurts so many decks, and many of them have no search at all. Lets look at what big decks we've seen this format that have no search that Cessation Crystal would hurt.

Mewtric
Mynx
Medicham
Flariados
JynxFett
DragTrode
LunaRock
Scrambled Eggs

All these decks have no way to search their deck for a Windstorm. Some of these decks can counter it another way, but very few can. Cessation Crystal is a hard counter to many of these decks.

In conclusion, I wouldn't laugh at this card, or think that a simple Windstorm just solves this problem. Cessation Crystal is a very powerful card, and with no clear counter to it in the future set, I could definitely see it playing a large part in a new big deck.
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blows away half/whole body...wow ok this forum has now been discussed by one post....Matt you just rocked...kudus to you man
 
Totally agree with Prime.

I really think Kingler d will rock this card and soon the Metagame. I mean, this card will definently expand to a powerhouse.

ROr
 
DarkMagnus said:
sorry i didn't check the spoiler i assumed that like most stage 2 deltas it was metal.... hmmm well not that easy to shut off then. but like you said its not that super so we will just have to wait and see.
and how would this vrs. shiftry ex go? would the token shut off the body first or would the gardy take 20 then shut off the power
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Hi DarkMagnus,

Since abilitiesof the active player resolves first Gardevoir δ ex would shut down Shiftry before it can hurt the own team. Another reason this kind of seal counters is nice since it allows one to use the own abilities while the other side is shut down.

Hi Prime,

Nice review on the usefulness of Cessation Crystal. The card is indeed a force to take into consideration since most decks revolve around Poké-Bodies or Poké-Powers in the current and future environment.

However I disagree on the review of Windstorm. That card is at the same level as Cessation Crystal since mon-abilities based decks tend to unmake the lack of abilities with tools or stadiums. You stated that one or two more stadium cards are a better choice than Windstorm. From my point of view Windstorm opens up the possibilities for stadiumless decks. Not all decks benefit from stadiums alike and in some decks the stadium serves as a mere counter to other stadium cards. In such cases four Windstorms could take over the slots of the stadium cards since those are more versatile and cannot be locked out with Golduck δ.

Cards that do benefit the most from Cessation Crystal would be Typhlosion decks and some Holon rush decks in addition to Machamp in case psychic types become less common.
 
Hi Dark Umbreon :p

Your right, decks could go straight Windstorm and not even have to bother with stadiums. But I feel that a lot of stadiums can help out matchups (ex: a ludicargo deck running battle frontier to counter Shiftry EX) in ways that Windstorm just doesn't help. Stadiums can be offensive (hurts/limits your opponent's deck, ex: Cursed Stone or Battle Frontier) or defensive (protects your deck and/or helps you out, ex: Power Tree or Ancient Tomb) to help your pokemon survive longer and increase your chances of winning. Windstorm can definitely be defensive when it needs to be, discarding stadiums and tools that hurt you, but I don't see it benefitting you in anyway other than that.

You might be right that some decks do not benefit very well from stadiums, but I find that many decks do, enough to warrant the steady use of stadiums.

Your opponent plays a stadium down. You can either trump their stadium or play a windstorm. One of those choices often ends in you gaining some sort of advantage over your opponent by either hurting/shutting them down, or helping/protecting you. The other choice leaves the field empty and doesn't benefit either player. Both choices have the same effect. What do you do?
 
i think what umbreon is saying is while a stadiums is good to counter a stadium the only way to stop the chard is to 1 ko the guy its on bench him or windstorm so who knows 2 windstrom might become standard along with the 4 counter stadiums we are used to.... at least we wont have to play 5-6 stadiums any more.... heck i know some deck i don't know what stadium o play
 
Hi Prime,

There are indeed decks which benefit from stadium cards or even need them to work well but there are also decks which run stadiums to counter other stadiums with little benefit from the stadium on its own. In the later case Windstorm would be a more versatile choice. In decks which benefit mediocre from certain stadiums one could break even on windstorm and the chosen stadium to have a more versatile trainer choice.

For instance decks based on Poké-Powers cannot run most of the offensive stadium cards since those would shut them down too. There are also tools now which hurt said themes. In this case windstorm or an even break between a medicore assistive stadium and windstorm would be better choices.
 
ces•sa•tion

Pronunciation: (se-sā'shun), [key]
—n.
a temporary or complete stopping; discontinuance: a cessation of hostilities.

Random House Unabridged Dictionary, Copyright © 1997, by Random House, Inc., on Infoplease

Why fancy words for simpler words?
 
yeah but pokemons target audiance is like 7-15 i know older people play it but the target doesn't know what that means heck i'm lucky enough to know what it means and thats not saying much. i would have just called it seal. so you can use seal in sealed to stopped the power seal lol
 
DarkMagnus said:
yeah but pokemons target audiance is like 7-15 i know older people play it but the target doesn't know what that means heck i'm lucky enough to know what it means and thats not saying much. i would have just called it seal. so you can use seal in sealed to stopped the power seal lol
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because if it is called Seal Crystal stupid people will think it can only be used on or with Seleo and Speal

PUI did not want to make the game confusing:rolleyes:
 
wouldnt surprise me
at one of our tournoments in florida, one kid asked that if he swooped a pichu bros, could he get out two poke because that is how many are depicted on the card
dead silence greeted this question, and hiedi calmly told him no
people assume stupid things
 
Like I said, and then another guy posted the dictionary.com defenition after me, it means to cease (in lehmans terms)

I will call it Cease Crystal...
 
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