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Collation of Next Destinies

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Imhotep said:
THIS IS NOT DIFFERENT.

For God's sake. Are people so stupid to seriously not get how this actually works. Whilst there may be a difference in Holo/Prime etc pull rates, this is not evidence of it whatsoever.

Obviously it has to be weighted in relation to how many there are in the set of each type of card.

Now supposing a set had 10 normal holos, and 2 primes/EXs/whatever. And you pull one of each card per box. This means the rate is EXACTLY EQUAL. Even though it is "1 in 3" vs "2 per box" etc. You can get less of a specific type of card in relation to another, simply because there are less OF that type of card. It doesn't mean the pull rates are different between actual specific cards.

Here is some food for thought: did anyone know that the FA Reshiram/Zekrom in BW are MORE COMMON than the standard holo versions? Because you get one of each per box (1 per box! sounds rare, right). But that leaves less than 1 per box spaces left for the regular holo cards, so they end up LESS than 1 per box. You would get say the FA Zekrom, but possibly no normal Zekrom (ignoring RH), or no Klinklang, or Zoroark, or Serperior or whatever.

No doubt whatever it is with the EXs, whether they truly are rarer or not, people will misinterpret. You can only compare rarities if you count the TOTAL numbers or holos + 'chase' holos in the set, and work out the rarities IN RELATION to the amount of each in the set... it is like saying getting a 6 on a die is rarer than 1,2,3,4 or 5 because they are 5/6 in chance or 1/6 chance. It doesn't make 6 an ultra rare, even if it did happen to have an omg cool shiny border.

Collate data of card pulls for EACH card then you will see what the difference in rarity is. You should realize that as the frequency of "CHASE" holo card pulls go up, the amount of "NORMAL" holo card pulls goes DOWN such that it no longer is 1 in 3... other than with primes of course in the set which took the RH spot as mentioned. If you get 6 EX/full ART/shiny whatever, then you are only getting 6 "NORMAL" holos... doesnt sound that common given how many there are

I'm seriously angry. This is my final post on here. ragequit
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If you had read the thread instead of raging, you'd know that Primes took up the Reverse Holo slot in a pack and not the Rare slot. The number of holos has nothing to do with the number of Primes, since you can get both in a single pack. You got 6 or so Primes per box, PLUS the normal number of holos.
 
Don't the full arts just go in the "random foil slot" of a box, which should work out to 2 full arts and 1 shiny in most boxes, if it's just factored in as 6/103 for ex's and 4/103 for shinies.

I don't think you can base it too much off of one box though. I had an Emerging Powers box that netted me 3 Full Art Tornadus and 2 Full Art Thundurus, so I imagine there are boxes that go the other way with less full arts than you would expect in a box too.
 
Charranitar said:
Don't the full arts just go in the "random foil slot" of a box, which should work out to 2 full arts and 1 shiny in most boxes, if it's just factored in as 6/103 for ex's and 4/103 for shinies.

I don't think you can base it too much off of one box though. I had an Emerging Powers box that netted me 3 Full Art Tornadus and 2 Full Art Thundurus, so I imagine there are boxes that go the other way with less full arts than you would expect in a box too.
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Unlike every other card in the history of the Pokemon TCG, the FAs don't seem to be random. 2 FA are pulled so consistently that it's ridiculous.
 
Charranitar said:
Don't the full arts just go in the "random foil slot" of a box, which should work out to 2 full arts and 1 shiny in most boxes, if it's just factored in as 6/103 for ex's and 4/103 for shinies.

I don't think you can base it too much off of one box though. I had an Emerging Powers box that netted me 3 Full Art Tornadus and 2 Full Art Thundurus, so I imagine there are boxes that go the other way with less full arts than you would expect in a box too.
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Where do you get your boxes...? I've never heard of +3 FA's.
 
King Piplup said:
Where do you get your boxes...? I've never heard of +3 FA's.
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For all previous sets, I got my boxes from Troll and Toad.

That Emerging Powers box I got was probably the most broken box of pokemon cards ever. 5 full arts, 2 good Gothitelle, playset of Beartic, blinged out playset of Tornadus (3 FA/1 RH), full playset of Thundurus, I think 4, maybe 5 pokemon catcher. Just bought one box of the set, and that one box gave me everything I needed, especially since I never had any urge to play Gothitelle.

As for my other boxes from them, it was pretty standard stuff. 6 primes per box, with 2 legends. 2 Shinies in COL. In Noble Victories, in both 2 boxes got 2 FA and the Meowth in both boxes....but only 1 Kyurem between the box.

For Next Destinies I pre-ordered from Potomac Distribution because Troll and Toad has gone crazy with their shipping prices, while Potomac gives free shipping. Never used them before this, but they had a perfect 5 star rating on Google Shopping, so they seem legit.
 
I got the news by word of mouth, so it may/may not be true. I cant imagine that anyone would straight up lie with news that awful so it may actually be factual. Being as prereleases start this week some TOs might already have their supplies.
 
RandomCaterpie said:
I got the news by word of mouth, so it may/may not be true. I cant imagine that anyone would straight up lie with news that awful so it may actually be factual. Being as prereleases start this week some TOs might already have their supplies.
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That's a logical fallacy is I ever heard one. People lie, are wrong, or baselessly speculate all the time. Not to mention word of mouth is fairly inaccurate most of the time.
 
I wouldnt be surprised if it is wrong, and i hope to Arceus that it is. I would hate for the EX's to be so rare, it would drive the price of Mewtwo out the roof. But also looking at it from the point of Pokemon, making the EX pokemon that rare would be a great business plan because it would move huge amounts of product. Just try not to be too disappointed when you only pull 3 total EX pokemon.
 
Yet most PTO's open at least one box for their own usage as soon as they get their hands on their supplies for prereleases - I know, since I used to be one. Whether or not they would verbally give out info regarding pull ratios to generate player enthusiasm is for you to decide. Personally .... I know I did. Perhaps they may be a bit careful not to put that info online, but I certainly don't think some minor verbal info has ever been kept entirely secret, and even then I have a feeling the PTO's would tell the truth. What profit would it be to the PTO's to lie about pull ratios? If they were wrong by overstating the set's worth, do you think people would ever trust them again?

So essentially, if the pull ratios are high, then great. If they are not, ... then TPCi may not have control of what the ratios are. It's kinda tough to call without knowing all the facts so premature anger is probably not a good idea. Then once the facts are known, it's best to direct the anger (if any) to the proper source. Lets just wait until next weekend.
 
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Tagrineth said:
I doubt the EX this time around will be more rare than Primes, considering the *old* EX are basically the slot that our FA cards take up now. So with 6 FA cards I'd expect 2 per box.

Likewise with the "shiny" cards, there are 4 different ones, 1 per 3 boxes would make individual ones ungodly difficult to get, I'm expecting those to be 1 per box (so 2 FA, 1 shiny per box). Usually with those kind of cards (eg Pikachu, Meowth) when they are 1 per 3 boxes, there's only the one "special rare" card, rather than 4... so if they're 1 per box that means each unique shiny is 1/4 boxes but you always get one of the four.
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I'm sorry but Primes were too frequent. There weren't even really chasers. I think that you are wrong, I think it will go back to what it use to be, not what Primes were, plus they appeared in a different slot in the pack.

bullados said:
Drew, I seem to remember different pokemon-ex ratios for RS and SS. I think RS had upwards of double-digit exs, and SS had at least 6-8.
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Yeah, those two sets had 6 per box, not 8. However after that set, and for the next 14 sets it was the ratio that I gave.

Drew
 
When you open up 2 boxes and STILL have to buy 3 tins to get an appropriate number of Typhlosion Prime, it's still a Chaser type of card...
 
I really hope that bit about 3 EXs per box, including the FAs, is not true. That would be absolutely horrifying in terms of completing Next Destinies. I mean there's six of EACH and that's not even counting the shiny cards!
 
Thundergod92 said:
I hope its not because half of them are gonna come out in tins so its just such a downer when you pull those.
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No way, there are a lot of people (myself included) that collect sets. Pulling any EX will be fine at any rate since there are no shortage of people looking for those cards to either play or collect. :)
 
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