Collector's Cache

[waynegg]

Pop, Evil.. Is this a dead issue now?

 

[Mune]

Pop, Evil.. Is this a dead issue now?

I also like to make myself look cool by asking the mods to close threads when I have zero relevance.

 

[sol de luna]

I really didn't want to post here, but unfortunately this whole post has gone on long enough and I have to state my opinion in order to complete the chain. I am the 'victim' in this mess and I say 'victim' loosely because I'm not angry at Collector's Cache or the poster of this topic (but I'm sad that things have come to this). What I'm about to post is my honest opinion and the truth about this ordeal.

First off, the poster (Omastar) is a friend of mine whom I loaned 4 Smeargle to before Kansas States, in order to help him build a deck. On the following Saturday, Kansas States took place at Collector's Cache, and Omastar wished to return the cards to me that day. I arrived late, and upon getting to the venue, Omastar informed me that he gave my cards to Collector's Cache to hold onto. Keep in mind that the store was very BUSY that day, lots of people there to buy/sell/trade cards because of states.

I will admit partial blame here, in that I completely forgot to pick my cards from the counter, thus causing some of this problem to occur. However, I am unsure as to why Omastar didn't just hold onto my cards and give them to me personally, even if they were a burden to hold onto (4 cards can be fit into a deck box with no trouble, so space isn't an issue). I think the blame can be split three ways: one to my friend who didn't give me the cards directly, Cache for accidentally losing them, and myself for forgetting to retrieve them. I hold no grudges towards the other parties in this matter. I just want the truth.

I've talked with Collector's Cache for the past few weeks in order to get this resolved, and in the process, I've heard many conflicting stories. Collector's Cache has worked to try and find the lost cards, which I greatly appreciated, and as of now have offered me some form of compensation (which I'm also grateful for). The incident, in my opinion, was almost resolved...until this post came up. Before it was posted, I asked Omastar to not post anything on a public forum. This isn't something the general player base needs to know about, and plus, I hate unnecessary conflict. It seems, however, Omastar didn't think about the consequences this post could create or my feelings towards the matter. I'm disappointed in how this post has created chaos and is completely inaccurate. Cache didn't steal or intentionally sell my cards and I most certainly don't value those cards at 50 dollars (4 smeargle range from 5-7 each/about 21-28 dollars). The cards just became misplaced during the busy states most likely, an accident, but not intentional.

I hope that by stating my opinion, this argument will cool off and no more damage will be done.

 

[chase4787]

^ that's the story I'm believing.

I'm really surprised the whole "the customer is always right" argument didn't come up.

 

[Squirtle]

So I'm totally neutral on this one. Have no prior feelings one way or the other, but it really sounds like the OP messed up, knew he messed up, and then tried to create a diversion take blame someone else..

(btw, what deck even plays 4 smeargle?? That was your first problem)

 

[evil psyduck]

So the OP is the one that caused the problem so he should be the one replacing the cards. After all he borrowed the cards from you and didn't want to bother holding onto them and returning them to you himself.

 

[HypnosProjectHQ]

I think since this is a forum, the OP and everyone else on their thread should be allowed to voice their opinions... especially without the mods and admins accusing the OP of fault or telling him he is lying. It looks very unprofessional on your parts. But then again, this is Pokegym...

I will believe this until I hear something from Collectors Cache to otherwise prove their innocence.

 

[tehmoe]

seriously, this story is just stupid. all i am reading is, "this store is terrible because of situation x" "the store replies back with situation y" "5 days later actual story arrives with situation z." people dont have anything better to do than complain about 4 smeargle? you'd risk the good relationship with the league owners over 4 smeargle? you'd do anything at this point for 4 smeargle? what are you 5?

now if this was expensive.dec i could understand the loss of 200 dollars worth of stuff. but its not. its 4 smeargle...
this thread is pointless.

also even at 12 bucks each 4 smeargle does not = 50+ dollars. and if your buying them at that price, learn 2 shop. or learn 2 trade. heck just learn something in general.

 

[qnetyk]

@sol...I'm sure everyone that has been acually keeping up with this thread thanks you for the complete story in absolute truth

@Omastar...man, I'm highly disappointed in you for this thread...you borrow one person's cards, give them to the store to hold because you said you didn't have the room to carry six cards??? (which is where this problem starts to begin with, and is highly irresponsible)...if you were worried about her not showing, because she was late, you have her number...you've could've called her to make sure she was gonna make it or not......now, I do know that CC shouldn't have lost said cards, but CC shouldn't have been given the cards to hold in the first place...you borrowed the cards, they were entrusted to your care, not CC's...you should have given the cards back to her (which was something you admitted to her, when you spoke to her about it)...and lastly, this thread should have never been posted, like she asked of you (I too, was there and saw the text messages)...I do agree with sol, in which she says the blame doesn't solely fall on you...but...this whole situation started with you...and what you have said about CC concerning this situation is completely bogus, especially when they offered to pay you for something that wasn't directly their fault to begin with...so no matter how much posturing and redirecting you try, the direct cause of this whole situation was your irresponsibility to return what you borrowed directly to the owner...and instead of attacking CC with this post, you should be commending them for trying to come up with a customer service solution for a problem they didn't directly cause, the fact that they would do something like hold cards, which is something most large stores (like CC) doesn't do, and the fact that they are pretty much the only store in the area that will take in cards for pokemon without completely "robbing" you

@CC...it sux you had to change your policy concerning that...the things that you, Feral Events, and Chairman Kaga have done for pokemon in this area is greatly appreciated...without you guys, I'm pretty sure there would be a lot less organized play going on for pokemon here

 

[thisguy]

I think if anything this thread shows how deceitful Omastar is, leading people to believe that they were lost cards being returned and then sold off to try and turn people against CC instead of admitting it was almost entirely his fault, stay classy.

 

[Jeremy Badeaux]

I know that blind anger seems to be the flavor of the day, and I'm happy that there was some level of closure (in that the affected party posted their side of the story), but it still seems odd that CC has had so many different answers.

There is no record of the cards being sold, but an employee supposedly said that those same cards were sold.
The store claims that it just learned who the cards belonged to, even though the owner supposedly approached the store (as the owner of the cards) a while ago.

Omastar did more than embellish his version of the events, but it certainly looks foolish to claim that he is the only offender.

Omastar did something irresponsible (to put it mildly) and proceeded to install his foot into his mouth. I would hope that we can all agree on that much.
Incidentally, it will likely be a little while before people lend cards to him again. lol

 

[Cyrus]

Cute little fit of hearsay we have going on here!

 

[sentimentGX4]

I think if anything this thread shows how deceitful Omastar is, leading people to believe that they were lost cards being returned and then sold off to try and turn people against CC instead of admitting it was almost entirely his fault, stay classy.

This was NOT Omastar's fault completely. Exclusive of his laziness, Collector's Cache still holds responsibility for agreeing to handle the cards and losing them.

Users have been heavily biased against Omastar for most of the thread and completely ignored the fact that Collector's Cache made up a bunch of BS to make itself look better as well. 'We potentially, mistakenly acquired the cards when Omastar was playing a prank.' NO. The store knowingly acquired the cards and there was no prank. This is NOT an honest way to conduct business.

Furthermore, it's completely possible that Omastar really had reported the cards as lost to Collector's Cache. I do not see another reason why they would accept the cards and serve as a personal messenger. Collector's Cache could have been mislead by Omastar to think that the cards were lost property from a random person that the owner would never approach it for and never realize it acquired the cards if he did.

It could have gone on to knowingly sell lost property when it is taken aback that there is an owner asking for the Smeargles and be fully confident the store had acquired them.

 

[crazypokemon]

So this is what is like to be on gym, have a issue with something/someone and have people be against me and question what am i thinking.

Feels different to be on another side of a heated discussion.

Usually I'm in the same position as the first sentence.

 

[evil psyduck]

I think since this is a forum, the OP and everyone else on their thread should be allowed to voice their opinions... especially without the mods and admins accusing the OP of fault or telling him he is lying. It looks very unprofessional on your parts. But then again, this is Pokegym...

I will believe this until I hear something from Collectors Cache to otherwise prove their innocence.

So everyone else can give their opinion except for the mods? Simple fact is he borrowed the cards he should be the one to return them.

 

[PokePop]

I think since this is a forum, the OP and everyone else on their thread should be allowed to voice their opinions... especially without the mods and admins accusing the OP of fault or telling him he is lying. It looks very unprofessional on your parts. But then again, this is Pokegym...

I will believe this until I hear something from Collectors Cache to otherwise prove their innocence.

So everyone EXCEPT staff have a right to free speech?

nice...:nonono:

 

[PokePop]

I really didn't want to post here, but unfortunately this whole post has gone on long enough and I have to state my opinion in order to complete the chain. I am the 'victim' in this mess and I say 'victim' loosely because I'm not angry at Collector's Cache or the poster of this topic (but I'm sad that things have come to this). What I'm about to post is my honest opinion and the truth about this ordeal.

First off, the poster (Omastar) is a friend of mine whom I loaned 4 Smeargle to before Kansas States, in order to help him build a deck. On the following Saturday, Kansas States took place at Collector's Cache, and Omastar wished to return the cards to me that day. I arrived late, and upon getting to the venue, Omastar informed me that he gave my cards to Collector's Cache to hold onto. Keep in mind that the store was very BUSY that day, lots of people there to buy/sell/trade cards because of states.

I will admit partial blame here, in that I completely forgot to pick my cards from the counter, thus causing some of this problem to occur. However, I am unsure as to why Omastar didn't just hold onto my cards and give them to me personally, even if they were a burden to hold onto (4 cards can be fit into a deck box with no trouble, so space isn't an issue). I think the blame can be split three ways: one to my friend who didn't give me the cards directly, Cache for accidentally losing them, and myself for forgetting to retrieve them. I hold no grudges towards the other parties in this matter. I just want the truth.

I've talked with Collector's Cache for the past few weeks in order to get this resolved, and in the process, I've heard many conflicting stories. Collector's Cache has worked to try and find the lost cards, which I greatly appreciated, and as of now have offered me some form of compensation (which I'm also grateful for). The incident, in my opinion, was almost resolved...until this post came up. Before it was posted, I asked Omastar to not post anything on a public forum. This isn't something the general player base needs to know about, and plus, I hate unnecessary conflict. It seems, however, Omastar didn't think about the consequences this post could create or my feelings towards the matter. I'm disappointed in how this post has created chaos and is completely inaccurate. Cache didn't steal or intentionally sell my cards and I most certainly don't value those cards at 50 dollars (4 smeargle range from 5-7 each/about 21-28 dollars). The cards just became misplaced during the busy states most likely, an accident, but not intentional.

I hope that by stating my opinion, this argument will cool off and no more damage will be done.

And with that I'm closing this thread.