Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

DA RULES ... And How to Become A Verified Seller, All SALES MUST LIST PRICE!!!

One of the mods may want to change the title of this subforum to something like "Pokegym Auction & Sale House" because I've noticed people are still posting straight sales in the trade forum...probably haven't bothered coming here to read this because it only says auction.
 
There should not be any sales in the trade forum at this point at all. If anyone finds a sale thread, the mods will be happy to look into moving appropriate sales to the proper sub-forum, or deleting those brought to our attention if they don't fit the conditions to sell/auction. Please bring these to our attention by reporting the lead post in the thread. Thanks.
 
I have a question.

I am looking to make an auction. I have almost 50 refs and have traded with a couple of mods. I need to get money for prereleases since I do not have any at this time. The only problem is, I have not been a member for a year yet. I think I joined like May 20th last year, I checked like a week ago when they made these new rules so I dont really remember. Is there anyway I can have my auction or someone run the auction for me? I really would like to get some money for prereleases. Thanks for all your help!

Kim
 
Kemony said:
I have a question.

I am looking to make an auction. I have almost 50 refs and have traded with a couple of mods. I need to get money for prereleases since I do not have any at this time. The only problem is, I have not been a member for a year yet. I think I joined like May 20th last year, I checked like a week ago when they made these new rules so I dont really remember. Is there anyway I can have my auction or someone run the auction for me? I really would like to get some money for prereleases. Thanks for all your help!

Kim
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Unfortunaltey Kemony if we let you then we would have to let everyone and that would defeat the pupose of the rule. So until 1 yr of being a member comes we will not be able to allow you to have auctions.
 
Doesn't letting someone run an auction for another person that doesn't meet the rules also defeat the purpose of having those rules?
 
I also think that allowing members who do not meet the requirements for selling/auctioning, to have a trade/sell combo thread in the trade forum defeats having these new rules as well...

The rules were obviously set for a reason. Allowing people to bypass them just because they are both trading and selling is pointless. Drew was the one who originally asked about having a combo thread rather than having to separate posts for the same items that he wanted to both trade and sell...and was told yes because he has more-than-met the requirements. However, now other members who have not met them are trying to do the same thing.
 
OLD_SCHOOL_PLAYER said:
Would I be able to have an auction? Link to my refs are in signature.
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You Joined 05/28/2006

You are eligible for auctions on 05/28/2007

todays date as I post 05/05/2007

So you have 23 days to wait until you are eligible to hold your own auctions as per the rules.:thumb:

pokemonmike
 
And remember OSP, you have to have 20 VERIFIABLE REFERENCES as well as per the rules. As in .... your traders also have to have you as a reference on their posts on the Good/Bad trader thread as well, to show us that they valued your trade as much as you did. If that can be done, then when your year is up, then we're willing to let you have an auction. This is for the protection of the individual users. We're not trying to single anyone out, or stop anyone from having an auction/sale thread. I wish everyone here could have one. It would make my job so much easier. But we have to have to have a set standard so people are protected.
 
evil psyduck said:
Doesn't letting someone run an auction for another person that doesn't meet the rules also defeat the purpose of having those rules?
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Has there been any decision on this yet?

Also if someone lists there refs and the people they have traded with do not put that person on their refs list then that prevents said person from being able to sell or auction. That does not seem right. There should be some way to require that if you trade here then part of the deal is that you must leave a ref for the person you traded with. Why penalize someone because the person they traded with is to lazy to leave them a ref?
 
Regarding selling something for someone else:

A person can sell or auction whatever they want under their own name.
Where they got that item and what they do with the money they receive for it is their own business.
So, if John has permission to post auctions and Peter does not, Peter can ask John to auction his Charizard * for him
However, it is John's auction. The Charizard * is being auctioned by John. It is John's responsibility to get the Charizard * to whoever the winner is.
There is no "well, I was selling it for Peter, so I don't know when he's sending the card", It's not the buyer's concern where the card came from or who John is passing money on to.

So, John will post:
"I have a Charizard* for auction, bidding starts at $5.00 (or whatever)" and that's it.
John should not be posting "I'm selling this for Peter".
Not our concern. John's rep is being depended on and is the rep that is on the line.
 
evil psyduck said:
Why penalize someone because the person they traded with is to lazy to leave them a ref?
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And why "reward" someone who just lists a bunch of people? Refs are a two way street, if you have successfully traded with someone and reffed them, they should be reffing you too.
 
I guess the argument would be that using the good/bad trader thread as the only place to do a confirmed checkup isn't 100% foolproof as it seems to be. I tend to think of the thread currently as a bit "messy" at the moment. I see traders updating refs on their trade posts more often than on the good/bad trader list.

I would only have 34 out of my 67 refs as true two ways then since a good 10-15 of them haven't come back to gym anymore* and another 20 or so haven't updated in anywhere from 6 months - 2 years. (* older traders who quit the game, etc.)

In the end using a two way ref system in it's current state isn't perfect yet and would suggest holding off on that two-way specific rule for a while until more has been done to let traders know about this change (I only found out about it today). I find it kinda odd that someone with 70 refs doesn't get enough feedback to make a auction yet about half of mine did and I could run one.

I guess I'm just rambling now so I'll stop. :redface:
 
BJJ763 said:
And why "reward" someone who just lists a bunch of people? Refs are a two way street, if you have successfully traded with someone and reffed them, they should be reffing you too.
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I agree they should ref you too but there is nothing you can do to force them to. If they don't are you allowed to have them in your refs and say that they refuse to leave you a ref? People depend on refs to show how trust worthy they are and to decide who sends first in a trade.

A good example is kirstin with 70 some refs listed but because the people he has traded with are to lazy to put him as a ref he can not have a auction forum. That means he is being penalized because the people he has traded with won't leave him a ref. Is that fair?

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PokePop said:
Regarding selling something for someone else:

A person can sell or auction whatever they want under their own name.
Where they got that item and what they do with the money they receive for it is their own business.
So, if John has permission to post auctions and Peter does not, Peter can ask John to auction his Charizard * for him
However, it is John's auction. The Charizard * is being auctioned by John. It is John's responsibility to get the Charizard * to whoever the winner is.
There is no "well, I was selling it for Peter, so I don't know when he's sending the card", It's not the buyer's concern where the card came from or who John is passing money on to.

So, John will post:
"I have a Charizard* for auction, bidding starts at $5.00 (or whatever)" and that's it.
John should not be posting "I'm selling this for Peter".
Not our concern. John's rep is being depended on and is the rep that is on the line.
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And that is just a way for someone to get around the rules.
 
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evil psyduck said:
People depend on refs to show how trust worthy they are and to decide who sends first in a trade.

A good example is kirstin with 70 some refs listed but because the people he has traded with are to lazy to put him as a ref he can not have a auction forum. That means he is being penalized because the people he has traded with won't leave him a ref. Is that fair?


And that is just a way for someone to get around the rules.
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I agree. People do depend upon those to see how reliable you are, but it doesn't mean anything if you can't prove it does it now?

Do you know something about Kirstin that I don't know about? He has a thread here on the PASH.

Not really. You don't get around the rules really since the person who puts up the item has the responsibility to get the item to the recipient. He/she must deliver or they won't be welcome here on the PASH. It's part of the rules that they must keep their good refs for at least a year before the current sale/auction. If not, they'll be waiting a year until the next one. It's a weighty responsibility. So I wouldn't be too quick to take the responsibility for another person that you don't trust 100%. I'd keep that in mind.
 
For the record...I just checked the G/B trader list. According to that I have "78" refs. My count is at 179. So while I am positive (I keep records of my trades/addresses) that I have these 179 good refs, the system puts me at a loss of over 100!
 
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