Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Dragon cards that will have the most impact

Ampharos EX is BY FAR the best card in the set IMO. 1 Weakness, Resistance to Metal, 150HP, good attack.

Muk EX is toal garbage, 'nuff said.

Kingdra EX is a good card, but still somewhat slow and no god-like Seadra to Genetic Memory, but it is still a good card and will be played. Contender or Pretender? Only time will tell....

Mr.Brinkeys or whatever the Scoop up card is: This card will be used frequently and is very good.

TV Reporter: A good card and has a lot of combo potential. Will be used often.

Golem EX: Overhyped by many and overall is Garbage.

Raquaza EX: Decent to Good, but not great by any stretch of the imagination. I see it MAYBE being teched in Blazy, but Exeggcutor is already good enough, which also shuts out Magcargo's chances in that deck, but with No entei, magcargo is a pretender.

To sum things up, i don't think this set will have a HUGE impact on the top contenders which are (in no particular order):
Gardevoir/Gardy EX
Blaziken/Exeggcutor
Sceptile TeCh
Scizor/Azu/Furret
and now IMO a top 5 deck:
Amphy Ex/Woobers TecH
 
I dont think scizor is that large anymore just because of amphy. I mean it didnt have the peachiest matchups vs blaziken or gardy before but it could take them down like the rest but now with amphy out it just seems to CRUSH the deck. I expect to see a decline in its popularity.
 
Swampert/Gyarados will also be a big contender, especially with there being very few Lightning being played, and I'm not all that afraid of Amphy ex (power was useless before, so it should be now, and the attack IMO is subpar for an ex-type, dealing either 80 or 140 to my guys, which I can just shrug off with one or 2 trainers or tools)
 
Amphy is a good deck for sure, but not enough to stop Blaziken from being a top deck. I don't see Blaziken losing to Amphy every game and it shouldn't be as lopsided as you think. Saying Sceptile isn't a good deck was a stupid statement BTW, you obviously haven't seen one played well.

What is with the OBSESSION of Swampert on this board? It is not a conteder. PERIOD. Ampharos would crush it. Saying Ampharos EX doesn't have a good attack for an EX pokemon is foolish, i mean auto 40 for LCC, chance for para or 70, splashable, 150HP. Just leave please.

Monkeyman, you have a good point about Scizor losing popularity. So since you seem to be one of the few that knows what they are talking about, what do you think the top decks are/will be.
 
first off I dont see HOW blaziken cant contend with amphy. I mean its not like blaziken cant oralce delcatty up switch then get some decent flips with eggy. granted Im not saying its a peachy match up but it doesnt seem horrible at all. Now scizor I see the top decks looking like this

Tier 1
Blaziken/Eggy
Gardevoir
Amphy EX
Sceptile (have never played the deck and only against it so cant say much about it except that I KNOW its good.)

Tier 2
Kingdra EX
Swampert things
Scizor/aggron ex with back up
Pluff

Tier 3
This is so low it doesnt matter ;\

Also some side notes on drafting this set

1. avoid fighting like the plague

2. salamance line is the best to draft because the basic, stage 1, and stage 2 are all GREAT so no matter how many you get of the line they are great supporters in the deck. Unfortunetly these cards can be overdrafted so the other route you go is blue/green with treecko grovyle, wurmple, seadra, and nincanda.

3. Crawdunt line should not be underestimated and grab them asap if you see them because the Corpish are in vast amounts

4. grabbing TV reporter and Mr. Briney's Compassion almost first pick everytime obviously

5. spoink is everywhere and has the FUNNIEST name ever. =P
 
I agree 100% with everything you said Monkey, and i think we are on the same page about the format. Do you think this format will be used for the tourney series if we EVER get one guys? By the looks of how things are going, we could have 3 more sets out by then. *rolls eyes*
 
Rainbow Burn Flygon is already having a big impact at my tourney... Along with Muk ex!!! I COMPLETELY dissagree with what Young John said about Muk ex! IT RULES ALL!!! A friend of mine is runing it with Roselia and it is truely awsome! Don't underestimate the power of... (Dramatic Music Starts) THE BLOB!!!
 
I'd say with the Spoink, it's Bounce attack. Well there would be a little problem if Bounce returns Spoink to the bench; when someone uses char or poison when it's ability is used. 10 Damage; and splashable to boot.
 
Edit:That was not polite to do.Disagree all you want but don`t belittle people and the state they live in.Florida is as good as any other state.No state is the best.-`Sensei
 
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Scizor said:
SwampertEX your comments are just horrendous. Flygon is decent, but Muk is crap. Swampert for that matter is a tier 2 deck, as Levi already wisely pointed out. You can disagree all you guys want, but your little hometown tournaments don't prove anything, besides Florida has NEVER been a very good state for Pokemon. California, Illinois, Ohio, New York, and others are better and have always put out some great players. Your guys' posts are laughable at best and i'll just stop there.
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I'm sorry but what you just said was very stereotypical and down right rude. Everyone has rights to their own opinion. It is disrespectful to put down someone for having unique and inventive ideas about the game. In SwampertEX's defense, although I would never try this, you could use Muk EX as a form of control in the game. What I mean is that now you can have a deck with other Poke Power cards in addition to Muk EX and either bench it or make it active to manipulate what powers are active in the game. Although its not a suggested way to play a deck due to the situational need for certain cards it is a way to play none the less. Next time be more considerate of other people's ideas and opinions, why else are you posting on a message board unless you want to hear other people's opinions?
 
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its not control, it has to be active therefore it would be some retarded aggro/control deck. irregardlesss the only reason to USE it would be stop blaziken but it cant even do that =( also WA has good players =P
 
Swampert isn't even tier 2 in my book... its a bit better with Briney, as Venusaur gets a bit better with briney too, but still.... its attack is just not good enough for this. 10 to a 4 metaled aggron? yeah, that's cool.

As for top decks, I still think Aggron/Lord/Furret is good. Its still been doing great for me. Ampy ex is definitely broken. The attack is broken, the power is just good. This shoulda been made to 4 energy... and even then he'd still be broken.

Kingdra ex is broken. You guys think this can be worked in with Hariyama? If it can, I think it can work alriht. 1 for 40 or 1 for 30 to ANYONE... thats just nice.

Its really really hard to tell the top decks in all honesty. Almost every ex has an impact here... Kingdra, Cargo, AMPY DEFINITELY, and maybe Rayquazza. Really, Muk ex is NOT good guys.... its not.

Flygon with Magneton will be a force, just because you can easily get like 15 energy on the board without taking that stupid 20 dmg like Gardevoir. Then Magneton is like "what's up?" for 2 energy and just wipes the floor. plus, Flygon has nice resistances.

Monkey: I dunno... Pluff? I love pluff and all, but its just NOT enough damage. Nothing is really weak to it anymore either. I guess its cool against Ampharos just because you can escape that nasty paralysis but other than that... eh.

Machamp from SK.... if we see a decline in Gardy, this can become big. It avg ko's Ampy, has 120hp (right?) and has that 0wnage first attack. OH AND THE BODY is awesome now. The whole line is solid too. Another SK guy that can be awesome... Beedrill. Briney really makes this deck happen.

Look at all the stuff that can work... geezus. Have we EVER seen so much stuff viable?

Kingdra ex
Ampy ex
Aggron ex/Furret/Lord
Blaze/eggs
Gardevoir/Gardy ex
Scizor (I think its speed can win it some)
Flygon/Magneton
Sceptile/tech
Beedrill
Dragonite ex (nobdoy sees this as working? HOW?)
Omastar
Tops ex/Xatu (its still alright just cuz of buried fossil)

There's tons more I'm sure. Dragon is gonna have a huge effect, I think. Briney, TV reporter, Ampy, Cargo, Kingdra, Dragonite... POSSIBLY Salamence, Ninjask (just cuz of Shedinja I think this can work), and other shizzle.

Happy gaming folks... is anyone else anticipating any constructed Qualifiers like I am?
 
Yeah Monkey sorry about forgetting your state :p Anyway there are a lot of VIABLE decks, i was just voicing my opinion and some of the knowledgable players backed me up.

Nikepk- Nice list there and i hope you are right about the Qualifiers, again i am STILL waiting for a Constructed Deck type tournament series from Nintendo. Pre-Releases are great, but they aren't when you get a max of a box, no type of invite to something major, are regional, and someone like me has to drive 4 hours for one. Anyway happy gaming everyone and if we EVER get a tourament tour series we will find out what the top decks are.
 
well hey a pluff beat my gardy cause of flips so you gotta give them some credit and you used the skyridge starmie to beat scizor's and blazikens. the deck wasnt horrible and with some decent flips it can win but I was just scrounging for some decks to add to tier 2 list because frankly if its not tier 1 or cant beat the tier 1 its crap. so basically ignore my tier 2 list I havent tested any of them other then scizor. your list is good but I stilll dont know about beedrill it seems great with britneys, ancient ruins, and lure ball what not but Im still not sure on how well it can do, I mean it wasnt good enough before it might not be now. Now I have to completely agree about 2 decks you said that nobody talked about and I am surprised nobody mentioned them.

Dragonite ex and Flygon Magnemite, flygon magnemite seemed like a great deck where you could lady outing energy out and just drop it all over the place and swarm with magnemites doing 80 but it would seem like a hard setup to get and doesnt seem practically real in the end to me. but dragonite ex seems SOOOO good. With some strength charms in the deck you can basically kill any ex poke in 2 hits or ohko those retarded eggys and you have the BEST healing in the format! I mean 4 nurse come on ;\ plus gardy has no extra damage to do to you it seems just like a GREAT deck and actually might be a solution to the format as the field is now.

the last 2 you mention are just awful decks and arent playable to me anymore but its your opinion.
 
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Actually SwampertEX is right about Muk EX. The "friend" he mentioned is Heidi Craig, who anyone who has ever been to a major tournament knows, is one of the top players in the game. And I've seen her get Muk EX doing 90 damage turn 2 against any deck with the Roselia combo.
 
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Flygon/something decks are showing up all over our local leagues. Let me personally add this card to my own list of top dragaon cards:

- Flygon - paired with Magneton and just about anything else that needs lots of energy. In fact, I've seen a Flygon/MukEX deck that actually played EXTREMELY well.

- TV Reporters - it's replacing Juggler in lots of Blaziken decks I've seen because you DON'T have to have energy in your hand to use it, but you can still discard an energy if you get one.
 
I wouldn't put pluff in tier 1 either simply because it's too flippy. But it actually has decent matchups against blaziken and godevoir. Blaziken decks have problems because they would have to waste energy on their exeggutor, and a decent water stage 1 can take out blaziken easily. Godevoir ex has weakness, and regular godevoir can't do enough damage to ko the jumpluff.
 
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I wouldn't put pluff in tier 1 either simply because it's too flippy. But it actually has decent matchups against blaziken and godevoir. Blaziken decks have problems because they would have to waste energy on their exeggutor, and a decent water stage 1 can take out blaziken easily. Godevoir ex has weakness, and regular godevoir can't do enough damage to ko the jumpluff.
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They can just attack with Blaziken and let a blaze go down... it shouldn't hurt it THAT much. I don't see why everyone loves Starmie so much, it just isn't that awesome anymore. Not a whole lot of people play Scizor anymore.

Anyway. I think Muk ex is nice if you get it turn 2 and start poisoning crap... but I mean after that... it only has 100hp. Stuff with only 100 hp just doens't seem to work that well as a main attacker. I've tried Raichu ex a million times and it just won't work because of that. Muk doesnt' have to discard or anything, but he also doesn't do 120 dmg with its attack =|

I agree about the Dragonite ex thing. Swanton made a test deck a while back with it and Aero ex to prevent the beast from being Crystal Shard'd, which is an awesome idea. 70+ Charm is really nice, and you can also risk the 120 dmg attack just because you can Nurse FOUR times. Really nice.

About tops and Omastar. maybe not tops so much, but why doesn't Omastar work?
 
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Anyway. I think Muk ex is nice if you get it turn 2 and start poisoning crap... but I mean after that... it only has 100hp. Stuff with only 100 hp just doens't seem to work that well as a main attacker. I've tried Raichu ex a million times and it just won't work because of that. Muk doesnt' have to discard or anything, but he also doesn't do 120 dmg with its attack
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Fair enough, but for now Gardevoir/EX is still the top deck in the format, and 90 damage is enough to OHKO Gardy EX with weakness. And once its active, it shuts down Blaziken's "Firestarter" power which throws a huge monkey wrench into Blaziken and Delcatty's deck strategy. My point is don't call it Garbage when it has alot of potential.
 
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