Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Espeon

dialga master said:
IDK how you have room for two cards in zeel.... Let alone 3 in dakrai.
Should be playing something that helps against other deck too..
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Hmmm, are you running Accelgore, bro?


In regards to the Mew/Swanna matchup, Mew is so slow that you'll usually be up 3-4 prizes before they lock. If they're wasting a turn to KO your Espeon, they're breaking the lock, and possibly allowing you to kill Oddish. Oddish kill+N is GG in that situation, and a lot of Mews don't even run Catcher.
 
I think I said in this thread (or another thread) that Accelgor is a personal favorite of mine, so you really don't need any silly "in before" statement, haha. Also, I couldn't care less what seniors use, or even what other masters use (although I question how confident KP was when he said, "I know 32 seniors who will use Espeon! "). And two cards have an extraordinary effect on consistency! That's the difference between 12 and 14 draw cards, more Catchers, pluspowers, Mewtwos, Darkrais, etc. Space may not necessarily be "tight" per se, but it does come at a premium.

You can choose to ignore what I say and take my comments as bias - that's perfectly fine. In the end, though, you have to make deck decisions on your own: to ignore or not be aware of the most important aspects of decks (i.e., the importance of space) does a huge disservice to your chances at Nationals.
 
dialga master said:
IDK how you have room for two cards in zeel.... Let alone 3 in dakrai.
Should be playing something that helps against other deck too.. I don't think many people will be running status but w/e..
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Dialga, 2 spots is nothing and its easily worth it to autowin multiple matchups.
 
Cyrus said:
I think I said in this thread (or another thread) that Accelgor is a personal favorite of mine, so you really don't need any silly "in before" statement, haha. Also, I couldn't care less what seniors use, or even what other masters use (although I question how confident KP was when he said, "I know 32 seniors who will use Espeon!")..
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I realize you could care less. I was talking to the OP. When did that comment become directed at you?

Actually, I have talked to roughly 55ish in the past 3 days. 31 were likely playing espy. Don't question without knowing :thumb:
 
And 2 spots is significant, that's certain. It's definitely a consistency cutter, but is it worth it to basically autowin a deck gaining momentum? That's up to the player.

If this sheds any light on my opinion, I likely won't play Espeon due to space. It'll be a meta call

Hint:It doesn't autowin any acelegor variations that include Kingdra or Chamdelure.
 
It wasn't targeted towards me - it was just a silly thing to claim, 'cause you know they won't all be playing it! Don't assume without knowing, and you can't know anything until the big day actually rolls around. :)
 
Cyrus said:
It wasn't targeted towards me - it was just a silly thing to claim, 'cause you know they won't all be playing it! Don't assume without knowing, and you can't know anything until the big day actually rolls around. :)
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Clearly :wink:

I know what I'm dealing with talking to said people. Doesn't mean I can't contribute to the "situation".
 
Oh, you can certainly contribute. However, your contribution is a speculation about a limited group (called a "sample"), so it should be viewed skeptically. All I'm trying to say is that those Espeons aren't in there until the deck list is submitted.

(That said, it's good news for archetypal players if their Zeels/Terrakion/CMT/Darkrai opponents are splashing in a card line that has zero use.)
 
Cyrus said:
Oh, you can certainly contribute. However, your contribution is a speculation about a limited group (called a "sample"), so it should be viewed skeptically. All I'm trying to say is that those Espeons aren't in there until the deck list is submitted.

(That said, it's good news for archetypal players if their Zeels/Terrakion/CMT/Darkrai opponents are splashing in a card line that has zero use.)
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Definitely. I didn't dispute skepticism as being a good idea in viewing my post. Everything (including every single post in this thread sugguesting Espy) should be viewed skeptically.
 
I'm not sure Espeon/Lanturn Prime is BDIF. It certaintly is a silly SD. I mean, dealing 4 damage while healing 4 from yourself is ok, preventing statuses is good and the type coverage is awesome(Lightning, Water, and Psy), but the pokes are too fragile in this big basic format to handle things that arent Accelgor, vVv, GroudonEX or Tyram consistently.
 
If you are playing Espeon and you wait until vileplume is in play then it is an autowin. They can't catcher your espeon if they are trainer locked. Nobody is going to be dumb enough to play the Espeon down until Vileplume is down. If you are worried about starting with Eevee and having it get KOed then put 1 flower shop lady in. This hasn't ever been a problem for me though. Most VVV don't/can't afford too many or any catchers so it's nbd.
 
honchvire said:
I'm not sure Espeon/Lanturn Prime is BDIF. It certaintly is a silly SD. I mean, dealing 4 damage while healing 4 from yourself is ok, preventing statuses is good and the type coverage is awesome(Lightning, Water, and Psy), but the pokes are too fragile in this big basic format to handle things that arent Accelgor, vVv, GroudonEX or Tyram consistently.
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I do hope you're just being extra-sarcastic. I was entirely joking.
 
Let's just be real, at this point, there is SUCH a crazed fear of playing a status deck, that most people ARE going to be teching for something that doesn't even comprise 5% of the top cut statistics (as far as battle roads are concerned), and something that couldn't even make it out of the first round of the top cut in the French nationals, so let's all just admit that playing a status lock deck at this point is a really really bad decision.
 
DonphanAtoZ said:
It's still worth teching for something that's x-0'd multiple nationals.
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Wouldn't it be better worth your time to tech for Darkrai, something that's dominated our Battle Roads and most of the international National Championships (actually being the winning deck of that French tournament that created the wide spread ice cream panic.)

I don't think Vanilluxe is a threat to win the tournament at all. Accelgor is solid, but it's going to be played in such small numbers and it's a Vileplume deck, so it has a good chance of just not performing for one match in the tournament getting that player knocked out, and it also has major time issues.

Why tech for 2% of the field and not tech for something that's going to be 30% of the field?
 
I think it's going to be more than 2% of the field, not to mention you'll see a lot of them at the higher tables.
 
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