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Congratulations to everyone who made it, but: IMO this didn't work. All the players who made it are truly good players anyway, and are of course good enough for Worlds, but many didn't make it just because they didn't work the system well enough. It wasn't just your abilities as a player that counted in this ranking list. :(

BTW: Anybody noticed how Axel Sjilov, with an incredibly high ranking, went from 2nd place ranking-wise to 6th place ranking-wise tonight? That's just ridiculous. =\
 
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Congratulations to everyone who made it!

but personally I'm wery glad that the Sweden players has not taked part this ranking race.

There is very few players that travel around which can also be seen in the ranking (naturally you can also draw that conclusion that the swedish players aren't good enough, my guess is that the true is somewhere in between).
 
2 Invites to France
2 Invites to Belgium
2 Invites to Norway
4 Invites to Denmark
6 Invites to Finland


conclusion => best players are not the ones that got the invites.

where is NL (best pokemon-european country) ??????????????

this is so unfunny that is funny again!!!!

LOL!

great job to all the winners of the trips!

you played the rules very well. (and we stay at home playing the game ;) )


it woulb great to know how many of the players with trip have a TO parent ;)
 
Gatsu said:
it would great to know how many of the players with trip have a TO parent ;)
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and it would be great to know how many of those TO asked opponents to concede to their daughter (or son) due to ranking reasons during tournament they were judging............
 
Is it truly announced? Because, I know that denmark has one tournament pending, but I´ve also understood that the ranking list well be locked after this perticular day, if I am right. Especially I am thinking of Master ratings, because the 4. the 5. and 6. player in the rankings are all pretty close to eachother, and cause the tournament bending is in Denmark, it can change the situation dramatically.

I´m with gatsu. I think that junior age group players aren´t old enough to do their decisions themselves, so I think U should ask who from winners especially in juniors aren´t a child of a TO.
 
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BTW: Anybody noticed how Axel Sjilov, with an incredibly high ranking, went from 2nd place ranking-wise to 6th place ranking-wise tonight? That's just ridiculous. =\
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Yes, I think that BR after National was the worst thing ever seen...
I think that many players was there with deck, damage counter, dice, paper and pen!
It's very easy for all, invite players to concede to gain rating points for Kona.....
However, this year was gone, from my view point I don't think this system can go ahead; I hope next year PUI put the ELO system in a waste paper basket.
The system has createn false results, drops, players that have no pride to play in own National, and so on.
I also complain about the fact that Italian or Dutch or whatever player has never faced a Finnish, Norwegian or whatever player to say.... yes.... this player is better than other...
The system, at least in Europe, must be changed. I hope in one or two EC after Nationals to get Invite+trips to Worlds 2008.
If this year a EC was run with the actual 6-6-4 slots.. I don't think (with all my respect) that these players could get invite+trips.
The ELO system encourage to drop or not to play for players with high ranking because is strongly penalizying.
The better system is like F1 or MotoGP points where players don't lose points....but final decision is from PUI....
 
I faced Laetitia and i beated her.
Adrien Delambre was beaten 2 times in a row by Italians.

But this is not the point....there are players who can lose all their points and then re-gain all them in a few BRs.
If my brother would have had a single Battle Road after Nats he would have easily won...while in other countries at least 5-6 BRs with the result of X-0 were occurred to gain the trip...
 
Tego said:
Congratulations to everyone who made it, but: IMO this didn't work. All the players who made it are truly good players anyway, and are of course good enough for Worlds, but many didn't make it just because they didn't work the system well enough. It wasn't just your abilities as a player that counted in this ranking list. :(
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Well said. The invites in the SR and MA division went to good players I'm sure, but they went to good players in a playing environment with little competition, big tournaments, and/or ways of 'working the system'.

In the Netherlands we have so many good Senior players, who face each other at every single tournament where the Senior division is really small. They keep taking each other's points, because in reality, all their games are 50/50. It's too difficult then to get a 2000 rating. In Finland they have good Seniors I'm sure, but they don't face each other every single game, because they have tournaments with 5 rounds, top 4 every time.

European countries just differ too much to conclude that these final trip winners are indeed the best players. Not taking a shot at Laetitia, cos I know her, and she's a good player. But she shot up through the rankings like whoa with a father as a TO of a handful of late BRs in France, with little competition. And all these countries with BRs after Nationals like Denmark and Finland and Norway. It would be really interesting to see how many points all the National champions lost after their Nats!

All in all, a ranking system in Europe might be the only way at the moment to give Europe more invites, I don't know. But at this rate, it's just not working.

The first thing that needs to go is BRs after Nats >< You play a Nats, you're done for the season.
 
Just a reply to those who say EC would give other finalists than Ratings.
Sure, but from my Norwegian view, I can say that our top 3 Senior players are:

Khanh
Axel
Myself

, with me somewhat lower than them(Yes, even though I have won nats this year)

Both Axel and Khanh has made T32 in Worlds previous years, and are worthy candidates.

When it comes to the other Senior qualifiers: I have never played against any of the finnish players, sorry

And Peter Lind: He attended one of our CC's, and both Axel and Khanh sweeped him. I don't remember if I faced him though


But clearly, Nationals as last tournament of the year is a good move.

And it's not only in Netherlands the good players face each other every time.
I face Khanh and Axel every tourney, and I KNOW the finns face each other when they are all attending.


--Just my 5 kroner

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I made it by 4 points lol.
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You're soo cool man
 
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Not taking a shot at Laetitia, cos I know her, and she's a good player. But she shot up through the rankings like whoa with a father as a TO of a handful of late BRs in France, with little competition.
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... and other things some people said in the last posts ...


Events were open in France (except one, a couple of months ago).
We've run the European Challenge in May where all the European players had the opportunity to compete and take points.
Who was at these events ?
Where were you Anna, Gatsu, Andceo, all the players from Holland (Arco and Lia's family were at the PEC and they did really well), where were all the 'best European players' ?
Italians had organized BR on that week end ... afraid to lose some points ? :biggrin:

Where were the Italian players when they had the opportunity to play a Regional in Les Issambres and a BR in Nice on the same week-end ? At home, but there were points to win ... or lose.

A handful of late BR ? Oh yes, sooooo many BR after the National in France. TWO ! :rolleyes:
And unfortunately, 3 players from Germany came to Amiens on Saturday but decided to leave before the start of the event. We had too many preregistered players, and at the start of the event they could have played with us. Sorry guys, I'd have really liked that you played the event.

BR after Nationals ? With Nationals played long after the deadline in Italy and especially Holland, do you really believe you have to complain ?
If your countries had respected the deadline for Nationals, the season would have been finished a long time ago ... or every country would have run their National last week end with a lot of BR BEFORE the National :lol:

Instead of complaining and accusing like Anna does, why haven't we seen you at the PEC in Paris or at 1 or 2 BR last week-end ? Sure, National in Holland on Sunday, but Saturday ?

Little competition Anna ? Sorry, but let me laugh.
If there was so little competition in France, why have we seen you only once, and which was your result ?

Sure the system is not perfect, and I may understand your frustration for not beeing qualified, but please remain correct and respect the players, TO's and people involved in the game.
Finland has not happened everywhere in Europe.
If you may prove that things have been done uncorrectly, please say them. Otherwise, please stop with accusations and allusions.
 
marstio said:
I love this guy ^^:thumb:
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still posting, cheater? LOL! :biggrin: (p.s. you still have to reply to my last PM) :thumb:



Micheal: if you pay airplane ticket for me and my girlfriend (i have to stay with here at least two weekends per month since she deserves it more than a card game) i'll be glad to come to ALL tournaments in France.
We had to announce our BR early in semptember, so no BR just to gain points.

Andceo wanted to come to Paris but airticket is 500euro (around 600$) and people (usually) has a life.

I don't know how is competition in France since i have been there only twice, but if someone goes undefeated in 5-6 tournaments using always the same deck, and nobody has a counter for it, well, something is wrong......


btw, nobody accused you.... :confused:
have you something needed to be hidden?!?!? :eek:
 
There is only one TO who will get no respect from me. He deserves none and at the top of the post two above this one he was called exactly what he is. People have had bans from pokemon for less then what he did in my opinion. As a TO he should be held to a higher degree of responsibility.
 
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