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  1. helghast101

    helghast101 New Member

    How are it's match-ups vs magmortar?
    Why is it played so much?

    what do you all think about this type of deck...

    IMO I don't like the deck because of its price, overplayed, etc.
  2. DarthPika

    DarthPika New Member

    Is it over played and over powered? Yes.

    A good G&G list with a skilled player can make the matchup against Magmortar 50/50 or better.
  3. mrdraz07

    mrdraz07 New Member

    The thing that makes GG so good is the flexible game plan. Good GG players can use this to their advantage, while bad GG players don't know where or how to start.

    Magmortar is pretty rough because of it's anti-Gallade strategy (sac 3-4 basics while loading up a big 'mortar), but like DarthPika said, a good player can pull out a win.
  4. fchangus2

    fchangus2 New Member

    Magmortar beats standard G&G lists; however, it's possible for G&G to tech specifically for Magmortar to turn it the other way around...
  5. Ignatious

    Ignatious New Member

    G&G vs Mag: 40-60
    G&G vs Blissey: 90-10
    G&G vs Hurricane:70-30
    G&G vs Banett: 55-45

    With techs, however:

    G&G vs Mag: 60-40
    G&G vs Blissey: 90-10
    G&G vs Hurricane: 70-30
    G&G vs Banett: 50-50

    This is just a rough estamate, though. Not claiming it to be 100% correct.
  6. Rambo1000

    Rambo1000 New Member


    mag vs. gg is 60/40 for mag no matter what lists or techs they are playing. in fact, the only gg list i've ever tested against plays battle frontier, mew*, AND lati-lock, and mag still wins every game.
  7. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    You have no idea of how wrong you are.
  8. Spoinxx

    Spoinxx New Member

    neither do u apparantly

    mayn come on GG is fightin type and blissey is a big fat piece of... colorless pokemon

    ya y'all can do that the math i hope
    if not datz ok sometimes i cant do the math either im prtetty bad at it
  9. lolzorz

    lolzorz New Member

    LOL....your sig....the 2 highlighted words...LOL.
  10. fchangus2

    fchangus2 New Member

    there are way better techs for G&G against Mag than BF, Mew*, or Lati-lock. The fact that you've only tested against one gg list tells me that you can't possibly say that Mag is 60/40 irrespective of the tech/list. That's just blind ignorance.
  11. lolzorz

    lolzorz New Member

    care to share some of these "better techs"?
  12. fchangus2

    fchangus2 New Member

    no. But I think since there are so many great players out in Florida and everyone will be expecting Zach to play Mag, he will find out about some of those better techs at FL states.
  13. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    Ever heard of Holon Energy FF and Fire Energy?
  14. lolzorz

    lolzorz New Member

    honestly, magmortar isnt a deck you should tech against.
    its just that kind of deck that can actually deal with it being teched against.
    so i think if zach plays mag, then he has a really good chance of t8.(unless he get's forrest prizes)
  15. Ra2xse

    Ra2xse New Member

    Can Magmortar really win by sac 3-4 basiks? Gallade use 1 Sonic Blade to the ''big Magmortar'' and then comes Gardevoir Lv.X/Gallllade to take it down.
  16. lolzorz

    lolzorz New Member

    your still 2shotting me, and i can do the same.
    do you want to trade a stage 2 for a stage 1??
    i think not.
  17. Spoinxx

    Spoinxx New Member

    aight look yo, one of da big thingz bout g-lade is dat they can do dat one attack mayn where they use blade of sonics ya heard? anyway check it, GG can outplay you out of their beeeeeep ya heard but really what does you do versus G-vor Lv. X huh? yeah daz right...when everything is 130 y'all gonna lose think about it ima give yall some time to think...aight that was more than enough ya heard, so tell me yo response ima wait here
  18. Jaeger

    Jaeger New Member

    No offense but both of these stradgeys are not going to be very effictive.
  19. KAZUTO!!!

    KAZUTO!!! New Member

    Um... Blissey can deal with 130 HP Pokemon. Did you know that Blissey adds about 10-20 damage WITHOUT Boost, every turn? And do you REALLY want to KO a Blissey when they might then drop a Scramble and hit for 60 if it previously had no Energy? Plus, T2 Blissey outspeeds G&G, so they are going to have a Blissey up T2, so really, the matchup is like 70-30 or 65-35 in G&G's favour. And in G&G, everything is NOT 130 HP, ever heard of Gardevoir? Benched Starters? Unevolved Ralts? All those things don't have 130 HP, you can't expect to be set up completely when Gardevoir Lv.X goes Active. You can't expect to outspeed it, Holon FF stops Weakness, yeah. It is really 90-10 in G&G's favour.
  20. Rambo1000

    Rambo1000 New Member

    lol no one cares what i'm playing and no one will bother to tech against one person.

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