glitch in ratings?
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ryanvergel
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My first round isn't even showing up.
Matt Yuen
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here's a screen shot..
it was round 1 of Cali States, 176 Masters
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m7/trekiev/zero.jpg
it was round 1 of Cali States, 176 Masters
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m7/trekiev/zero.jpg
i like burdn of a day
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My stats doesn't even show the second states i went to, and it got reported and the people that i beat's ratings went down but mine stayed the same.
I can explain this, and as the events get larger it happens more often. Someone gets a POP ID wrong (it can be the player putting it down wrong at registration or data entry error). The number that is used is a legitimate number, but belongs to a player outside the age group you're playing in. Everything looks fine at the tournament because the local database has the correct name and age entered, but once the tournament is uploaded the name and age is pulled from the PUI database and oops, you're playing outside your age group.
To get everything corrected, the TO has to track down all those errors, and you can help them by letting them know which round you are showing that you played someone outside your age group. When the tournaments get huge like they are now, it is a real pain to track down all those errors. I have 6 in the Oregon State Championships that I'm working on fixing. It will all get corrected eventually though. Have patience.
BDS
To get everything corrected, the TO has to track down all those errors, and you can help them by letting them know which round you are showing that you played someone outside your age group. When the tournaments get huge like they are now, it is a real pain to track down all those errors. I have 6 in the Oregon State Championships that I'm working on fixing. It will all get corrected eventually though. Have patience.
BDS
so then gino's match is an error? every match must be worth some points, right?
Muffin Man
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So if you win states do you get extra points for that ?? not only off your win loss ratio
so like i end round nine with a win for states and im at 1784.23 will they give me more points for winning states or is it only off the win loss ratio during it
so like i end round nine with a win for states and im at 1784.23 will they give me more points for winning states or is it only off the win loss ratio during it
If the age groups were seperated, yes.
Whenever I load an event, I check the number of JR/SR/MA players that I show vs what shows on the POP website. If the numbers don't match, I know I have an error.
Of course, there could still be errors that just even out, but at least it's a heads up.
With a huge event, like BDS has, it's almost impossible to track down without players giving a heads up.
So, rule of thumb, check your record after an event and see if the matches make sense.
No. Ratings points are looked at match by match. There are more points at stake because States has a higher K-Value, but there is no "bonus" for your ranking within the event.
HurricaneWarty
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I think there's been a few issues with this, and it's more along the lines of what BDS was talking about. I know for Idaho states, my R5 match against Karl it showed his rating when we started the match at 1693, which was at least 100 points off and then showed me losing 0 points for losing. Today it was corrected, and Karl finally has his points he should have gained from Idaho and I am down the 12 or so I lost to him.
NoPoke
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To amplify what PokePop is advising .
- contact the TO (email is best!)
- provide the event id and name
- provide your name and POP ID
- the round that you believe has an incorrect opponent
Stop beating up on little kids Matt!:tongue:
Yeah, you should always gain points when winning, according to the K-value formula. For example, check out the 32-K example in the following POP document about ratings:
http://www.go-pokemon.com/op/tournaments/docs/2008-2009/Ratings_and_Rankings_FAQ.pdf
Even if you are 200 points above your opponent, you'll get 7.69 points.
Also, here's what the above document says about 0 rating points:
Yeah, you should always gain points when winning, according to the K-value formula. For example, check out the 32-K example in the following POP document about ratings:
http://www.go-pokemon.com/op/tournaments/docs/2008-2009/Ratings_and_Rankings_FAQ.pdf
Even if you are 200 points above your opponent, you'll get 7.69 points.
Also, here's what the above document says about 0 rating points:
POP Rating and Rankings FAQ said:
No, don't just wait. If you see zero point matches, ask questions.
With such large events, help the TO help you.
Alert them to the issue.
Bear in mind that it wasn't malicious and don't worry about who's "fault" it is.
Just give the info Nopoke outlines and help get it fixed.
HurricaneWarty
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Isn't there an e-mail address specifically for rankings issues? I was thinking it was [email protected] but I haven't been able to find anything on the organized play website to confirm this.
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