Sensei said:
Posted by jdb728
If a pregant women has a harder time doin' things then a handicapped person, then I'm sure they wouldn't have any trouble gettin' a temporary permit.
Some of them really should.Even though you may not realize it,some pregnant women have a harder time doing things like walking,normal day to day activities,etc.. then people given disability permits.Trust me,I have seen and known people who were able to receive disability permits that really didn`t need them.
Don't forget, I stand with the belief that you shouldn't get a permit if you don't "need" it, I'm not sayin' it's right for people to try to buse the system like that.
Sensei said:
I don't think it's "helping" that people don't like, I think it's the FACT that it's a forced niceness, for no reason other then givin' special privileges to people for their own choices(unlike givin' money to charities, where it's just a very nice thing to do, but your not required to).
It`s forced on you to not be able to park in one spot?Are you serious?You will cry and lament over the one spot?You will choose to ignore that a person who could use a little help would be appreciative that you let them park closer?It`s obvious that the few people disenting on this issue have never been pregnant and do not know what is like to be pregnant.I`d be willing to wager that your opinions would differ if you had been pregnant.
Well, while I may have never been pregnant, and probably never will be, my mother was pregnant with me, and my bro, and she said she thought it was ridiculous, yes, a women who was pregnant, TWICE, thinks this is ridiculous.
Sensei said:
I, and obviously some other people, think you're wrong to think that any body who makes a choice to do somethin' that could make some things a little harder for them to do, should get special treatment.
Well,you can think I`m wrong all you want.We have that right.But your argument about a "choice" is half baked at best.You are literally saying that having a child and giving birth is meaningless and unimportant.
I never said anything about "having a child and giving birth is meaningless and unimportant.", I know it's a miracle, but the point is, should we give special treatment to a select few when those select few have that condition purely because of the choice they made of their own free will?
Sensei said:
I could use a "little extra help" when I'm not feeling too well, does that mean I should get special treatment(such as closer parking spots)?
I agree with almost everything(if not everything) that UncleBob has posted here.
I don't understand why it's alright for a pregnant Women to get special treatment because of the choice that they made in the first place, meanwhile it's not ok for some average guy to get a "Sore Back" parking spot since he slouched for quite a while(I mean, both are self choices that make every day tasks a little harder)?
I also like the point Jeremy Badeaux brought up, (without anyway to enforce it)this does nothing more then penalize the nice guys.
Again,there is your "degradation" of having the miracle of a child(I hope you do realize that without pregnant women,all of the world would not be here right now...this includes YOU..). To quote BJJ:"Should we turn our collective backs on those whose choices put them at a disadvantage? Or should, we as a society, show compassion and try to help. Where do we draw the line?"Since you want to turn your back on a pregnant woman that has difficulty in doing some things,then you may as well also turn your back on everyone else who is given a helping hand.Some may have been by choice and some by fate.But overall,we are helping those who need it."Choice" is irrevelent.
`Sensei
Again, I know it's a miracle, I'm not sayin' it's not, so please stop sayin' that I am, when I never said anything like it, I personally find it offensive when someone blatantly lies about what I said, yes, there is freedom of speech, but I don't think that applies to slander.
BJJ763 said:
Seems people don't like the spots reserved for a few reasons. One being that pregnant women are getting treated special and that's unfair to nonpregnant. Well no one ever said the world was fair and the fact remains other people are already getting special treatment.
Yes, people other than pregnant women are getting special treatment, but some people get those permits because of a non-self choice had caused them to be in a lot worse condition(Like not being able to be in the sun for more than a few minutes without having major medical problems), then most people, unlike where the walk is good for pregnant women, but "they should get special treatment because of their own choice".
BJJ763 said:
There is no enforcement of pregnancy parking, except your own social and moral values.
Exactly what one of the main problems are, that without enforcement, this does NOTHING more then penalize Mr. Nice Guy(so to speak).
This post was IMO
Thanks for reading.