TODDakaESTEBAN
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you're right but DM version can't deal ohkos EVERY turn i really think that the claydol version stands toe to toe with DM version but i would give the match to DM unless the claydol build had BF
LOLolollllllLOLlllLOL.you're right but DM version can't deal ohkos EVERY turn i really think that the claydol version stands toe to toe with DM version but i would give the match to DM unless the claydol build had BF
he didnt mean that claydol deals onehit kos he was correcting the person above him for saying that delcatty magneton deals onehit kos every turn LOLOLOLOLOLLLLLLL
no it doesn't i've played it myself and i've played more than one other player with it including chriscobi who came in seconds at states with it and no it does not deal ohkos every turn i will play you if you want to prove that it does, i won't even play gardy because of how it loses to gardy, but i will play something that's decently fast and has high hp just to give a fair example of how it doesn't consistantly ohko
I think you have to admit that I didn't deal OHKO because I was under the lock. When I played against your Gyarados deck I got you for the OHKO on the Gyarados and still attached for turn. So had I needed the energy I wouldn't have attached and gotten the OHKO on any 140 HP pokemon.
Delcatty/Magneton = OHKO
Claydol = Slightly more consistent, but no OHKO here.
Claydol>DM IMO, because there's more room for draw and energy since it runs less pokemon and no windstorm. It can also run 4 Steven and have no fear of not being able to play them. Almost every deck out there will have at least 3 pokes in play. 2 Cosmic Pwrs+Steven/Felicity=more draw power than DM. Not to mention the added Croconaw pulls you'll get from running more energy. I've played A LOT with both versions and I will agree that DM has higher damage output mid-late game but is harder to set up and easier to disrupt. I set up faster with Claydol and can do more damage early game. And with Claydol it isn't hard for my version to OHKO every turn. Although it can miss the OHKO like once or twice a game. Here's my current and probably final list since I can't think of any more improvments using current sets, Enjoy:
4/3/4 Feraligatr MT
3/3 Claydol GE
4 Pachirisu GE
1 Plusle SW
3 Celio
2 Roseanne
4 Steven
2 Felicity
3 Candy
2 Master Ball
1 Night Maintenance
1 Warp Point
13 Water
4 DRE
2 Cyclone
1 Scramble