Idea for Gym Challenge format......

[duanojo]

If that one card were limited to 1 or errated to one TOTAL per turn, then the entire format would become so incredibly wide open it's not funny.

I agree, Bullados, but I also think we need to have Firestarter Blaziken's power limited to once per turn no matter how many Blazes are out. Suddenly, it takes longer to get BEX, 'Quaza, and Tails powered up and gives other decks a chance to hit again. That's what should have been done with Slowking, only once per turn no matter how many were in play.

but originality doesnt have much chance now a days, and with the money i spend on cards, i want to win

Same here. I went against all of my player's inclinations against archetypes for my SC and played Gardy. I lost quite a bit more than I won. For a side event, I played a TM deck that also lost, but I had a lot more fun. My favorite deck in this format is a Gengar/Golduck/Magby deck that can frustrate the heck out of another player. It's a lot of fun to play, but it doesn't have a knockout punch. Dare I play something like that when a trip to Florida or a bye at Nationals is on the line? I don't know. Why not play Blaze and take my chances against every other Blaze deck?

 

[nikePK]

Hey, I'm still playing original and doing quite well, thanks, Mewsmom. I don't play blaze. Honestly, if you take out all the ex pokemon, you're destroying a LOT of trades people have made over the course of these last few months. Not all ex pokemon are broken. Very few of them are, actually.

Now, lets say you drop ex's from the lineup, what do you have that will dominate? Well, Niniken already beats most stuff out there now, even water decks... how do you explain that TAKING OUT ex pokemon would help that situation any? Sure, its beatable. Blaziken is beatable. People have proven that in tournaments. So if Blaze is beatable, why do we need to change the format to make another similar deck just as dominant? Blaze is rampant, indeed, but that doesn't mean every single person out there is playing it. Other decks are winning, but they are few and far between. The results would be the same if ex's are taken out of the game, which is why this is a stupid idea =|

 

[davechri]

I couldn't disagree more.

I want every single deck at every Gym/Stadium Challenge to be a Blaziken variant.

That's the only way this stagnant format will ever get changed.

 

[EnjoiPandaPoo]

I agree with you Dave. I'm sorry but I am just sick of hearing every one complain about how broken Blaziken (EX) is. With Gardy I played against 4 Blaziken decks at FL States and beat 3. The one I lost to got a god setup so obv. I would've lost. The other 3, 1 got a crap start and the other 2 were noob players. This deck CAN be beat. Back on topic, I don't think banning EX's would help, cause a single deck would just take over and we'd have the same exact problem. I'm sure right after the GC's we will see a decline in Blaziken decks.

 

[sneaselsrevenge]

I don't have a problem with originality. But, Archetypes became archetypes because they win, and when there's so much on the line(trips, invites, product, ect.) I want to win. I also agree that we play the game to have fun, but don't you have more fun when you win? I know I do. And for the record, no I don't play a Blaziken variant, I play a Swampert variant.

 

[davechri]

I play Gengar/Shedinja and I've won a few and lost a few and, more importantly, had a lot of fun in the process. But like <banned's>revenge said, when there's so much on the line, you want to win.

With that being said, we're gearing up with Blaze decks and seeing what we've got.

 

[Pidgeotto Trainer]

A month or so back when many of us talked about banning Blaze ex I like many others did not see any way of countering that deck successfully. But I like some others have seen counters that DO work. Blaze ex does not need to be banned. (we know this topic stems from that even if its different) The format is not stagnant, there have been several other viable ideas since TA/TM besides Blaze ex. Blaziken ex might be the best deck but there is enough counters so that it won't get to 90%. If it did the smart Water players would get more wins and Blaze would decline cuz of that.
Now for the idea of changing the format completely by banning ex's.....
I personally hate this idea for the GC/SC. I don't know (or think) Niniken would be overly dominant but to turn this format on its head right before Worlds qualifiers is simply not fair. Obviously people have been practicing their decks already for this and it simply wouldn't be fair this late. If they want to try something at Worlds.... maybe if they announce it early on. But that would be stupid anyways. Why would Nintendo downgrade their most sought after cards?
One more thing: Archetypes dominating is inevitable but it is not 1 archetype its several. There are so many varients to each 1 that can work.

 

[RaNd0m]

People, Blaziken ex is good, but not THAT good. Is it worth banning? Perhaps. But it's honestly not going to beat a deck every time.

Oh, and I beg to differ... without Blaze ex, water decks dominate Blaze.

 

[HYPER EEVEE]

K the way i seee is that blaze ex is only good because it is backed up by blaze (r/s). I f we could either change blaze to once a turn it would be great or even returning his power to that of Typhlosion (NG), but banning blaze is not the thing we should make more fair. I think that Typhlosion ex would better if bex did not have blaze so just control blaze, but as for rare candy of course theres no need to ban may be we should change it to breeders wording though.