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Kyurem vs Cobalion. Should I Accept the Autloss?

Rambo said:
I've been playing with Cake, and as well as being one of the most fun decks to play, it's extremely versatile and can deal with so much. Of course you need to use Absol Prime for it to count.

I wouldn't accept the autoloss, you need to get a decent amount of damage on it with Kyurem, then Gatr it, or you can play Eviolite and Defender, hope they attack and/or don't have pluspower.

Also, at Amphy, do most lists run Dodrio? I've never found a use for it when I play, I gave up on it long ago.
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Absol prime....hmmm

But do you run something in order to deal with putting pokemon in the lost zone?

it seems to be a good card to go with Kyurem, more so than Victini, it seems Absol would be in a differet type of deck though, one that would be without gatr.
 
possibly but I wonder how Kingdra prime is able to compete so well in the meta

I doubt Kyrugatr is crappy by any means.
 
There are at least 3 better ways of running Kyurem than pairing it with Gatr. Probably more.
 
yeah, pair with Kingdra prime, pair with Absol prime in some type of dark/water deck.

pair it with Blastoise.


I run Kyru/gatr and I just find no use for Gatr except its ability, the decks only hitter tended to be Kyurem since it was hard getting a fully powered Gatr even with rain dance.
 
What? No. None of those things.

C/K/E, Donphan/Dragons, and 6 Corners are all better than Kyurem/Gatr.
 
Well honestly looking at cities results so far, Kyurem has not really made a 1st place stand, most Kyurems used were teched in with the exception of the Cobalion/Eletrode/Kingdra variation which you mentioned.
 
Crinus said:
Well honestly looking at cities results so far, Kyurem has not really made a 1st place stand, most Kyurems used were teched in with the exception of the Cobalion/Eletrode/Kingdra variation which you mentioned.
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I dunno where you keep getting Kingdra from. No-one is playing Kyurem with Kingdra.

C/K/E is Cobalion/Kyurem/Electrode.

But you are correct. Apart from C/K/E (which is doing pretty well), Kyurem seems better used as a tech in decks like Donphan Dragons, The Truth, and 6 Corners.
 
What else you going to really add into a Gatr deck? I realize the problem in running such a deck is that you almost will never have a good shot at powering the Gatr up to the full 4 waters since you adding them else where. Kyurem is the best high HP water basic their is and all its good for is spread dmg.

Thus making Kyurem more a tech card than anything. That leaves Gatr needing something worth wild to make it useful, and I just cant think of nothing unless its Blastoise., maybe Beartic, but at this point I would think you have to have Kyurems in there still. I just find Gatr as nothing but a card much like Vileplume where its there on the bench for nothing more than its poke power, even though Gatr will do good dmg to pokemon with dmg already on it, its just the fact its real hard to add waters to it for its attack when you got other things more viable.
 
baby mario said:
What? No. None of those things.

C/K/E, Donphan/Dragons, and 6 Corners are all better than Kyurem/Gatr.
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Hahaha ok. You keep telling yourself that when you explode for 0 energy. Kyurem/Gatr destroys donphan dragons. And six corners is a ridiculous deck which only a few players will be able to make successfully.

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amphy#1 said:
I'll be spreading damage before they can be powered up. (while Cobalion is on the bench) Also, "If they kill me, then I'll send out a Kyruem, or Gatr. They'll already have damage on them, so it'll be that much easier to kill em."

Reading is key.

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No. nobody really runs Dodrio. But I think it's a great counter to Cobalion's 2nd attack. it's only right that you have something that can deal with it, since people are playing a lot of it.

Now the 2nd attack automatically kills Kyruem. You've got to be ready with another attacker. If not, then you're sunk.
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You do realize you need to stack like 5 damge counters on cobalion if it has two special steel on it to kill it with gatr. While you are trying to get those damage counters spread cobalion will be OHKOing every kyurem you send up. Have you even played this match-up at all?
 
Isnt six corners a type of deck that can be altered to match the meta game? i mean could six corners be a deck that is totally different from the origanal list? Like six totally different attacking pokemon.
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What is six corners anyway? Reshiram, Zekrom, Blissey Prime, Plume, and Cobalion?

I know I ran into a deck like that, goood god almighty was it ever annoying and impossible to beat.
 
Sceptile King said:
Isnt six corners a type of deck that can be altered to match the meta game? i mean could six corners be a deck that is totally different from the origanal list? Like six totally different attacking pokemon.
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The general list which I've seen tossed around runs the three dragons and Terrakion,Virizion. But yes the deck is very open to changes depending on the meta. No matter what you run though the deck is still hard to play
 
yeah i know its hard to play, but six corners can be a variety of attackers. i guess what im saying is that six corners is a deck that isnt only limited to that one list.
Also the deck list for 6 corners is on thedeckout.com? i think thats right
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Gatr and Kyruem were made for each other. Kyruem makes Gatrs attack more powerfull, which is really good. How is it hard to power up Gatr, when all you have to do is just attach them from your hand. We've got plenty of draw power in this game. You've got no excuse now. Don't underestimate Gatr, because he'll bite you in the butt. :lol:
 
The problem?

getting enough energy into your hand.

people suggest 10-12 energies, sometimes less in a deck, well you need half the supply of your energies between Kyurem and Gatr, 4 waters for Gatr + 2 waters for Kyurem and 1 rescue or random energy for Kyurem. = 7 energies. 10-12 I didnt include the colorless energies.

Sure you may have energy retrievals, I found a lack of speed on the gatr side, Kyurem would do its job, but trying to setup for gatr is difficult. If you cant get Gatr setup with 4 waters, you got nothing else to fall back on for a big hit. I aint saying its impossible, but its hard to get enough energies early on which you desperately need.
 
amphy#1 said:
Gatr and Kyruem were made for each other. Kyruem makes Gatrs attack more powerfull, which is really good. How is it hard to power up Gatr, when all you have to do is just attach them from your hand. We've got plenty of draw power in this game. You've got no excuse now. Don't underestimate Gatr, because he'll bite you in the butt. :lol:
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I run gatr. I know what a good attacker he can be, but agianst cobalion he doesn't do very much
 
FireFormation said:
Hahaha ok. You keep telling yourself that when you explode for 0 energy. Kyurem/Gatr destroys donphan dragons. And six corners is a ridiculous deck which only a few players will be able to make successfully.
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Why would I need to 'tell myself that'?

I can look at what's winning and see that all of those decks are more successful that Kyurem/Gatr.

That's the real joke.
 
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baby mario said:
Why would I need to 'tell myself that'?

I can look at what's winning and see that all of those decks are more successful that Kyurem/Gatr.

That's the real joke.
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The only reason that deck is winning is because of the large number of people running it. When so many people run it a few are bound to get lucky.
 
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