Lame-U (L-AMU): Testing the Pixies

[Flaming_Spinach]

Its not like you guys are forced to play this deck,Kingdra just seems like another cookie cutter really,similar to Gardilade in a way to this:

1. Dragon Pump= Psy Lock:It dosent stop power,but its the main focus to consistently do damage to your opponents active and bench.

2. Aqua Stream = Psy Cut: DO massive damage to take care of any threat.

3. Alakazam MT = Dusknoir DP : Control your opponents powers instead of your opponents bench.

1. Yes, main focus of the deck. Other than that, I see no similarity.

2. Uh, no. You will use Aqua Stream rarely, and it will NEVER do 100+ like Psychic Cut can.

3. If you play Alakazam, you are playing the deck wrong.

Kingdra is ultra-fast and ultra-efficient beatdown. Please don't think it's anything else.

 

[~`Flygon`~]

1. Yes, main focus of the deck. Other than that, I see no similarity.

2. Uh, no. You will use Aqua Stream rarely, and it will NEVER do 100+ like Psychic Cut can.

3. If you play Alakazam, you are playing the deck wrong.

Kingdra is ultra-fast and ultra-efficient beatdown. Please don't think it's anything else.

Lol if you think their isnt ever a instance where you will need to do 100+ then your sadly mistaken.
Rarely use Aqua Stream,you can discard useful cards FOREVER?,you have to use it unless you wanna deck and why do you think Dragon Pump is useful,cuz it builds its first attack for massive damage,thats why the deck plays 15+ energies.Yea Alakazam is bad since it can stop a power they need and discard waters,yea its really bad. :/

Its similiar in a way since you and other people are in love with it.

Leafeon> Kingdra

 

[getlikeme23]

its so dumb to use 2 Mesprit Lv.X when you have Night maintenance and you max out on Premier Balls.

2 MEsprit LA/1 Mesprit MT/1 Mesprit Lv.X is the right Mesprit line.[/QUOTE

If I was to attempt to play this mess that's how I would play my mespirits, but if you were to say that you shouldn't play 2 Mespirit Lv. X the devoted pixie players will talk about how your list isn't one of the few good ones.

 

[DarthPika]

I really don't see this deck being the blissey or gardevoir of next season I more likely think of this as the hurricane of next season all fuel and no substance. :nonono:

Hate to ruin it for you, but Hurricane was a very good deck, and still is. It won several tourneys, and considering that Blissy and Plox DESTROYED it, it did very well. I've done lots of testing with AMU and I can tell you that there is quite a lot more to a good one then you would think.

 

[Dr. Mason]

Hurricane should come back nest year when IFDS hits the scene. Zong just cries for it.

 

[Prime]

Its not even the same strategy as Destiny. What else could it do?

8. Lock energy,opponents from playing Call with Azleaf
Which isn't much, especially when your opponent is hitting your pixies for big damage.
9. Makes basics use one more * to attack
It helped against Destiny-type decks, but most decks aren't Destiny-type decks and most decks evolve, making this ability quite useless as the game goes on.
10.Slow down spreading with Uxie Memory Out
It helps against spread, but it doesn't really fix the problem of an offensive attack done upon the active Pokemon, which will be happening more often than spreading.
11.30 + Sleep
This is what I don't get. People act like the deck has SO many options, but to get all those options, you have to run 1's of every pixie, often time reducing consistency. Honestly, I'd rather run the LA Uxie that refills my hand to 7, but if I do that, I don't get 30+sleep.

30+sleep isn't going to stall for too long, but it is nice for just 1 energy.
12:70 for 2
Which will only happen when you and your opponent have the exact same number of cards in hand. Please don't act like this happens that often to even be able to take advantage of. Remember, Copycat won't be legal by the time BRs come around.
13:Get pokes from prizes.
It's definitely great, but it doesn't do anything offensively. It just helps setup.
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In my honest opinion, AMU just has 1 decent choice of attacking, and that is Supreme Blast. 60 for 2 isn't anything special, especially when you can't use the attack next turn, and every other attack in the deck either does too little damage or requires weird things to work.

 

[Prime]

On the Kingdra topic, I agree and disagree. You won't be doing Kingdra's first attack that often, because it won't be doing that much damage. But you do need it for some situations where you need to OHKO a threat before it OHKOs you. 60's just don't OHKO much of anything anymore, and has problems two-hit-KOing things without Plus Power or previous spreading. Also, you won't be able to discard the entire game, so Kingdra's second attack won't always be able to do the 60+20 sniping.

But can we get on the topic of AMU again, please?

 

[Chromecatz]

Thanks Prime, honestly i think you are completely correct. The only good thing about the deck is Surpeme Blast. All of the other little parlor tricks are overrated next format as the pokemon get bigger and hit for more.

 

[~`Flygon`~]

the same hand thing is everyone is going to be playing Claydol,so doing 70 has as much chance of you have hand of Kingdra/Candy/Water/Water/Water/Horsea/Baltoy and draw a supporter.

Im not even defending Pixies,Im just stating what they do.

Both decks are ovverrated.

 

[Prime]

I agree. Both decks are overrated. But both decks are based around Pokemon that are better than normal and have potential next format. That is why it's good to look into the ideas, like I did, because saying a deck is overrated is one thing, but knowing a deck is overrated by experience is a much better thing.

I would like to try the deck with another line of Pokemon. I think if there was another line of Pokemon in the deck to help it attack when not fully setup, it would help tremendously.

 

[DeathBerry]

I agree. Both decks are overrated. But both decks are based around Pokemon that are better than normal and have potential next format. That is why it's good to look into the ideas, like I did, because saying a deck is overrated is one thing, but knowing a deck is overrated by experience is a much better thing.

I would like to try the deck with another line of Pokemon. I think if there was another line of Pokemon in the deck to help it attack when not fully setup, it would help tremendously.

When Mewtwo Lv. X came to mind, I threw in a 2-2 Froslass line into my list. Destiny Bond allows you to prevent KO's and it's second attack can setup future KO's with Uxie or Azelf if you need to. Auto sleep is pretty nice as well.

 

[Prime]

I could see someone Destiny Stalling for a few turns, but it also gives the opponent a few turns to setup too. The spreading would help tremendously with the lower dmg atks too.

Good idea.

Stage 1's would probably be the best idea for a helper for AMU.

 

[getlikeme23]

Hate to ruin it for you, but Hurricane was a very good deck, and still is. It won several tourneys, and considering that Blissy and Plox DESTROYED it, it did very well. I've done lots of testing with AMU and I can tell you that there is quite a lot more to a good one then you would think.

It probally won a couple cities or BR, but it most definately wasn't an archetype and it didn't live up to all the hype it was getting. And like I said before I played the deck it was able to get a turn 3 supreme blast and after that it was all downhill for the deck. They just don't have enough HP and Snowpoint Temple can easily be discarded and all you have to do is counter it at the right time. When cities time comes around I really don't think it will be an archetype.

 

[BloodDraek]

I agree. Both decks are overrated. But both decks are based around Pokemon that are better than normal and have potential next format. That is why it's good to look into the ideas, like I did, because saying a deck is overrated is one thing, but knowing a deck is overrated by experience is a much better thing.

I would like to try the deck with another line of Pokemon. I think if there was another line of Pokemon in the deck to help it attack when not fully setup, it would help tremendously.

prime, could you test kingdra and post ur results like you did for AMU.


Now I will tell you right now, there are so many great decks getting overshadowed by kingdra and AMU. I have tested Evelutions and I have almost made an awesome list for the deck.

I think we should stop testing kingdra and AMU and try testing other decks that have potential.

 

[butlerforhire]

In the deck forum someone posted an AMU variant with Leafeon lv. X to allow for consecutive Supreme Blasts, and I could actually see that working potentially with the right build. The one in the deck forum was definitely in need of some changes (not to bash it or anything), but the idea of Leafeon lv. X itself, while meaning the deck would need to get out ANOTHER level X, seems interesting to me. Espeon could also serve as a great counter to Mewtwo lv. X since it gets a OHKO on it while also being able to pass energy off to Mesprit lv. X.

 

[yoyofsho16]

In the deck forum someone posted an AMU variant with Leafeon lv. X to allow for consecutive Supreme Blasts, and I could actually see that working potentially with the right build. The one in the deck forum was definitely in need of some changes (not to bash it or anything), but the idea of Leafeon lv. X itself, while meaning the deck would need to get out ANOTHER level X, seems interesting to me. Espeon could also serve as a great counter to Mewtwo lv. X since it gets a OHKO on it while also being able to pass energy off to Mesprit lv. X.

Woah woah woah, that is a lot of bench!

Mesprit, Azelf, Uxie, Leafeon, Espeon, just for the deck to be effective. That is way too much IMO.

 

[Dr. Mason]

Mightyena, as I said, is a wondeful attack. Just run 4 multi with it and you're set. It can can do 60 every turn and completely shut down other basics.

 

[butlerforhire]

Espeon wouldn't have to be there, only against something running Mewtwo lv. X. The only real addition to the bench would be the Leafeon lv. X.

I'm not saying it would work and I certainly haven't done any testing. I just hadn't seen anyone even mention Leafeon lv. X and AMU.

 

[DarthPika]

In the deck forum someone posted an AMU variant with Leafeon lv. X to allow for consecutive Supreme Blasts, and I could actually see that working potentially with the right build. The one in the deck forum was definitely in need of some changes (not to bash it or anything), but the idea of Leafeon lv. X itself, while meaning the deck would need to get out ANOTHER level X, seems interesting to me. Espeon could also serve as a great counter to Mewtwo lv. X since it gets a OHKO on it while also being able to pass energy off to Mesprit lv. X.

That was my idea for the Leafeon Lv.x in that one.

I have been testing both with and with out, and so far the leafeon version is slower, and a little less consistent, but in the long run more powerfull. The energy pickup version one is faster, and more consistent, but I'm not 100% sure on the matches yet.

 

[butlerforhire]

That was my idea for the Leafeon Lv.x in that one.

I have been testing both with and with out, and so far the leafeon version is slower, and a little less consistent, but in the long run more powerfull. The energy pickup version one is faster, and more consistent, but I'm not 100% sure on the matches yet.

The "AMUL" deck that went up today I believe? There was only one reply in that thread when I looked at it and the deck had Leafeon lv. X to begin with anyway. Maybe there was more than one Leafeon lv. X/AMU hybrid up or something.