BigChuck01
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*NOTE: Before reading this, let me just say that I believe BSP is the best deck in the format right now, and while some of these ideas may seem amazing, sometimes the deck is just too fast or the player is too good for them to work out. Nothing is 100% fullproof in Pokemon, but still, this should help you play against the deck a bit better*
I noticed that most of this forum is simply people complaining about LBS, so I guess I'll take some time out of my BUSY scheduel and give some pointers on how to beat the big bad Blastoise.
The thing that I notice most when playing against BSP is that they almost always take the first few prizes, so naturally, the cards that work best when you're losing are going to be your best option against it. Let's take a look at a few different weapons:
1. POW/Scramble:
Scramble Energy and a fighting/fire Pokemon will let you knock out that Steelix when it Mudslides your Pidgeot, or Scramble the 100 HP Lugia that probably already has Energy Rain damage, and KO it or at least get enough damage on it so it can't get Energy Rained on anymore. If you play POW with Scramble, you can POW up the Blastoise and maybe hit it with a big lightning pokemon like Amphy, Metagross, or Trode EX. ***WHEN BSP DOESNT HAVE A STOISE IN PLAY, IT LOSES*** POW also gives you the option of POWing weak Lugias for 2 free prizes.
2. POW/Admin
Blastoise has a big hefty retreat cost, so if you POW it lategame and Admin the person for 2-3, the Blastoise is usually going to be up there for a few turns, which is enough time to knock it out. Most BSP decks only play 1 switch, so you might have to POW it twice, but that's fine. As soon as Blastoise is dead, you should be good to go.
3. Frontier/Admin
BSP relies heavily on it's quicksearches to get it's Holon's Pokemon, so a Frontier and admin to 2-3 lategame usually results in your opponent passing for a few turns, giving you enough time to do your thing.
4. Frontier/Admin/Roselia LM
A few decks can play this little trick. The idea is to shut off Pidgeot and get them to 2-3 cards, then use Roselia's attack on Blastoise which brings it up and poisions it, shutting off it's energy rain. With no QS and no Energy Rain, the Stoise should hang.
The other obvious thing about BSP is that it plays all EX Pokemon, so here are some more things you could do:
1. Weezing/Ruins
Liability with a desert ruins in play will OHKO the Lugia, Steelix, and Blastoise, which is huge. Don't evolve koffing untill the turn you're going to use it, or else Weezing will just get Mudslided for free.
2. Desert Ruins/Cursed Stone
If you play 4 Ruins and 1 Cursed Stone, drop the stone as early as possible and make them take it out to save their Pidgeot/Stoise/Jirachi. At this point, you can now eventually stick one of your 4 remaining Desert Ruins, putting them on a short clock before all of their Pokemon are KOed.
Here are some anti EX things that DONT work:
Safeguard:
Ninetails - Wartortle and Pidgeot both take care of this guy.
Dustox EX - Most BSP are now playing the Ditto/Mime, which conveniently is not an EX Pokemon, and CONVENIENTLY does 140 for 3 energy due to Dustox's weakness. You can also get Jirachi swarmed as well.
Dewgong - Say it to my face!
Here's what I would try to do with individual decks against BSP:
BSP vs Rock-Lock - 50/50: I think this is one of the most even matchups out there right now, besides Rock-Lock vs Queen. If BSP can get a Pidgeot via Pidgeotto or a Stoise via Wartortle before you can rock, you're in trouble. Otherwise, high Scramble, high Ruins, Fighting/Lightning, and Sand Damage gives them a hard match. Make sure you have the Scramble/Ttar ready when Steelix comes to get your Pidgeot, and just try to stick a ruins and get enough damage on the Lugias so that they cant get more than 1 KO each.
BSP vs Machamp - 70/30: Machamp relies on it's multiple briney's and Miltoic to stay alive while you OHKO all of their stuff with speed blow. Unfortunately, that doesnt work against the 200 damage Lugia dishes out. HL Machamp helps, but just ends up getting Lugiaed itself. Your best bet is to try to set up fast and swarm with Machamps before they get too set up. Obv stickign a ruins helps too.
BSP vs Cham - 50/50: Close matchup that depends on who gets what. The key is to go right after the Squirtles with pure power and Pow. If they don't have stoise, they lose. If they candy to stoise, you have 2 options. A - Pow it and Admin, then start Pure Powering the bench or attacking Stoise. B - Espeon the Stoise as much as possible to keep it out of play. Again, if they don't have stoise, they lose.
BSP vs Nidoqueen - 70/30: Ends up being the same thing as Machamp. Nidoqueen just get's Elemntal Blasted over and over. Hope they play the gym first, and try to stick a Ruins on them. Use your Pidgeots offensively vs the Lugias since you have 3 of them to work with.
BSP vs Ludi - 70/30: Steelix being able to OHKO everything in your deck makes it very hard to function. You have to surprise them big time with a swoop/scramble/Cargo KO, but even after that, Steelix #2 is still there to clean up. If anything, try to Frontier lock them, and then hit them with a crutial admin at the end.
Let me know if you want me to add anything else :-D.
I noticed that most of this forum is simply people complaining about LBS, so I guess I'll take some time out of my BUSY scheduel and give some pointers on how to beat the big bad Blastoise.
The thing that I notice most when playing against BSP is that they almost always take the first few prizes, so naturally, the cards that work best when you're losing are going to be your best option against it. Let's take a look at a few different weapons:
1. POW/Scramble:
Scramble Energy and a fighting/fire Pokemon will let you knock out that Steelix when it Mudslides your Pidgeot, or Scramble the 100 HP Lugia that probably already has Energy Rain damage, and KO it or at least get enough damage on it so it can't get Energy Rained on anymore. If you play POW with Scramble, you can POW up the Blastoise and maybe hit it with a big lightning pokemon like Amphy, Metagross, or Trode EX. ***WHEN BSP DOESNT HAVE A STOISE IN PLAY, IT LOSES*** POW also gives you the option of POWing weak Lugias for 2 free prizes.
2. POW/Admin
Blastoise has a big hefty retreat cost, so if you POW it lategame and Admin the person for 2-3, the Blastoise is usually going to be up there for a few turns, which is enough time to knock it out. Most BSP decks only play 1 switch, so you might have to POW it twice, but that's fine. As soon as Blastoise is dead, you should be good to go.
3. Frontier/Admin
BSP relies heavily on it's quicksearches to get it's Holon's Pokemon, so a Frontier and admin to 2-3 lategame usually results in your opponent passing for a few turns, giving you enough time to do your thing.
4. Frontier/Admin/Roselia LM
A few decks can play this little trick. The idea is to shut off Pidgeot and get them to 2-3 cards, then use Roselia's attack on Blastoise which brings it up and poisions it, shutting off it's energy rain. With no QS and no Energy Rain, the Stoise should hang.
The other obvious thing about BSP is that it plays all EX Pokemon, so here are some more things you could do:
1. Weezing/Ruins
Liability with a desert ruins in play will OHKO the Lugia, Steelix, and Blastoise, which is huge. Don't evolve koffing untill the turn you're going to use it, or else Weezing will just get Mudslided for free.
2. Desert Ruins/Cursed Stone
If you play 4 Ruins and 1 Cursed Stone, drop the stone as early as possible and make them take it out to save their Pidgeot/Stoise/Jirachi. At this point, you can now eventually stick one of your 4 remaining Desert Ruins, putting them on a short clock before all of their Pokemon are KOed.
Here are some anti EX things that DONT work:
Safeguard:
Ninetails - Wartortle and Pidgeot both take care of this guy.
Dustox EX - Most BSP are now playing the Ditto/Mime, which conveniently is not an EX Pokemon, and CONVENIENTLY does 140 for 3 energy due to Dustox's weakness. You can also get Jirachi swarmed as well.
Dewgong - Say it to my face!
Here's what I would try to do with individual decks against BSP:
BSP vs Rock-Lock - 50/50: I think this is one of the most even matchups out there right now, besides Rock-Lock vs Queen. If BSP can get a Pidgeot via Pidgeotto or a Stoise via Wartortle before you can rock, you're in trouble. Otherwise, high Scramble, high Ruins, Fighting/Lightning, and Sand Damage gives them a hard match. Make sure you have the Scramble/Ttar ready when Steelix comes to get your Pidgeot, and just try to stick a ruins and get enough damage on the Lugias so that they cant get more than 1 KO each.
BSP vs Machamp - 70/30: Machamp relies on it's multiple briney's and Miltoic to stay alive while you OHKO all of their stuff with speed blow. Unfortunately, that doesnt work against the 200 damage Lugia dishes out. HL Machamp helps, but just ends up getting Lugiaed itself. Your best bet is to try to set up fast and swarm with Machamps before they get too set up. Obv stickign a ruins helps too.
BSP vs Cham - 50/50: Close matchup that depends on who gets what. The key is to go right after the Squirtles with pure power and Pow. If they don't have stoise, they lose. If they candy to stoise, you have 2 options. A - Pow it and Admin, then start Pure Powering the bench or attacking Stoise. B - Espeon the Stoise as much as possible to keep it out of play. Again, if they don't have stoise, they lose.
BSP vs Nidoqueen - 70/30: Ends up being the same thing as Machamp. Nidoqueen just get's Elemntal Blasted over and over. Hope they play the gym first, and try to stick a Ruins on them. Use your Pidgeots offensively vs the Lugias since you have 3 of them to work with.
BSP vs Ludi - 70/30: Steelix being able to OHKO everything in your deck makes it very hard to function. You have to surprise them big time with a swoop/scramble/Cargo KO, but even after that, Steelix #2 is still there to clean up. If anything, try to Frontier lock them, and then hit them with a crutial admin at the end.
Let me know if you want me to add anything else :-D.
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