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[Pablo]

Pete if I could contact you directly through email instead of replying to this it would be much better.

I already provided proof that the numbers were increased! I provided pictures of the pairings, showing me playing an 11-14 year old thus not being an age separated swiss tournament and also showing the amount of players in the tournament, barely 30.

Also it is not that the PTO status in Mexico is held to holy ground and people want it, that is what Ives has led you to believe in order to cover up for his lies, I can assure you most players would rather play in well organized tournaments for the prizes instead than organizing themselves. Specially WeRo (Miguel Angel) since he is a very competitive and good player, who shouldn't miss Worlds any year, and I am sure now if he was offered to be a PTO he would decline it without hesitation.

Pete, WHO are your sources of confirmation when accusations are made? I'm assuming you contact people like Daniel, Carlos, Giordan, and other people who are close to Ives, are part of his judging staff and will obviously lie for him. Why havent some players been approched to talk about it? I have been trying to get PUI to open their eyes about this for a long time, but it is always me who approaches you. If PUI knows I am the most fluent english language speaking person and have attended 90% of these tournaments, why wasnt I asked for my opinion? I also do not know a single player who has been approached, but I might be wrong, and if they were approached, how were they selected? Ives provided the emails OR did you look through active MyPokemon accounts?

I guess contacting Dave about this was a mistake and it should have been you instead Pete DeShaw, ask Dave for the photographic evidence, he said he put it in the investigation file. Get emails out to ask the players approximate attendance for the tournament, ask for 10- and 11-14 attendance at CC's and States. His numbers will not check up. Ask the players not Ives, I really wonder how things about here are investigated because the way i see it right now, the investigations look like Ives convincing you he did everything right and basing it off of words of someone.

We do not care WHO the next PTO is, what we need is someone who actually cares, and doesnt have personal grudges against people, that he is willing to cheat them out of Top 32 at their Nationals by any means possible.

Contact me for approximatte attendance numbers, contact the players, get moreproof other than Ives words or prove me wrong and please tell me how things are investigated at PUI.

Back to back posts merged. The following information has been added:

And about the pod system, if it was approved so long ago, why werent the players adivsed? if they were going to be used as a test, they should have at least known what to expect, add to that NOT randomized pods which he admits to, and all the things about grudges and dropouts adds up.

 

[CHARIZARD MASTERTRAINER]

Well, thanks Dav and Pete... your comments are very important to this situation and feedback is always appreicated, especially when its one of the parties involved. I have to agree with some their comments in this case. Like I said early, we are not only dealing with another country but there is also the language barrier as well. Like Pete said, there are so many issues that companies have to deal with when doing business off in another country, and it just cannot that easy to just set up shop and run events without having to do some paper work.

I am very surprised to hear about that POP was thinking of getting rid of organized play in Mexico and I am very happy that they decided to keep it, because I am sure the game means alot to those kids as they are big fans of the pkmn franchise. I feel that both Pete and Dav have every right to feel upset about the fact that a couple of your are making accusations to certain parties without presenting any proof (I know I would be in this case as well). Unlike them, I feel that if any kind of complaint is being made toward said person, I would think that there should be some sort of investigation into the incident. Saying this, I do not agree with the way the complaints were presented, if anything they should have been forwarded to POP before hand in order for some proper action to be taken.

I cannot tell whether these complaints were true or not, because I was not there myself and also I could not say whether the people making these claims are credible. All I can say in this case, I feel that if any type of complaint were being presented to me, I would try to investigate the incident in order to resolve the dispute (just to be on the safe side and end all false complaints). Now saying all this, its times like this that make me happy that I'm not in law enforcement, think of what they have to deal with every time someone tries to press charges or prove a suspect to be gulit of said charges. Too bad I can't say the same thing for lawyers :redface: :redface: .....I don't know who has it worse.

CMT​

 

[Giordan]

Pablo, about what you said of me, lying about ives results, that really hurts you know?
Lots of players in mexico know that I USED TO BE real close to ives, and also considered his right hand, but now i´m part of Arlequin, the biggest distributor of TCG in México and i coordinate lot of things with ives because of that, together OP and the distributor have the power to bring lot of players and improve POP here in our country, i have contact with clients and players who buy the product and want to be part of this, so you are calling me a liar.
You were part of our group, and part of what POP is in méxico now,and that is because of our work, the first events of pokemon were realized in Arlequin, also arlequin keeps supporting POP programs, and you know the big capacity of it.
I´ve been neutral in this situation because it has become more personal between you and ives, its a shame because you two were good friends of mine but i do not want to take sides.
And also what i´m wondering is, you were not here and you are making such a mess, i mean, just making bigger this situation wich has no consecuences than wero not going to worlds, wich i considered bad because he is one of the best players of mexico and can put our name big, just as you did last year, but unfortunately things happen and we cannot change that
PUI has never contacted me about numbers or results, you know me better than that,and i would make anything to improve POP in mexico,except lying, so please pablo, don´t talk if you don´t know really what´s going on. What´s your point? to get another PTO that just wants to make out bussiness of pokemon? one organizer who doesn´t know about the game, or that does not make this grow? the game needs to grow, not just stay where is now and always have the same people winning so other players leave the game, or new players think twice if they´d continue playing pokemon?
What I´m against is, you calling "pitero" to the national champion just because is not at your level, or new players posting their decks in pokemex and you saying those decks suck, that way you are not helping the game, it has become more bussiness to you than a pleasure, or why you made collusion on the state champs?
You said once in pokemex that when pokemon TCG is not a bussiness for you, you´d quit right?
Please pablo end this up and avoid future confrontations.

 

[Pablo]

Giordan what I said is what I heard, I apologize if you are not involved in this, sorry about that. I haven't called "pitero" (bad) anyone, it is my friends who are definately sore for the loss, and yes I did not attend the event, but what my arguments have been about is from what I have heard of over 50+ people that did attend and most of my arguments are geared towards Ives frauds all over the tournaments. You say you aren't taking sides, but by keeping quiet you are taking Ives side, speak up and be a man and since you have so many connections with the Pokemon TCG, help us get things straightened out, it will be better in business for you and everyone, and for the better of the game. Are you going to lie and say that Ives doesn't increase his tournament numbers? has not kept stuff he shouldnt have throught this past years? You are right, I stopped being friends with IVes because of what he does, and since then he has felt threatened by me and my knowledge of his doings and thus tries his best to prevent me and my friends from talking about things and making sure he looks correct infront of PUI. If you really cared about the game and wanted it to improve, you would step up and being in the powerful position you are, would speak up and get things straightened out, you would say yes, I can confirm Ives has increased tournament numbers for 99% of the ones that have taken place, I care about this game and we need another organizor who can handle things better.

And finally what I said was jsut what I heard, I consider you a very good friend, a very good person, and IMO the best candidate to take over when PUI finally realizes what is going on.

I have been trying for a long time to straighten things out, the fact that this happened and people wanted the Nationals fiasco to be made public just gave me more courage to go public too.

EDIT: Oh and yeah I did say that, about quitting, but I'm banned and here you have me, trying to get everything solved for everyone down here, still going to tourneys, practicing a bit etc., so yeah I might have said that but I have come to realize I actually like this game more than I thought, and the suspension made me realize that.

 

[SteveP]

Let me do a bit of preaching.

The PTO is a powerful position, MUCH more so than a HJ. He has the authority to DQ and turn away players for a variety of reasons. So, once you get on the PTO's bad side, they have plenty of leeway to disallow you to participate at their events.

I strongly suggest that players refrain from publically "bad mouthing" their PTOs. A PTO once told me that if any of the players in his region publically "bad mouthed" him, he'd never let them play at any of his events ever again, regardless of whether POP banned them or not.

Don't pee-off your PTO!

End of preaching.

 

[PlaF-The Master]

Let me do a bit of preaching.

The PTO is a powerful position, MUCH more so than a HJ. He has the authority to DQ and turn away players for a variety of reasons. So, once you get on the PTO's bad side, they have plenty of leeway to disallow you to participate at their events.

I strongly suggest that players refrain from publically "bad mouthing" their PTOs. A PTO once told me that if any of the players in his region publically "bad mouthed" him, he'd never let them play at any of his events ever again, regardless of whether POP banned them or not.

Don't pee-off your PTO!

End of preaching.

"Don't pee-off someone because he is powerfull" is the wrong reasoning for me. It can be a good advice but it is not satisfying for me.
When someone is powerfull I think it good to stand up against him when he makes a lot of mistakes. Anyway it takes a lot of courage and I think that the people with that courage should be listened to and the fact mentionted by those people should be checked.
But I do want to say: don't pee-off someone because you think he is a bad person without really knowing. And even if you really know someone is a bad person try to minamalize the swearing.

I also would like to say it's a shame some great players didn't make worlds because a lack of communication :frown: (I think that the organisation is responsible fot that). I also practised a very lot and played really good but couldn't make the T8 on my nationals cause I was late (I blame the one causing the trainaccident which made my train delay for 90 minutes). But anyway I am happy to have the chance to play and it was fun anyway ^_^. For your Nationals, there is nothing to do about it but preventing it to happen next year. A second nationals is offcourse not a good solution. Think of the players who won this national, even if they only won because some good players were given undeserved losses, it would be not fair for them to run a second nationals.

I hope that both sides will eventuatly give in a bit and atleast try to make something of Mexican OP together. At least good luck ya all with finding the way, to a better OP (yay the last pair of words are rhyming).

 

[IvesRountree]

Pablo, must i remind you why we are friends no more? perhaps 2 incidents im gonna write will help ilustrate better the reason:
First one occured while you were an ascending star, you had you great blaziken deck, to which I assembled a counter just so that your ego (and some other players) stayed on the right level, i remember sweeping you to a 6-0 vistory, as all the ther guys with blaziken decks, I remember putting down the rematch, merely because here was no point to it, that started the bad blood, but it exploded a couple weeks afterwards after a couple guys on th enet told me you had been saying how you had beaten me with at least 5 decks i had made (the only deck of mine you ever beat was my funny light dragonite/blissey deck) and claimimg you had created the niniken formula (which was Julios and Adnan joint effort, you simply copied the deck), so i confronted you that weekend on Arlequin and ypu didnt say a thing, nor replied, your head just hung from your shoulders, as i walked away, from that day on we never spoke more than 3 words again, Giordan can certify that this is true. After that you even got mad and stopped speaking with Rachel, one of the persons that had tipped me off about your lies. Then you claimed to not having known that what you were doing was wrong when you colluded at states, what is funny though is that upon a call from a judge of mine that heard you asking Octavio DOnde for half the money, I called frm my airplane to Donde and asked him whether or not this was true, which he soundly denied, yet you pretty fast mailed Dave to say that you were not aware that you were colluding, i believe in hopes of getting a diminished ban, which you did obtain, but had none of you known it was ilegal... why did Donde lied about it? I guess you can say that you dont have to account for other peoples actions, and Donde's actions arent your concern, though I wont buy that you had no knowledge of the wrong you were comiting. yet you call me a lier and hipocrite and that you have only the best interest of thegame in mind, yet, in these past years never have I heard any comment directly from you or your fiends, never have any of you had the valor to come up to me and say if they had an issue with anything I had done wrong at any tournament, so how does that make you have the best interest of the game in mind? you might say you were afraid of the consequences of doing so, yet then you would not be thinking in the best interest of the game, but on the consequences that speaking up might have on you, that Pablo, is called fear of losing something, which in no way amounts to be thinking for the best interest of the game, which i found even more sad is the fact that i seated and spoke with your affected buddies at the end of the rounds, I came up to them to speak, and none of them expressed ill will, they were sad indeed, but none express ill will towards the many points they did on afterwards on theor posts, they even came back on sunday to trade and sell cards, and yet no comment was issued towrads me, but afterwards they started bombing forums, I call that a lack of valor, since none has ever come to me and asked, commented or even consulted anything with me. had you been so concerned with the interest of the game, i ca assure you you would have come to me anytime and said such strong points, including what you call a lack of competent judges.
I dont believe in shutting players off from badmouthing the PTO, and you might as well acceot that, since you and tyour group has been doing that to me for a couple of years, word gets around Pablo, and if you had the nerve to post all this rubbish on the forums, you might as well say that indeed you had been badmouthing events, yet never bringing the topic directly to me, why go straight for an authority? ill explain in an example: player a waits tll player b starts his game without prizes and then calls a judge, sound sfamiliar? yes, that is a pokemon refernece to trying to get me fired, only problem is, I am innocent of the charges, had you gotten doubts about my events, why not asking me about it? well, that could very well NOT lead into my destituiton, so that is crossed from your list. but nonetheless adressing the points with your PTO should be the very first thing made, so stop pretending that you are simply intereted in the well being of the game.
Then you askof giordan to "turn me in", dude, giordan is pretty straight, he is even neutral as we speak, but considering he judges 2 events a year to me, that woulnt make him a good reference for what you account as "having information of my wrondoings of 99% of my tournaments" or are you trying to make it look as if he was keeping my secrets? well indeed you lack maturity to understand Giordans post was a heavy hearted one, he becomes really depressed when pushed on the line, yet you call him lier, then you took it back, those words are harsh, and do leave a stigma, yet you acceot that the guy is straight as a stick, we both know that, and he is simply asking you to stop this foolishness that youve created, all this "nationals fiasco" was a curtain to hide the true purpouse of the attempt, another step in your "anti Ives" campaign, something which has become pretty much apparent throughout the lenght of this topic, examples abound, for example, the high level of english used to start the topic, yet, the last of weros replies seem a tad different, and with less elegance in writing, anyone who knows Wero can imagine pretty much the reason... Weros level of english is very limited compared to yours, and then the fact that you both were writing from the same computer, I can bet my worlds error card on that you actually wrote those first statements, maybe wero gave ideas and you just translated them, but the point is that you have been behind this the whole time, can you deny the fact that you were part of a group called "T.U.C.I." ? (spanish initials for a group whose name translates as everyone united against Ives) I can see you saying that it was a joke of one of your friends or something like that, but them there would just be enough inconsistencies on your story, ir is plain evident you have never intended anyone's good but your own and your friends, and yet you keep calling names on everyone, judges, players, and even the distributors OP manager, is ther eno ending to this? anyone siding with me is bound to be called hypocrete or a lier? i found you to be rather childish and lacking any kind of common sense towards the topic, i have tried to stay away of the topic, yet i felt infuriated about how you dare call my staff and friends liers and worse things, i will not stay put until i see you ask for forgiveness over every person you insulted on this thread, the staff works very hard for the players, they deserve better than that, and yet, try not to use a facade, that "goody guy" front you put up for others, that is bound to fall, just be yourself, that is very more fitting, I am one to know, since i stray very far from the concept of "model normal" guy, but I am proud of who I am and what I am, yet i feel you lost that to your ego a long time ago.
By the way, no matter your provocation, i intend not to have any post or word with you until you say you are sorry for calling names the staff, the judges and some players, and that goes for your friends too.

 

[NoPoke]

I would advise everyone to read Pete De Shaws post very carefully. And then to read it again. OP in Mexico is inherently difficult for POP.

I don't know a single TO who hasn't had tournaments go wrong on them. Who hasn't made mistakes. Who hasn't fallen short of POPs high standards at least once. The only people who don't make mistakes are the ones that don't do anything.

A 400+ player tournament is a very big deal to get right. You can just about guarantee that there are going to be problems.

[NANNY mode] Some of the accusations being made here are potentially libelous. It is probably only the age of the posters that is protecting them. [/NANNY mode]

Read Pete De Shaws post.

 

[Pablo]

hahaha Ives, your post made me laugh soooo hard, quite funny actually.

First off I apologized to Giordan, I heard he was involved but if he claims he isn't I will accept that.

Second you ALWAYS looked more into things that were not there. T.U.C.I was as real and formal as your tournament numbers so yeah you know it was definately not real. My 'anti Ives campaign'? That started only recently, I had already accepted the fact that you would continue to organize events here, and with the quality of States (D.F.) (other than there being no 2/3 for Top 8) and Nationals last year (superb event) I was quite happy with that fact other than some weird decisions such as number of swiss rounds and top cut to which we did ask of you several times to change and increase and playout the top cut for 2/3. Then the Gym Challenge came and you pull off the 2/3 with 4 prizes in Top 8, then come the CC's and you get locations only the store owner knew it was a store and you get people playing on the floor and car trunks, with of course no 2/3 for top 8. States come which are much better, except were we have to play in the burning sun in an open what was it? squash court? and when night comes you have your judges illuminating the games and players hands with their cellphones. Again not doing 2/3. And then finally comes the National fiasco where you use a new method which sounds very good BUT should have been announced way in advance because of that, you have assigned groups by none other than yourself and then you have the weird way to calculate tie breakers when a guy playing at table 3 doesnt pass where one at table 8 does.

And it is not that that bugs me most, it is the fact that you are stealing money from PUI every tournament except Nationals. Even if you are using that money to use it all at Nationals, it doesn't make you stealing right now does it? And now you're gonna deny it? or not even going to adress that? Remember the photos I was taking of the pairings at tournaments? they were not to remember who I played now where they? :wink: and they all fully show that your numbers don't match, why PUI has done nothing yet is beyond me.

You wont talk to me ever again? NOOOO I want to die!

Finally yes, I did help WeRo (Miguel Angel) share his views and discontent in a more fluent and as you call it elegant way, and he did post through my computer. Beign best friends it is to be expected for friends to support each other.

And final finally about my ban: No I did not think it was collusion, it was not only after I spoke with a PTO that I came to realize that and thus emailed Dave. That of course is not what you want PUI to think about, just like you invented I was using Wicho's POP ID to enter sanctioned tournaments, which isnt possible because he has not entered tournaments since States, and then Nats and Gym Challenge, so unless I disguised and you didnt catch the same person using the same POP ID at the Gym Challenge and also I cloned myself so you would see me in the corner doing nothing I don't think it happened. Or did it? did I disguise and get 2nd place losing to Bojo in the finals? LOL.

That alone just shows how much of a liar you are, and you made a huge flaw in that lie, you called me on entering tournaments under someone elses name where that person had not been to one since States, and I do not know how you phrased that to PUI, but with Wichos tournament record they can obviously see how off your story is and therefore see you are lying.

 

[SteveP]

"Don't pee-off someone because he is powerfull" is the wrong reasoning for me. It can be a good advice but it is not satisfying for me.
When someone is powerfull I think it good to stand up against him when he makes a lot of mistakes. Anyway it takes a lot of courage and I think that the people with that courage should be listened to and the fact mentionted by those people should be checked.
But I do want to say: don't pee-off someone because you think he is a bad person without really knowing. And even if you really know someone is a bad person try to minamalize the swearing.

If someone is powerful enough to say whether you can play at their tournament or not, then don't be surprised if they don't let you play if you publically humiliate them.

That's all I'm saying. Playing Pokemon at sanctioned tournaments is not some God-given or Constitutional right. It's a privilege that can be revoked.

 

[WeRo]

PABLO HELP ME WHIT MY FIRST POST

OK as my friend ives says *its so easy* if we mexicans do not give our opinion is because the lenguage berrier, even i dont speak good english getting back on our subjet we mexicans think talk in a place called *pokemex* which is obviusly manipulated by ives, this is my second post in *pokegym*but i will be more frecuently around, i wonder to know if there is somebody who talk good spanish to visit the followin adress : www.pokemex.com/foros. and by these means you will notice that many mexicans will tell the truth and you will seeall the irregularities around.
we are not 9 or 10 like ives tell you we are many many more, AND IF THE NUMBER OF PLAYERS HAS BEEN INCREASED IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF IVES, IT IS BECAUSE THE GAME IS VERY AMAZING AND ATRACTIVE.
about 75% of the mexicans players wants ives resigns.
we'd been complaint since many premier events ago, city championshiips, state championships and even in prerelease, we did it but we have a big problem in PUI is his word against the word of any other player and so he seems to be always right.
we complain about:
Ives lies about the number of participants. if there are 20 people he says that there wer 43 .
we complain about gym challenge 2005 he makes top 8 to 4 prizes 2 out of 3 games.
and in this year 2006 in de gym challenge only one game in top 8, we complain obout that from the 30 or 40 premier events in a year he assist only to 8 or 9, leaving hot qualified persons to manage these events.
we complain about the way he organize the events, about the scenario, the staff, the discriminatio he (ives) make to the people, i can give many examples of it but i just montionthis one: in Celaya town there was place for 12 people and we were about 30 some of us were playing in the street floor and some others over the car trunks.
and letme tell you something ives.
IF I DIDN'T QUALIFY TO TOP 32 IT WAS BACAUSE YOU GAVE ME ONLY LESS THAN 3 MINUTES TO BE AT MY TABLE.
nobody says any thing about the way you organize the events and at the end everything is a mistake and every body faults.
you said that* Im the only one that complainsbut i was not the only one that wasn't in my place at theright time, we were about 10 peoples who weren't en time out it was due to you bad organization, and you will see that with this complaint there will be many others in the next future.
in the independient tournaments organizated by yourself , they begin the round at any time and without any advise, when a tournament was in round 2 other was in round 5 and when a tournament was over other has troubles in round 3...where were you? i remember that in the problem in round 2 somebody has to go looking for you

NO QUIERO SER EL NUEVO PTO DE MEXICO
I ONLY WANT PLAY BECAUSE THE GAME LIKE ME:thumb: :thumb: okeball:

 

[Dañel]

the mexico national champ was a 400+ people tourney and the people that are complainin' about the event...yes are abour 10 people and even in mexican forums are like 20 and there are no barrier languaje there
FOR THE GOOD OF THE GAME STOP ATTACKIN PEOPLE AND OFFEND THEM SAYIN THINGS LIKE LIAR OR THIEF


THINK CLEAR THEN POST

 

[wicho_babas]

but the point is that you have been behind this the whole time, can you deny the fact that you were part of a group called "T.U.C.I." ? (spanish initials for a group whose name translates as everyone united against Ives)

TUCI wasn't real, it was just one of my bad jokes, the forum was so boring so I thougt that this coluld bring some fun, all the post where "Help with my deck, fire, water, pshyquic, grass"

TUCI LINK http://www.pokemex.com/foros/viewtopic.php?t=7710

Even I post TUCP (spanish initials that means everyone against Pablo)

TUCP LINK http://www.pokemex.com/foros/viewtopic.php?t=8454

This joke really worked :lol:

PD: Don't get mad, ok:thumb:

 

[SteveP]

The founders of America saw the danger of "factions" (small minorities that can have a significant voice). Factions often lose sight of the fact that they are a minority. I remember seeing a *** rally against the military and hearing protesters state that 75% of the military is ***, so is was discriminatory to have an anti-*** policy in the military.

(*** = gggaaayyy. come one mods, the g-word is not a bad word).

 

[Lawman]

If someone is powerful enough to say whether you can play at their tournament or not, then don't be surprised if they don't let you play if you publically humiliate them.

That's all I'm saying. Playing Pokemon at sanctioned tournaments is not some God-given or Constitutional right. It's a privilege that can be revoked.

Not trying to cast stones here SteveP, but if you are not on the banned/suspended player list, how exactly can a PTO keep you out of an "open tourney"??? As long as the player is in good standing w/ POP and hasn't done anything on site for that particular tourney, you better let them sign up to play! JMHO

Keith

 

[SD PokeMom]

It is, when 90+% of the usage of said word on the boards would be in a perjorative context...as in 'OMG that's so....!1!'

/*hijack

'mom

 

[SteveP]

Not trying to cast stones here SteveP, but if you are not on the banned/suspended player list, how exactly can a PTO keep you out of an "open tourney"??? As long as the player is in good standing w/ POP and hasn't done anything on site for that particular tourney, you better let them sign up to play! JMHO

Not if the PTO owns or rents the tournament premise, and he feels your presence at the tournament will be disruptive. If I were running an event and I knew a handful of players severly disliked how I ran tournaments, I'd be leery of letting them inside.

So yes, PTOs are facilitators for POP. Generally speaking, sanctioned tournaments are "open." However, PTOs have some leeway in preventing certain individuals from being on their premise. It's apparent to me that some of the Mexican players have the potential to cause disruption at POP tournaments organized by Ives. Ives himself has stated that he WON'T prevent players from attending his tournament if they publically "bad-mouth" him.

Even though the only "official" way to keep someone out of a tournament is because they're suspended or banned, that doesn't mean other reasons don't exist. All I'm saying is that it's naive to belittle those in power and expect no reprecussions.

We live in a society where public accusations (before the entire facts are known) is common practice. Look at the Duke lacrose players incident, or the Marine attack on civilian incident. I'm giving Ives the benefit of the doubt until the facts are known.

 

[Benlugia]

The founders of America saw the danger of "factions" (small minorities that can have a significant voice). Factions often lose sight of the fact that they are a minority. I remember seeing a *** rally against the military and hearing protesters state that 75% of the military is ***, so is was discriminatory to have an anti-*** policy in the military.

(*** = gggaaayyy. come one mods, the g-word is not a bad word).

just say homosexual. the "g" word isn't a bad word--people are just immature about it.
/bleh_hijack

 

[wicho_babas]

Well, I don´t wanted to mention this but I think that it's time to tell this:

Me, WeRo, etc. Where staff of Ives on a Team Rocket Return prerealese, this prerealese was in a comic expocition, and some of my jobs where to keep pablo away from one important man (I don't remember who) and If found Pablo taking pics of the prerealese, I had to get hm out from the place where the prerealese was set.

Maybe he was afraid to be busted inflaiting tournaments or something like that

(Im afraid that with this message maybe I say goodbye to the diference of my 300 dollars that they owe me)

 

[ryanvergel]

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