Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

My own website

Le sigh.

A T1 is an internet connection. You're gonna need REALLY strong internet if you're gonna be running a website. Your little residential line won't even cut it.

I told you, you need to buy the server, and the software for the server.

Please, other people similarly minded, post explaining why this won't work. You're trying to do waaaaaaaay too much. You're expecting a free lunch, or rather, for people to PAY you to take their lunch.

I won't be suprised to wake up and find this thread locked. And if not, best of luck to you. I advise using Google quite a bit. And reserving about a year to learn basic coding and software skills. If not more. Have fun~
 
crazypokemon said:
What equipment? and what is T1?
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If you have to ask these questions, you are not capable of building a quality site.

I think that is cabd's whole point.

You also have to ask yourself - what will you be doing that's different to what people can get already?

There are loads of TCG forums (Gym, Beach, 6P)

There's even an excellent (almost) no rules forum (HT)

Collectors have UPCC

VG players have German Koffing, Skarmbliss and Serebi

There are about a billion anime streaming sites where you can watch any Pokemon stuff you like

What can you offer that these sites don't already do? Especially with zero knowledge or experience.

You are being completely unrealistic about this, but like cabd, I don't feel like there's any point in continuing the discussion.
 
Well im trying to learn,you could explain a little better your telling me what i need as if i know what each thing does.

Also on your account it says you work with computers
i dont know if 2k-5k is true what you say for all i know you might wanna charge me to get the site up.

Im learning ok i just need a basic page for now,

I need more opinions...or opinons that dont tell me what to do but explain to me what each thing does and why it is the way it is.

Also why would it be locked,im trying to understand and learn ok.
 
Like I said, you are better off googling some specialist forums to get advice.

This is like going to a website design forum and asking for deck help.
 
And while you're at it, you can just walk in to Best Buy and ask them for their budget books. Dude, you're asking for stuff that is TOTALLY not appropriate for you to know. Here's where to start. Are you 18? If yes, proceed to local community college, enroll in programming classes. If not, Google, or wait until you're 18.

A good starting point for the hardware side is to enroll in the CCNA program from Cisco. But really, man, you need some dedicated classes to even START to attempt this kind of stuff.
 
you keep talking about designing up the site,im talking about the cost,not paying for someone to do something for me,i only want to pay for the stuff thats gonna make it all work.

theirs the stuff i gotta pay for and the stuff i gotta pay if if i dont know what im doing and need someone to do it for me.

just the stuff i gotta pay for regardless of my computer knowledge.

thats all i need to know is total to get started and keep runnign each month.
 
Yes, and that was provided to you. You NEED a T1, NEED a server, NEED the software, and NEED the domain name.
 
Great keep it simple mainly because i been awake for over 20 hours and my vision is blurry.
ok domain =godaddy
software= vbulletin (software is vbulletin right because thats what i plan on going with)
T1 is internet connection right?
what does T1 and server do?
Can you explain each role.
Im about to fall asleep been having trouble sleeping latley.
just wanna say thank you so much for helping me thus far.
 
T1: connects you to the internet with enough speed and room to allow lots of people to connect at once
server: holds the data of your website and sends it to people
 
Cabd's already got the technical issues with your posts covered. The biggest problem isn't that you aren't understanding his questions, it's that you aren't even attempting to understand. Say your math teacher tells you a new formula. When you have trouble, you look it up; you don't ask the teacher to give you all the answers, and you don't pay another student to do your work for you. (And if that's your answer then you don't have the dedication for it.) If you can't even go to Google and look up any of these questions, and none of them take longer than 30 seconds to look up, you're looking for the wrong hobby.

But like I said, Cabd got the technological flaws. So here I am asking you that if you don't know where to look up what T1 hardware is, where are you going to learn coding? And when you do find it, do you realize how long that will take you? Say you want to write a thesaurus in Hindi, but you don't speak a word of the language. So you say to yourself, "I'll just learn Hindi and make it." And even after spending ten years learning the language, and another five perfecting it and writing a thesaurus, there's already far more successful lines of thesauruses out there that no one wants to buy your Hindi-as-a-second-language set.

Now, you think you can run on donations. Lots of sites have donations, but look at any site that lists the donators. Some sites are the only ones of their kind, and offer exclusive translated info of news from Japan before most Japanese get the knowledge. I pulled up one that gets a lot of traffic, and it has exactly 10 donators, gathering only $122 from those people. This site has been around for over five years, so they aren't exactly new. Finding people willing to donate is rare.

Along with donators, think about this for a moment. Pokemon DVDs are available to buy. The manga is available to buy. Magazines are available to buy. Cards and scanners are available to buy, if you really want cards scans on your computer. You're offering it free, and these people are taking it for free. If they're so willing to get it for free, why do you assume everyone would jump at the chance to pay for it? What makes you so different that people who download terrabytes upon terrabytes of games, anime, and manga, would pay you to keep supplying it?

You sound like you're assuming that "only 300 people average visit the site at one time" means they don't like the site. But most people don't sit around all day on a forum. They check the forum, respond to the relevant interest posts, and then leave and check again later. When I'm bored, I don't think, "I'm going to refresh a random forum all day." I think "I'm going to draw, read, play a video game, or do anything but refresh a forum and wait for someone to post." I'm pretty sure I'm not alone there, either. Forums have low traffic because most people don't stay on them 24/7.

And, well, if you TL;DR'd this, you most definitely aren't up to running a site with forums and a chat box.
 
i know its a shot in the dark but i have netgear wifi is that any help at all in any of this or no?
Again i been awake for 20 hours everyday for the last few days,im going through alot of crap right now and my senses of thinking is far off.

i seen servers online for about $800
would a used one or refurbished one be ok or is it one of those things you have to buy new.
somethings i know you have to buy new is this one of them?

Also keep in mind im open minded to do something that has alot of chances in being an epic fail.
All i got in my life now is hope,detication,determination and a drive to succeed.

i know whats ahead of me and im trying anyway knowing i could fail.

Im going for BA this might help me in the future.
 
Baby Mario is completely right - your website has to have something which no other has.

You're not going to make much money from advertisements, especially if you do that through Google Adsense. You will probably turn over a small profit or break even, but you're not going to get enough to cover the time and energy that setting up a website needs.

My final advice is to have a look at Google Analytics. It will give you a code that you need to put onto each webpage, then you can see how many visitors you're getting a day, how they found your website, which pages are popular, what countries your viewers are from etc. It's so helpful in getting a website set up, and lets you see which areas need to be improved.
 
If it only takes 20 hours to make you too tired to think, this isn't the life you're looking for. Something common in computer work is that you will spend many nights sleepless, and you can't tell your teacher or boss that you're tired to do work. If your personal life and sleep schedules are too messed up to think, you aren't in the condition to learn how to make a site.

Refurbished servers will almost always break sooner than a new one, and new/refurbished rarely come with warranty. Once that thing breaks, you're out of luck, get a new one.

Really, you're openly telling us that you will throw away years of your life and thousands of dollars on something you know nothing about. Time and money that could be spent on furthering a career that you know something about. I'd believe that you know more about advanced entomology than computer code right now. Knowing what the Internet is isn't enough to know that a site called PokeGym probably doesn't have a high population of people who know this stuff off the tops of their heads. This isn't the movie world, where hope, dedication, and a head full of dreams will suddenly make you successful. In this world, if you fail at this, you probably literally have nothing left but hope, determination, and a name. And if you seriously have enough money to do this on a hobby and not care if it goes totally to waste, aren't there better ways to put the money to waste?
 
I said 20 hours a day for many days now ok,im going through personal issues and my state of mind is not where it should be.
Also im not working for a boss ok.You act like this is the career im triyng to get into.

Im a business major, this computer stuff can help but its not my major.

Also the people running the sites arent even awake 20 hours a day running gym( i dont think so anyway)

Also innocent you could have been a little nicer,that was kinda harsh dude.
 
The point isn't that your life is having trouble. If you're wanting to plan this now, then you can't plan it correctly if you can't think. And if you're looking for a distraction from life, you'll want a cheaper one that you can throw away more easily. And again, 20 hours a day for several days. Not something I'm new to, either. If you want computer knowledge, that should feel normal.

You're thinking that because this isn't a career, it won't be like work. You're wanting to run this. Alone. That's more work than most people. Pokemon is targeted at kids. This means that if you want chat and forums, you want people to moderate the language, images, and links. You also want to moderate alone. There's a reason the phrase "the mods must be asleep" exists, and it's something that makes people lose faith in a site. You have mods who work on different sleep schedules and time zones so that you don't have to worry about some teenager making vulgar threads at 5am.

And you've had almost three pages so far of people telling you this gently. Life is rough, and you've been worked into it. If you create a site, you will get hate mail, no exceptions, even if it's only a troll. It's something you often hear told to amateur writers who post stories online, with claims of wanting to be a professional. After sugar-coating it does nothing, you directly tell them how to improve. They tell you, "I'm not professional yet, this is my style, you're being mean." That's when you know they aren't ready. But I'm serious here. You don't sound like you understand how much time and money this will take, and your research is being done on a site where people discuss Pokemon. I can even link you to different sites to ask more people how to do this, like answers.microsoft (think Yahoo Answers, but it's Microsoft).
 
i said my site will have little to no rules so i wouldent even need to worry about somebody being bad and not following rules if i dont have any.

it will pretty much be a site where anything happens,all i will be doing besides making the site is up is add new thigs to the site and keep it updated.
 
crazypokemon said:
i said my site will have little to no rules so i wouldent even need to worry about somebody being bad and not following rules if i dont have any. it will pretty much be a site where anything happens,all i will be doing besides making the site is up is add new thigs to the site and keep it updated.
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Here the thing though . . .

If you are using Pokemon related stuff to attract people (including a lot of kids), and then you allow bad stuff on your site (I think we all know what that means). You are going to be in so much trouble.

I think I already know the answer to this question but . . . are you completely aware of COPPA and how to comply with it?

Apart from that, 'anything goes' sites tend to end up being the scum of the internet. Is THAT what you want?
 
I don't think I can mention what happens to sites with Pokemon and no rules without getting flagged. It's...not pretty, and Baby Mario said it best. But okay, you create a website advertising that this does what other Pokemon sites don't. You somehow get a hold of every single thing ever done by Pokemon, and somehow get news and leaks before Bulbapedia, Serebii, or bigger sites (otherwise no one will go to you for news). This massive conglomeration of Pokemon will attract kids.

But uh oh, the adults are talking about stuff not safe for children. And the images posted will haunt their nightmares for years. Along with odd adults and older teenage boys, you've got self-proclaimed "mature" preteens and younger teens, half of them speaking in broken Japanese learned from watching subtitled anime. Several adults tire of them, and those that don't stay to troll move back to no-rules sites where they can post more than Pokemon.

And man, if you think I'm harsh, ever read mail from an angry parent? I imagine getting a cease and desist for hosting the anime on such a sight isn't a heartwarming read, either.
 
crazypokemon said:
Smpratte how much did it cost you to start the upccc?
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Just to point out, he didn't start the UPCCC, I did.

And it didn't cost me anything, but there's a reason. I'm hosting the site on proboards, which means it's free, but it comes with the downsides that the site is covered in outside advertisements, the site name includes .proboards.com etc.
Also, any skins that the site has were made by members.

I looked into updates, it would cost me $14 a year to move the forum to non-proboards, which isn't much, but we'd also have to buy and host the domain name itself.
It would cost me $7 a month to remove the adverts, as long as I stay between 50,000 views a month. However the numbers you're talking about you'd be paying a couple of hundred a month.

And just remember, this is giving me almost no creativity on the site, I work around a pretty rigid system set up by proboards.
 
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