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I have had things stolen from me throughout the years from ex-friends, I thought I could trust them..
YGO is the worst, one thing I learned is:
Never ever let more then one person try to look through any of your cards, I learned this when i was 12.

And for anyone going to Worlds, if you ever need a tall scary guy to be a bodyguard I'm one pm away.. xD
 
So after Judging all day and just wanting to go down and do some trading this is how my night ended up. What an expensive night out with my boy Sniper.

OUCH!! Again, I doubt it was just a handfull that swiped enorumos amount of goods. If anyone was caught POLICE should be called and the crime prosecuted. "The guys who just had to give the stuff back, gets off way too easy, he/they should be in JAIL."

The team approach to thefts is oldest sort of organized crime. One or two distract, another walks off with the goods. Not a hard play book for criminals to follow, but it works.

I will say this, I have no DOUBT. NO DOUBT. That this stuff made its way straight to the venders and sold for Cash. The vendors have to act more responsible, dealing in stolen merchandise, they were pleading we can't stop it. Stolen or open from a pack, the cards generates the same amount of profit. It is just the stolen ones folks are more willing to SELL.
 
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OUCH!! Again, I doubt it was just a handfull that swiped enorumos amount of goods. If anyone was caught POLICE should be called and the crime prosecuted. "The guys who just had to give the stuff back, gets off way too easy, he/they should be in JAIL."

The team approach to thefts is oldest sort of organized crime. One or two distract, another walks off with the goods. Not a hard play book for criminals to follow, but it works.

I will say this, I have no DOUBT. NO DOUBT. That this stuff made its way straight to the venders and sold for Cash. The vendors have to act more responsible, dealing in stolen merchandise, they were pleading we can't stop it, . Stolen or open from a pack, the cards generates the same amount of profit. It is just the stolen ones folks are more willing to SELL.

And just how do you expect the vendors to know if the cards were stolen or the people payed them.? Do you want them to only buy cards from packs they watch being opened? That is the only way they would know for sure.

There is no excuse for stealing but it comes down to one thing.

If people pay attention to their cards the thief's will not have the opportunity to steal them. I let one person at a time check my cards. If i can't be there to watch them then they don't look at them. I have been involved in pokemon since it came to the states and have had one card stolen and that was from base set. Got the card back though. I was the one that gave the thief the opportunity to steal it. Does that give him the right to take it? NO
 
I had to buy 4 Donphans that were stolen from me, I couldn't get it out of my mind, that I was could be buying back the "unique" same cards that were stolen hours earlier.

Evil, I understand the issue, but the vender might saw a few folks "keep" coming in selling more and more stuff. (or maybe not, PURE speculation on my part) Don't get me wrong, I like the vendors at the Nationals, and I think they guys are not INTENTIONALLY in on the crime obviously. But they give the crooks an easy, EASY, why to "fence" their goods.

They could start taking peoples names and PHOTO ID who sell bulk items expensive cards that could have been stolen. The venders aren't cops, and they have enough to do, but dealing in stolen merchandise isn't what they should be doing also. But the ignorance defense isn't enough.

Again, what I said about them profiting is harsh, but it is going to be a part of there total buys and sells during the weekend, and when they do buy a $500 dollars of cars, to sell them for $1000. They need to realize that some like LUGIAS, "might be the victim". Worst is the folks that get there deck hijacked during the event. I heard a vender able to put together a replacement deck for someone in 10 minutes, that is the good.

I really want to stress, the venders at Nats were great, and the criminals are the ones we want to kick out.
 
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it's pretty sad and has happened to me twice(once in YGO, then when i was getting into this game some guy stole my AMU/Dusknoir deck, which was about the only stuff i owned at the time) I'm really trying to be better about watching my stuff, and even if i'm gone for just two seconds I'm always trying to just have a friend watch it for me. I think it's very sad, but it almost seems commonplace, I think the best solution is to just try to make sure you have a friend near by you, so that one of you can always leave for break or get food, etc. I also usually in my bag have at least one metal container that will make a sound if it's moved, so that i'll hear it, if someone tries to take it from me when i'm close. I also put extra effort in to making sure my deck isn't stolen, usually goes into my pocket or is just in my hand.

Also, to be fair Chris has been saying since like Cities/States that this is his last year of playing Pokemon, lol.
 
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There is no excuse for stealing but it comes down to one thing.

If people pay attention to their cards the thief's will not have the opportunity to steal them.

This, this, this, this, and oh yeah THIS.

Always ALWAYS know where your stuff is, folks. It doesn't matter what game: Pokemon, Magic, YGO, Tiddlywinks, whatever. It's not that hard.
 
Or you could always do what I do...

Bring nothing but the essentials. Deck and dice. That's it.

I leave everything else either in my hotel room or in my car.

Trading? What is that?
 
Thumbs up if you think they should just install live footage cameras during events!

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This, this, this, this, and oh yeah THIS.

Always ALWAYS know where your stuff is, folks. It doesn't matter what game: Pokemon, Magic, YGO, Tiddlywinks, whatever. It's not that hard.
Yep. except for the fact people make mistakes.
 
Dayum, so far nothing stolen from me with pokemon. But then again, i haven't gone to a big event yet.
But if I did, I wouldn't do it during the event. I usually only have cheap useless cards anyway, including my deck :p
Most Valubale card in my deck? Probably Collector or Cleffa (I know, amazingly epic hu?)
But regardless, I would do the same as Bullados: Just take essentials. Deck and Dice. Maybe my wallet for food >.> But who leaves a wallet out? :p
 
Hasn't happened to me. I carry all my stuff in 1 bag. My bag is always under the table when I'm playing.
If not, then I'm walking around wearing it.
 
There did seem to be more security standing around than usual but they weren't really walking around. They were just standing around and their presence wasn't really felt except in the hallway. Remembering St. Louis, security walked the main walkway in the event hall and had more official security-looking uniforms.
 
My girlfriend left her DonChamp deck in the play area and didn't notice until the start of the next round.
Someone brought it to lost and found.

Same thing happened with my mat.

I guess we got lucky.
 
My girlfriend left her DonChamp deck in the play area and didn't notice until the start of the next round.
Someone brought it to lost and found.

Same thing happened with my mat.

I guess we got lucky.
"lucky" tends to get used as against the odds so I hope you didn't get lucky in that sense and instead just ran into someone from the majority of honest people who would hand in abandoned decks etc to lost and found.
 
I am a Yugioh Player only,I have played in one Pokemon Tournament and I have an account on this site, because my little brother plays Pokemon. I live in the Tri-State Area in New York specifically, where thievery is the norm. I am Hispanic and have a troubled upbringing, but I have dealt with numerous people, different societies allowing for me to understand different groups of people. I point out this in case some of the things I write sound racy that in no means am I against any particular person. I just wanted to put this as an intro as a frame of reference for you.

For the people who have lost things, I feel your pain, but it should be a wake up call for everyone. We all have stereotypes and we should use it in making decisions regarding one's safety. If you see a group of minorities approaching you or you feel uncomfortable with a group of people surrounding you looking at your binder, just put it away and walk towards your friends. In the one tournament, I went to, the Pokemon players were to me no way intimidating. I recognized a few Pokemon players who also played Yugioh, who are known thieves in NY or associate with thieves on the daily. One of the thieves had tons of uxies unsleeved,Uxie Lv X's, etc. indicating these were probably stolen. He was with like two friends,so he couldn't really jump anyone effectively, but of course he can swipe a bag or two, or take a few cards when someone isn't looking. The problem is no one at that tournament paid any attention to that fact, the atmosphere at the tournament was lax. This is what all card games should be like, no fear of any violence towards you, but obviously there are always some bad apples seeking a few quick bucks.

Another thing, I noticed was that most of the players were white. Even though, I grew up in a poor neighborhood, I did attend a prep-all white High school, so I have dealt with both groups (preppy white kids and ghetto minorities). The one thing I do notice is that when a minority is being loud and boisterous, white kids tend to tense up in a situation. Even though kids that grew up in poorer upbringings, they are fairly knowledgeable in social settings, meaning they know how one is feeling. This is how they can steal from you, by surrounding you in a group asking you to see your binder, try to take cards out of your binder and put it on the table while you look at their stuff. You feel more inclined to abide by them in fear of them being louder. This isn't simply a race thing, it is all about one's confidence in themselves.

Typically Pokemon and Yugioh is played by people who aren't the most social individuals,hence how they started playing this game, since typically the social kids played the sports or went to the parties. Obviously, this isn't the case for everyone(I am not speaking narrow-minded), but this is the stereotype and some of the individuals fit the bill. If you are socially awkward, you tend to maintain that growth, so when put into awkward situations, those fears are quite evident. Another thing is you do not want to stir trouble with minorities. Society dictates that minorities must be treated differently to appease them, which I find is wrong. African Americans are raised to be proud of Black Power, while Whites tend to be proud of their specific heritage. White Power's connotation in society is seen as a hatred towards minorities, deeming it unacceptable. With this outlook on life, one doesn't want to stir trouble with minorities(who typically are the thieves at events). I have seen this happen at Neutral Ground, a famous New York gaming store which has closed down due to the numerous thievery cases as well as high rent, where a Hispanic male was accused of stealing by the White owner. The Hispanic male immediately made this a race issue, while the White owner told him to rest assured it was simply eye witness testimony. The White owner simply banned the individual instead of seeking any legal punishment, so the individual goes freely knowing he stole. The moral of the story is don't see things as a color, but see it for what it is. If you feel pressure, pressure them back; don't let anyone walk all over you.

Yugioh thievery is orchestrated. I do not know the Pokemon scene all too well, but from what it seems its just Catch and Go. Yugioh thieves, which I know most of the groups and their individuals, since they mostly reside in the Tri-State Area. They are in numbers, carry knives, and aren't afraid to fight to some degree. You have to understand that thieves are sly individuals, but aren't confident at all. There is a reason, why they go in groups, its because they aren't confident in their fighting if faced with retaliation. I travel to tournaments with four people mostly, but always with my best friend. Many people know of him as being a strong, loud black guy, who knows how to fight. No thief ever dares to steal from me or from him, because some have heard of the time when 14 guys tried to jump me and my three friends where two of the assailants were stabbed and one was put into jail. How do 14 people fail to rob 4 young teens? They can't really fight, hence why they just try to overwhelm you with numbers or carry weapons. This brings up another point, thieves are stupid. They live in the moment, not really thinking of the consequences. They think of how they can make a few bucks. Without really thinking about what if someone they try to rob has a weapon and threatens to use it on them. A case happened once in Neutral Ground, where a few young teens tried to rob a middle-aged man of his Yugioh cards since he carried an expensive Championship card worth $1500+. The man carries a licensed gun, so obviously he let them off the hook, but this shows that thieves aren't necessarily thinking of what if.

Now why is it so easy to steal in Pokemon? There are many easy targets. It is a lax environment, the player base isn't really aware of the presence of thieves, and they can't fight back. Thieves will not attack PokeMoms/PokeDads, because those are adults, but they will seek easier targets like Juniors/Seniors binders/decks/bags. Pokemon has young kids with competitive decks meaning they are expensive, so you steal one or two decks from easy targets you are looking at $200+ for nothing. Thieves don't see any wrong doing from stealing from a kid, because they are already stealing. They won't test individuals, who they feel can present a problem.

I am not saying only minorities steal, because some white players do steal, but the one group who tried to do it at 2008 Yugioh Nationals on a friend from Brooklyn, resulted in his group being outnumbered in a span of 2 minutes 20 vs 8 and one of them going to the hospital, after my friend thrashed him not knowing he was a football player and a boxer. Also thieves steal because they are lacking something. Minorities who do steal often grow up in poorer areas where money was a necessity, so instead of getting jobs and doing an honest living, might as well get a few quick bucks with little to no effort. White kids do not feel the need to steal, because they are often in middle to upper class, where money isn't a necessity all the time. Also different moral upbringings plays a role. My father is a deadbeat, my mother is in huge debt, so I am not given money by my family, but I do work for money or play Yugioh players for cards/cash . I try to obtain my money through just means, plus I use my money when needed. i do not feel the need to spend money on myself unless its out of necessity. Rap/Hip Hop culture dictates the need to gain money and acquire women and buy all that crap. Basically continuing the cycle of ignorance.

To conclude this post, pay attention to your stuff, be wary of individuals around you, use stereotypes to judge others when they are looking at your stuff, and do not be fearful if pressure challenge others.
 
The game is growing and with that comes an increased chance of theft. It's a sad fact but its true. Just be sure to be e,tra careful with all of your personal belongings.
 
Let me ask a serious question here.

If I'm at an event, let's say Nats or Worlds, and someone literally picks up my deck box and bolts for it. Would my running after him, and tackling him, or grabbing him, or some other way physically stopping him get me in trouble with Pokémon?

We're assuming I don't have time to report him, and he isn't going to let me talk to him. I witness him take my stuff and run. I take him down, subdue him and get my stuff back, or I let him get away.

Alternatively, he takes my stuff, I go talk to him, he says some profanity to me and walks away, am I in the right to take back my stuff?

Because obviously fighting is never the answer, and I'm not promoting fighting or violence but at the same time, if I walk away and tell a judge, "hey that guy took my stuff" how can I prove it? How can the judge in all honesty believe me over the other person. What’s to prove I'm not some guy trying to steal from another person by claiming something is mine. All the while he might just get away and I may never see him again.

Another situation, I yell thief, or somehow get a judge's attention as I bolt after him. Then take him down.

Because in all seriousness, if I watch someone steal from me, I won't walk away to report it while he gets away, and I'm sure as hell going to get my stuff back.

Also if he’s subdued, then he can then be handed over to the judges/security/official for them to deal with.

How would Pokémon rule this situation? Or would it be a very specific case-by-case basis? Food for thought.

Absoltrainer used tackle! Absoltrainer used takedown!

But seriously thats awful to here people do that. Just put a lock on your bag and put the stuff your not using in it. Also I here that YGO people are alot worse when it comes to stealing. The store owners at dream wizards think it too.
 
I am a Yugioh Player only,I have played in one Pokemon Tournament and I have an account on this site, because my little brother plays Pokemon. I live in the Tri-State Area in New York specifically, where thievery is the norm. I am Hispanic and have a troubled upbringing, but I have dealt with numerous people, different societies allowing for me to understand different groups of people. I point out this in case some of the things I write sound racy that in no means am I against any particular person. I just wanted to put this as an intro as a frame of reference for you.

For the people who have lost things, I feel your pain, but it should be a wake up call for everyone. We all have stereotypes and we should use it in making decisions regarding one's safety. If you see a group of minorities approaching you or you feel uncomfortable with a group of people surrounding you looking at your binder, just put it away and walk towards your friends. In the one tournament, I went to, the Pokemon players were to me no way intimidating. I recognized a few Pokemon players who also played Yugioh, who are known thieves in NY or associate with thieves on the daily. One of the thieves had tons of uxies unsleeved,Uxie Lv X's, etc. indicating these were probably stolen. He was with like two friends,so he couldn't really jump anyone effectively, but of course he can swipe a bag or two, or take a few cards when someone isn't looking. The problem is no one at that tournament paid any attention to that fact, the atmosphere at the tournament was lax. This is what all card games should be like, no fear of any violence towards you, but obviously there are always some bad apples seeking a few quick bucks.

Another thing, I noticed was that most of the players were white. Even though, I grew up in a poor neighborhood, I did attend a prep-all white High school, so I have dealt with both groups (preppy white kids and ghetto minorities). The one thing I do notice is that when a minority is being loud and boisterous, white kids tend to tense up in a situation. Even though kids that grew up in poorer upbringings, they are fairly knowledgeable in social settings, meaning they know how one is feeling. This is how they can steal from you, by surrounding you in a group asking you to see your binder, try to take cards out of your binder and put it on the table while you look at their stuff. You feel more inclined to abide by them in fear of them being louder. This isn't simply a race thing, it is all about one's confidence in themselves.

Typically Pokemon and Yugioh is played by people who aren't the most social individuals,hence how they started playing this game, since typically the social kids played the sports or went to the parties. Obviously, this isn't the case for everyone(I am not speaking narrow-minded), but this is the stereotype and some of the individuals fit the bill. If you are socially awkward, you tend to maintain that growth, so when put into awkward situations, those fears are quite evident. Another thing is you do not want to stir trouble with minorities. Society dictates that minorities must be treated differently to appease them, which I find is wrong. African Americans are raised to be proud of Black Power, while Whites tend to be proud of their specific heritage. White Power's connotation in society is seen as a hatred towards minorities, deeming it unacceptable. With this outlook on life, one doesn't want to stir trouble with minorities(who typically are the thieves at events). I have seen this happen at Neutral Ground, a famous New York gaming store which has closed down due to the numerous thievery cases as well as high rent, where a Hispanic male was accused of stealing by the White owner. The Hispanic male immediately made this a race issue, while the White owner told him to rest assured it was simply eye witness testimony. The White owner simply banned the individual instead of seeking any legal punishment, so the individual goes freely knowing he stole. The moral of the story is don't see things as a color, but see it for what it is. If you feel pressure, pressure them back; don't let anyone walk all over you.

Yugioh thievery is orchestrated. I do not know the Pokemon scene all too well, but from what it seems its just Catch and Go. Yugioh thieves, which I know most of the groups and their individuals, since they mostly reside in the Tri-State Area. They are in numbers, carry knives, and aren't afraid to fight to some degree. You have to understand that thieves are sly individuals, but aren't confident at all. There is a reason, why they go in groups, its because they aren't confident in their fighting if faced with retaliation. I travel to tournaments with four people mostly, but always with my best friend. Many people know of him as being a strong, loud black guy, who knows how to fight. No thief ever dares to steal from me or from him, because some have heard of the time when 14 guys tried to jump me and my three friends where two of the assailants were stabbed and one was put into jail. How do 14 people fail to rob 4 young teens? They can't really fight, hence why they just try to overwhelm you with numbers or carry weapons. This brings up another point, thieves are stupid. They live in the moment, not really thinking of the consequences. They think of how they can make a few bucks. Without really thinking about what if someone they try to rob has a weapon and threatens to use it on them. A case happened once in Neutral Ground, where a few young teens tried to rob a middle-aged man of his Yugioh cards since he carried an expensive Championship card worth $1500+. The man carries a licensed gun, so obviously he let them off the hook, but this shows that thieves aren't necessarily thinking of what if.

Now why is it so easy to steal in Pokemon? There are many easy targets. It is a lax environment, the player base isn't really aware of the presence of thieves, and they can't fight back. Thieves will not attack PokeMoms/PokeDads, because those are adults, but they will seek easier targets like Juniors/Seniors binders/decks/bags. Pokemon has young kids with competitive decks meaning they are expensive, so you steal one or two decks from easy targets you are looking at $200+ for nothing. Thieves don't see any wrong doing from stealing from a kid, because they are already stealing. They won't test individuals, who they feel can present a problem.

I am not saying only minorities steal, because some white players do steal, but the one group who tried to do it at 2008 Yugioh Nationals on a friend from Brooklyn, resulted in his group being outnumbered in a span of 2 minutes 20 vs 8 and one of them going to the hospital, after my friend thrashed him not knowing he was a football player and a boxer. Also thieves steal because they are lacking something. Minorities who do steal often grow up in poorer areas where money was a necessity, so instead of getting jobs and doing an honest living, might as well get a few quick bucks with little to no effort. White kids do not feel the need to steal, because they are often in middle to upper class, where money isn't a necessity all the time. Also different moral upbringings plays a role. My father is a deadbeat, my mother is in huge debt, so I am not given money by my family, but I do work for money or play Yugioh players for cards/cash . I try to obtain my money through just means, plus I use my money when needed. i do not feel the need to spend money on myself unless its out of necessity. Rap/Hip Hop culture dictates the need to gain money and acquire women and buy all that crap. Basically continuing the cycle of ignorance.

To conclude this post, pay attention to your stuff, be wary of individuals around you, use stereotypes to judge others when they are looking at your stuff, and do not be fearful if pressure challenge others.

I've grown up with minorities, and it doesn't matter what race you are. If you're a terrible person, you're gonna steal; no matter if you're white, black green or blue.

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Every Tournament I go to I make sure I have some one who I can trust watch my stuff when I am playing. I had friends have stuff stolen and I even almost had stuff stolen once at a YGO tournament. I know how it can be. I also have something a lot of people do not have normal stashed away to help me. A compleat list of ever item I have one me (and when I mean ever items I mean ever card also listed. I started this when a freind of my had stuff stolen at Gen Con a few years back)
 
"lucky" tends to get used as against the odds so I hope you didn't get lucky in that sense and instead just ran into someone from the majority of honest people who would hand in abandoned decks etc to lost and found.


thats exactly what i mean. there are alot of people out there that would take decks. i think it has a lower chance of happening at nationals though than at a smaller, more local tournament.
 
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