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This image is nothing more than a depiction of "Pokemon gone wild," rebelling against their trainer using the elements that they have at their disposal. Children tantrum and kick and hit and spit; Chikorita happens to use vines to cause mischief or express itself. Pokemon aren't people, and it would be pushing it to claim that they were capable of sadism any more than an animal would be. Perhaps this image would be easier swallowed by the offended parties if this trainer was shown in an "aftermath" image, smiling, reconciled with her rascally, ultimately harmless little Pokemon, all of whom would be grinning and rubbing against her affectionately.

If an individual wants to see bondage or sadism or debasing perversion in this image, then they can, but that doesn't mean that the image was constructed under the influence of or with the intent to evoke any of those things. Perception and the subconscious are both powerful tools for transforming one thing into another, and adding dimensions and undertones that are not actually present.
 
I'm sorry, but all I can do is lawl at this. The internet is full of porn, violence, and drug paraphernalia and you're complaining about a minimally violent image depicting Pokémon "attacking" a young girl.

I don't mean to be offensive, but maybe you should take a look at your priorities and see the bigger picture. The internet has a lot worse to offer than this.
 
Notice how nobody 12- is posting on this, I agree with many people on the picture. In my school library last year in elementer (yes I'm in 6th grade) many times even in lower grades we saw worse things. What I'm saying is
that its only natural for childrean to see something like this, in my 4th grade summer reading it talked about death & blood.

From a child to adults.

Mark out.
 
@ skitty, what kids saves a picture/right click.

Serioiously I really don't see any blood.
it looks like totodiles tougue :/

btw POKéMON anime is rated y7. for some animated violence (CN).
used to be Y on WB.
 
butlerforhire said:
If an individual wants to see bondage or sadism or debasing perversion in this image, then they can, but that doesn't mean that the image was constructed under the influence of or with the intent to evoke any of those things. Perception and the subconscious are both powerful tools for transforming one thing into another, and adding dimensions and undertones that are not actually present.
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Note that if you were to find, say, 10 fanart images of a Pokémon using Vine Whip against a female character, about 8 of them would be sexually explicit, one would be heavily implied as sexual, and the last would be the one WPM has on his site right now. Context is everything, and putting up fanart on your site brings you down from the level of a reliable news site to a common fan site that suffers all of the tropes they are (in)famous for suffering from.


Also, for everyone going on and on about the tongue/blood, WPM himself says on his website that it's blood. I think it's a moot point because it's mediocre and not well done so it hardly has the chance to be offensive; personally I'm arguing it's ****** and snarky fanart that has no business on a site of his reputation.
 
ArrEmmDee said:
Note that if you were to find, say, 10 fanart images of a Pokémon using Vine Whip against a female character, about 8 of them would be sexually explicit, one would be heavily implied as sexual, and the last would be the one WPM has on his site right now. Context is everything, and putting up fanart on your site brings you down from the level of a reliable news site to a common fan site that suffers all of the tropes they are (in)famous for suffering from.
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and I suppose every time the move Flamethrower is used, it has militaristic pro-war undertones? and the move Explosion promotes the idea of suicide-bombings? (and better yet, if those moves are seen being used against a female, I'm sure it automatically promotes misogyny) you're faulting a move because of it's very nature. that's ridiculous. the girl in the fan art isn't even dressed in a sensually explicit way. and when you say, "10 fanart images of a pokemon using Vine Whip against a female character" you're already damning the argument in your favour from the get-go because as anyone can see, any image of vine whip against a female has bondage undertones. according to you. but if we have a pokemon using vine whip against another pokemon, or even a male character, nope, it's not bondage anymore. hm, I don't smell a double-standard.

like someone mentioned earlier, see what you want
 
Wikipedia said:
In vertebrates, it is composed of blood cells suspended in a liquid called blood plasma. Plasma, which comprises 55% of blood fluid, is mostly water (90% by volume),[1] and contains dissolved proteins, glucose, mineral ions, hormones, carbon dioxide (plasma being the main medium for excretory product transportation), platelets and blood cells themselves.
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Why is this scary? I mean... if you're scared of kids seeing blood, you should also be scared of kids seeing saliva and sweat. Seriously, who cares? Kids bleed a lot anyways. Their skins are very fragile. They often see blood much before you see them seeing blood <.<

Secondly, Jon gets 0 credit for the banner. He simply added the blood. If you have major problems, contact the lead banner maker-Xous (pronounced Z-house with the h silent)
 
Water Pokemon Master said:
overreaction
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I didn't realize constructive criticism entitled you to an ad hominem attack. I think your website is wonderful and you're an effective site administrator and I recommend Pokébeach over all other Pokémon sites when the discussion comes up, so don't take me for some common troll or pointless antagonist. I just think what you're doing with the banner at the moment is extremely inconsistent with your website as a whole and calls more attention to the amateur nature of the site, when at all other times it's a pretty sleek and professional website.

EDIT: @willtopower You're missing the point I made of the banner's nature lowering the site into the context of Pokémon fanart on the internet. When you associate it with that sort of content, you also associate with the theme and ideas of that content, and much of the themes and idea of the more shall we say 'crude' fanart has a very clear sexual nature to it.
 
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Ok, let's recap.

1. Somebody didn't like the graphic at Pokebeach.
2. Ok.

Nothing to see here. Move along...
 
Here is the "clean" version of my post since the first one was apparently too mean and had to be deleted. -_-

ArrEmmDee said:
Context is everything, and putting up fanart on your site brings you down from the level of a reliable news site to a common fan site that suffers all of the tropes they are (in)famous for suffering from.
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Reliability? Oh yes, fan art = unprofessionalism, lack of quality news stories, and a whole slue of negative connotations. Give me a break. We're the only fansite that even goes through hours of trouble to put a banner together in the first place, and I would say they are absolutely beautiful. I don't see how fanart = what you stated - in fact, I would argue it shows that a website IS professional and goes out of their way to even make the layout look nice.

If people have a problem, which some obviously do, then don't visit the site. I don't get paid (much) for it, and until I do, you'll just have to deal with what's on the site or leave. I don't waste hours of my day working on my site so people like you can come along and argue about the stupidest things. I can't believe I'm even wasting my time addressing such an inane issue. People are dying all over the world from unnecessary wars and genocides - other people are suffering from natural disasters. In my own small life I'm dealing with moving back to school on a limited budget, a friend who has alcohol problems, my grandma's death, and a bunch of other serious personal problems and you're coming to me arguing about THIS? There are so much more important things in life. Blood in a Pokeman banner isn't one of them.

It's just a PICTURE. With a tiny, tiny bit of red liquid that is INSIDE YOUR BODY AND PRETTY MUCH EVERY OTHER MAMMAL'S. Oooohooohooo - blooood... you better run! God forbid any innocent child ever see some! Keep it up and I'll really show you what blood is. :p
 
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Wow... grow up. You do realize what Pokemon is about right? Capturing Pokemon in order to have the Pokemon FIGHT EACHOTHER. Yes, there are some people in the anime that have Pokemon as pets, but we do the same thing with dogs, cats, etc.
 
this is just to funny to sit back and read:lol:


Genocide in Africa, but we can't have a cartoon with red (#990000 in hexadecimal btw) pixels on our screens... (shutters)


you guys are arguing about multicolored pixels on an LCD screen. Think about that one for a second.


:lol:...just...yea...:lol:
 
Water Pokemon Master said:
Reliability? Oh yes, fan art = unprofessionalism, lack of quality news stories, and a whole slue of negative connotations. Give me a break. We're the only fansite that even goes through hours of trouble to put a banner together in the first place, and I would say they are absolutely beautiful. I don't see how fanart = what you stated - in fact, I would argue it shows that a website IS professional and goes out of their way to even make the layout look nice.
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I disagree with you overall in that the fanart is somewhat amateurish for the purposes of a news website, and I think it's not quite as well-defined a visual identity as some other sites. But you apparently have no interest in doing away with fanart entirely, which on some level is understandable.

However, when you move from simple fanart like you've had in the past to this sort of fanart that has a 'point' to it, and a point not everyone will agree with, then you're shifting from a pleasant visual identity to making a statement, whether or not it's a very strong statement and whether or not you think you're making one. You stand nothing to gain from it, and have had to contend with both people who take offense and people who find it annoying.

When what you feel is an insignificant banner is distracting from the point of your news site - that is, news, the best choice would be to modify it because under no circumstance should you want viewers to be distracted from the point of your site. I don't understand why this has touched a nerve with you, but it just seems really elementary to me.
 
ArrEmmDee said:
I don't understand why this has touched a nerve with you, but it just seems really elementary to me.
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I think this quote, which you are applying to my astonishment of this thread and people being offended, actually applies to this whole thread. That is my response to you.

I will not be changing the banner. This thread is pointless. The fact that three or four people out of thousands are offended will not get me to do anything. There will always be someone offended at something - that doesn't mean we should change our ways for them.
 
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