Well here goes, this is the basis of my actions in the last couple of days or so.
I attempted to get the mace like crap. I was the wolf who each time was the second person to go after it. Then for a reason unknown to me, cardz decided to make the mace be a post, which effectively killed my ability to get it, because DarthPika everyone knew was a townie, and if anyone was thinking, it was clear a wolf was going after the mace. That killed me, because I could not get it.
I also do not understand having a role that is as ridicoulous as DP's. It is a bit unfair for the game imo. The wolves started out with only four people, yet there were two mason groups, a dracula that could add people to his mason group, a town-aligned vigilante that also had a mace, two seers, a priest, and a guy with a pyrite spellbomb. To add to this mix a townie that cannot be hit with any killing night role the first time, and even after that all night roles miss 80% of the time is a bit unbalanced.
Lastly, I think it was also unfair that the "amazing power" that wolves got from killing dracula was a measly double kill, once. Especially considering that because of the stupid chandelier, which was beyond the control of the wolves, made it where if we used the double kill, one of us would die, because traversing the chandelier was so "tough" that a wolf would die from exhaustion. Thusly, our amazing power was to be able to trade a wolf for an extra night kill...once. Which if anyone does the math, 4 wolves to 19 townies, is never a good deal....ever.
Thank you for giving me props on my debating ability Lil_Magma, I was attempting to unleash on you, because I expected a 1v1, Wolf vs Townie to be an autowin like the game says it is. I am glad that some people here can be humble. I knew that if I killed you in the lynch, then I could kill blackSpade, and assumed that even if the 1v1 was at night I would be fine. I also knew that the friar carl's ball was an undead killing thing, so I assumed that it would not kill lycanthropes, which are not,
not in any way undead. I had done my reasearch on the Van Helsing movie and from the moment it was dropped, knew exactly what it was. Heat and Light don't kill werewolves... Silver bullets do, and possibly silver maces.
Some interesting PM's:
This is me pointing out to Mew* that the way that cardz worded his post when he removed the chandelier meant that it would return at the next day, meaning that necessarily it was not in effect that night.
Mew* said:
You have any opinion who to night kill tonight? And don't forget if we figure out how to move that chandelier... 2 kills.
I want Darth Pika dead so bad, but he supposedly has that ability. I think we should go with pikamaster since he's Darth Pika's brother and might have a connection in the game, who knows if one dies the other may since we haven't see that yet his game. I don't think I ever saw the two vote for one another.
Ikrit said:
Wait Do NOT SEND IN KILL YET.
Cardz in his post said that the chandelier is gone for today/ will return the next game day. Therefore, we might be able to use our extra kill tonight without repercussions. I am going to PM him about this. You should too.
Which if he had stuck to the wording he used, we would have been able to get a double kill, resulting in our win.
This is one where I ask questions about our double kill, which the original reason why one of us would die was that the town would find one of us over the body.
Ikrit said:
First of all, you stated that the reason why a wolf would die if the double kill was used was that the townies would find one of the wolfs at the end of the night, crouched over the body of the kill. However, why would one townie be able to kill one wolf in a one on one, if the night kill was used? Wouldn't attempting the double kill instead garner a win scenario for the last remaining wolf?
Secondly, would it be possible for me to use our double kill on the same person? Aka would it be plausible for me to target DarthPika for a night kill twice? Meaning that then I would attempt to kill him twice tonight? If this is possible, would that cause me to be killed by the sole remaining member of the town, or would that result in a win scenario? Namely, what does it matter if BlackSpade found me over the body? Wouldn't a one-on-one, wolf-vs-townie, be the definition of a wolf win?
He also denied this request, which would have given the wolves a 1/5 chance of winning regardless of Pika's role.
Good Game All.
