Preleases running out of Promos
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Otaku
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Did you just refuse to read my posts a few above this????PTOs CANNOT give extra packs to winners of an age group!!!
Keith
Did you not read my post? :lol:
I was addressing a very specific aspect of P_A's post; why would it be so bad to give out just a token extra pack? I was operating under the hypothetical of it being a change to the rules (since if you're breaking the rules anyway, why care?).
I took this as an opportunity to emphasize why the original Pre-Release prize structure was abandoned; while most enjoyable to win extra packs (even if just a few), there are enough players who either only behave because there is nothing worth misbehaving to obtain, or who do want to behave but pursuit of even a small tangible prize would tempt into becoming overly competitive and "bending" if not flat out breaking other rules.
In short, I was underlining why the rules are what they are, and encouraging PTOs to do the obvious; follow the guidelines.
That clear things up?:thumb:
The prerelease I went to today didn't quite run out, but the one tomorrow (by the same TO) might. There were supplies ordered for 45 players, the shop sits 66, and 80 players showed up. The amount of boosters seemed to be okay, but the TO was asking if anyone wanted to swap their promo box and card (still would keep the two boosters) for an additional booster. From what I was told, tomorrow's event is usually very large, and they might have to turn down players (supplies left can only suffice for about 60 people).
I don't know why, but there seems to be a lot of attention for this set. There were 31 new players at the event today. I mean, it wasn't as heavily promoted on Pokemon.com as it usually is (the set, yes, but not prerelease specifically).
I don't know why, but there seems to be a lot of attention for this set. There were 31 new players at the event today. I mean, it wasn't as heavily promoted on Pokemon.com as it usually is (the set, yes, but not prerelease specifically).
homeofmew
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*blink* I have no idea what area you live in but personally I haven't ran into this issue at all anywhere. I know PTOs they to order what they think they will get for their pre releases. I also know that pre releases in my area were basically sold out. (which rarely happens). But any normal person would go off an average what they had in the past year of pre releases. I am assuming your PTO does that.
You should be glad Pokemon is giving out rare promos, they used to give out uncommon at pre releases. This changed I think in HGSS.
But the promos are given out first come first serve, while supplies last.
I would be more mad if I didn't get my last 2 packs.
If you really want a promo I'll give you one of mine because I have 2 :/
You should be glad Pokemon is giving out rare promos, they used to give out uncommon at pre releases. This changed I think in HGSS.
But the promos are given out first come first serve, while supplies last.
I would be more mad if I didn't get my last 2 packs.
If you really want a promo I'll give you one of mine because I have 2 :/
ShadowCard
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All of the "extras" are first come first serve. That would include the 2 additional packs. You are only getting the 6 boosters for the amount paid. Everything else is promotional product.
That is not true. The only things that are "While Supplies Last" are the deck box and the promo card. The two packs are included in the price you pay.
NoPoke
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well strictly the two extra boosters are a participation award so not quite what you are buying with your entry fee, which is the six packs only. But why anyone would want to buy six packs and then leave without participating is beyond me.
shadowcard is incorrect to say that the two boosters are first come first served.
shadowcard is incorrect to say that the two boosters are first come first served.
ShadowCard
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After checking the website, the additional packs are treated differently than the other promotional items and are without the "while supplies last."
NoPoke is correct, they should not be thought of as included in the admission price.
NoPoke is correct, they should not be thought of as included in the admission price.
Otaku
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Unfortunately a necessity given how many players are. This was why we had a thread a while ago where, after much useless bickering, the thought was it would be best (from our vantage point - the fact that it doesn't exist may be proof that from TPCi's standpoint it would be a waste of time and resources) to have both "Pre-Releases" and "Sneak Peaks".
The former being what we all know and love, the latter being useful as a reward for stores that aren't a viable tournament venue and fans who are just wanting to collect. You come, get some packs before they are street legal, and if the location wants to set-up a simple pre-release (or just has a game area for people to play), that's fine.
The former being what we all know and love, the latter being useful as a reward for stores that aren't a viable tournament venue and fans who are just wanting to collect. You come, get some packs before they are street legal, and if the location wants to set-up a simple pre-release (or just has a game area for people to play), that's fine.
r3skyline
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sometimes people dont always have the option to stay. if other things are going on, and a family needs to go because of prior arrangements, then they should still obtain the extra packs.
my work causes me to have little time to spend and id rather take my son to an event, have an hour or so of fun, and then continue on with our day doing other fun stuff. not sit around a smelly room being bored a lot of the time waiting for rounds to finish and whatnot.
SomethingElse
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I'm sure if you talked to the PTO/TO before the tournament, and explained your situation like this they would be more then willing to assist you. It's mainly to deter players from showing up, buying packs, and leaving.
Possibly, if it were a good reason.
This would not be a good reason.
Today we ran out of product for the participation packs in the last Prerelease that our local PTO ran. Here is the difference from what I have seen in other posts. He explained up front with an announcement letting everyone know; he then provided an option which made the event successful and fun to everyone. The players seem to all enjoy themselves including the ~30 new POPID’ed players attending their first Pokémon event.
The PTO and I spoke between rounds and he said he ordered extra for this set but the numbers were significantly higher than even he expected. Seeing what I did today, it is possible to make everyone happy in the event of low product. It takes a PTO who can think quickly out of the box to find a solution. Both my son and I had a nice day enjoying playing Pokémon.
The PTO and I spoke between rounds and he said he ordered extra for this set but the numbers were significantly higher than even he expected. Seeing what I did today, it is possible to make everyone happy in the event of low product. It takes a PTO who can think quickly out of the box to find a solution. Both my son and I had a nice day enjoying playing Pokémon.
homeofmew
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I don't know what the rules are for getting the 2 packs, but I always play all 3 rounds.
UnpokemonMom
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We attended our very first prerelease on July 29th. They initially said that Masters had to play 7 rounds, then they changed it to 5 rounds. I thought that was the standard approach until this past weekend; both prereleases only had 3 rounds.
pokeMATHter
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PTOs are required to run at least 3 rounds at prereleases, but if attendance warrants, they can run more.
My wife and I have been running more towards the 3 rounds lately at the tournaments we run in Washington. The main reason is because most of our tournaments are on Sundays, and stores tend to close earlier on Sundays. Players in our area expect a draft after the prerelease as well, and we give prizes to the top finishers in the draft. In order to find the top finishers, we have to run the full number of rounds in the draft, and when we ran the full number of rounds in the prerelease, we ran into the closing time of the store.
Also with a three round tournament, you can more accurately predict the ending time of the tournament. You can tell parents right from the start of registration that the prerelease will end about 1 PM, so they can more easily schedule their afternoon/evening.
UnpokemonMom
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It was our first prerelease, so I just thought everything was standard. There were over 100 people in attendance (again, thought this is the norm) and while registration started at 10am, the cards weren't distributed until about 11:30am. Playing 5 rounds, we went until 3pm.
I can certainly understand doing more than 3 rounds if there are prizes for the winners, but if there are no prizes for winning (we did receive the 2 additional packs after turning in our energies) then I might have questioned playing 5 games. And no, this has nothing to do with me going 1-4! :lol:
I'm just happy to learn the game and not majorly mess up. My kids are having fun, I'm maintaining, and all is good. :thumb:
I guess you could say that "standard" is playing it out for the full amount of rounds.
Many PTOs (including myself) have moved to the "non-standard" model of only running 3 rounds for a prerelease regardless of the number of attendees. Since no prizes are on the line, it has been deemed acceptable to do that. But it is not standard.
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