jkwarrior
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And really humble too :smile:
The arrogance in your post alone puts you below the 99.9% mark you claim.
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And really humble too :smile:
The arrogance in your post alone puts you below the 99.9% mark you claim.
Dr. Mason
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Call me an America hater or whatever you like(once your own father issues you that label, you really can't top it), but I agree ompletely with this stateent. When was the last time our country did anything to deserve any praise. The rest of the world is absolutely ticked off at us right now, and we deserve it. And it is their business. We ended our policy of isolationism the moment we entered World War I. We are a world now. And Ameica is one of the most influential powers in it--and we're giving a terrible example. I have friends in Germany, they watch shows like Desperate Housewives and think that's what Americans all act like. We haven't done anything to deserve anyone's approval.
Alazor
Active Member
"Call me an America hater or whatever you like(once your own father issues you that label, you really can't top it), but I agree ompletely with this stateent. When was the last time our country did anything to deserve any praise. The rest of the world is absolutely ticked off at us right now, and we deserve it. And it is their business. We ended our policy of isolationism the moment we entered World War I. We are a world now. And Ameica is one of the most influential powers in it--and we're giving a terrible example. I have friends in Germany, they watch shows like Desperate Housewives and think that's what Americans all act like. We haven't done anything to deserve anyone's approval."
It is true that we are what we represent. If you guys don't mind... I'll start a new thread if we're swerving too off topic here.....
It is true that we are what we represent. If you guys don't mind... I'll start a new thread if we're swerving too off topic here.....
PokemansForGeeks
New Member
You're welcome =P
Boofu
Member
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-doners-of-foreigner-aid-map.html
While the total amount of giving from the United States is the highest in the world, Per Capita giving is low, but it also doesn't count things like military spending that is being used for foreign aid. For example, using aircraft carriers as floating hospitals, which can feed thousands, can use the nuclear power to provide electricity, it can hold hundreds for shelter (http://www.theage.com.au/news/Asia-...head-aid-effort/2004/12/31/1104344979189.html).
We take action, even unilaterally, to counterbalance threats from rogue nations / terrorism / destabilizing forces. I believe that the United States is a force for good in this world. Other nations benefit from our protection, yet they criticize the way we deliver it. :nonono:
We host the United Nations, which is full of Anti-American rhetoric, and people that criticize and try to stifle our efforts to advance our own national security. However, we still give them a voice on our own soil.
To say that we don't deserve approval is pretty low, especially as a people.
vaporeon
Moderator
I've seen a lot of topic like this and I just want to know why you all still support McCain even after he said he agrees with Bush 90% of the time. You do know if he wins, the US WILL go into a resession or depression. You all do know its not a good time to be a Republican?
Its like all of you are making is seem like Obama is the bad guy in this election. Saying everything McCain WILL do and everything Obama WILL NOT do.
If you are going to post something such as this, provide GOOD links to your information and talk about both parties. Not what one person you are/would vote for are going to do and what the opposing are not going to do. Its like they are all bash Obama threads and vote for McCain.
Yeah both parties lie and have their own view on what should be what but, when its all said and done, who you you want in office, someone who WILL do what they say or someone because you 'felt' like you had to because of they way you were raised and don't say something like "I have to vote for McCain" because no one can pick for you. Just what are these thread trying to prove. We all know, by current polls and other sources that Obama will win and most of you Republican can't handle that or the fact that a well, black person will be the leader of the US. Just tell me, if McCain was winning, would we be seeing these 'support McCain' threads?
On a second note, I think that politic is also something we should not talk about here as well because of ...well you know, how it turns people.
Its like all of you are making is seem like Obama is the bad guy in this election. Saying everything McCain WILL do and everything Obama WILL NOT do.
If you are going to post something such as this, provide GOOD links to your information and talk about both parties. Not what one person you are/would vote for are going to do and what the opposing are not going to do. Its like they are all bash Obama threads and vote for McCain.
Yeah both parties lie and have their own view on what should be what but, when its all said and done, who you you want in office, someone who WILL do what they say or someone because you 'felt' like you had to because of they way you were raised and don't say something like "I have to vote for McCain" because no one can pick for you. Just what are these thread trying to prove. We all know, by current polls and other sources that Obama will win and most of you Republican can't handle that or the fact that a well, black person will be the leader of the US. Just tell me, if McCain was winning, would we be seeing these 'support McCain' threads?
On a second note, I think that politic is also something we should not talk about here as well because of ...well you know, how it turns people.
Boofu
Member
I just want you to back up your assertion with "GOOD links to your information."
Tell us exactly why McCain's policies would lead to a depression.
I will tell you why I think Obama's policies will lead to depression:
in 1929, the stock market crashed and the United States experienced a recession until 1932. In 1932, President Hoover imposed a hefty surcharge on those making $100k+ per year (Sound like a familiar tax policy???). By placing a heavy tax burden on capital, on those who are positioned to pull us out of a recession by creating jobs, Hoover actually dug the United States into a deeper hole, known today as the great depression.
Do you have any reason to make the assertion that you did, or are you just going to randomly throw that out there and hope that it sticks?
I choose to be a Republican in all times, not just in the good times, because I have principles.
We don't have a "Fairness" doctrine on this board.
So, because we disagree with Barrack Obama's policies, we are somehow a racist? I refuse to let ANYBODY dismiss my principles as racism because there happens to be a black person on the other ticket. That is race-baiting and it diminishes / dilutes the discussion on the topic of true racism, just like the story of "the boy who cried 'wolf'". I couldn't care less what race he is. I disagree with the man on issues.
Politics is something that we SHOULD talk about. It is healthy. Iron sharpens Iron. We are all better because of it. But please refrain from throwing around the race-card. That is DEFINITELY not healthy.
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PokemansForGeeks
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I enjoy talking about politics but when I talk to ignorant people I get ticked off.
Most of them are naive, uneducated Republicans.
Most of them are naive, uneducated Republicans.
InfiniteMasterEx
New Member
Because Obama will raise taxes as exuberant as Hoover did. Wrong, he is only reversing tax backs back to the 90s rate (which was a time of economic growth, might I remind) Anyone noticed the economy is on a downturn AFTER Bush's tax cuts? Trickle-down economics isn't entirely foolproof; there are a whole lot of factors that affect economy, not just taxes. =/
Oh and for those that state Obama is the most liberal politician around, you probably never heard of this guy. Sure, Obama is not close to the center as, say, Bill Clinton (IMO the closest president to being a centrist and one of the best presidents ever) but he is by all means not radical....
Source:
http://origin.barackobama.com/taxes/
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Boofu
Member
Did you forget the years of growth before the current economic downturn? Are you suggesting that the economic downturn was because of TAX CUTS? If you are, you need to brush up on:
1. The cause of the current crisis
2. Expansionary fiscal policy
3. Macroeconomics in general
The difference between Obama and the Clinton years, is Obama would instigate the tax hike exactly during a time of economic recovery.
Stock Market crashed in October, Obama assumes office in January during recovery and institutes tax increases, growth is stifled, American economy is stuck in a rutt.
Tax decrease = Expansionary fiscal policy = what we need.
Tax increase = Contractionary fiscal policy = exactly what we do NOT need right now.
1. The cause of the current crisis
2. Expansionary fiscal policy
3. Macroeconomics in general
The difference between Obama and the Clinton years, is Obama would instigate the tax hike exactly during a time of economic recovery.
Stock Market crashed in October, Obama assumes office in January during recovery and institutes tax increases, growth is stifled, American economy is stuck in a rutt.
Tax decrease = Expansionary fiscal policy = what we need.
Tax increase = Contractionary fiscal policy = exactly what we do NOT need right now.
InfiniteMasterEx
New Member
That is not true. I am saying tax cuts are not necessarily always good nor did I say that a tax increase is good either (I, for one, rather a flat tax rate) as well as the magnitude Hoover done with his rates is not on the same level as Obama's, and despite my reservations about Obama's economic policies, I still feel the impact is vastly overstated (but not necessarily false) by republicans (no offense.)
Wishful thinking we will ever get our budget surplus back anyways... *sigh*
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Boofu
Member
Well, when it is stated by the Pundits and campaign surrogates that this current crisis is the worst since the great depression, I can't imagine why Obama would even dream of raising taxes a single penny. ESPECIALLY the capital gains tax! It just shows that he would rather stick to his ideology of redistribution than practice smart fiscal policy during a crisis.
InfiniteMasterEx
New Member
Because the rich will no longer be rich after seeing their taxe rates go up, right? It will make them suffer, no doubt, but Clinton-era tax rates are not so horrible. He is still giving tax breaks to the middle class, which IIRC outnumbers the wealthy, which in turn will stimulate the economy anyways.
And where does it say Obama is going to raise the capital gains tax? In his comprehnsive tax policy, he said he will eliminate capital gains tax rates and lower corporate tax rate (both, IMO, are the job creators, not lowering tax rates on wealthy.)
ColdCoates90
Active Member
*Without having read this entire thread- I still feel the need to say:
Thats a pretty bad blanket statement. I can respect the fact that we disagree over who should run our countries, but thats unnecessary to include religious affiliations in a person's bad qualities.
Besides, that its not even true. Jesus, however, called for the children and said, "Let the little children come to me, and stop keeping them away, because the kingdom of God belongs to people like these. ~ Luke 18:16(ISV) I define the mentally handicapped to be considered to have the mental capacity of a child, and therefore go to heaven.
bullados
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Boofu, the economic boom of the last 4 years was really a complete sham. If you want a full picture of the economics of the boom period, look at the new housing market. I can't believe that the boom period lasted as long as it did with housing dropping as severely as it did back in 2006. My dad worked for Pulte, and he's been in construction for over 25 years. He called the last couple years the toughest couple years he's ever had to work through. Housing sales were completely trash as people couldn't afford their houses, AND to make things worse those that actually had housing couldn't afford to pay for said housing.
This recession has been coming for a VERY long time. I'm not surprised that it was this sudden or severe. I am surprised that it didn't happen sooner than this.
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Also, is McCain really this desperate?
I just want the damn election to end. Osama, McCant, it doesn't really matter. Just end the insanity and let my life continue again!
This recession has been coming for a VERY long time. I'm not surprised that it was this sudden or severe. I am surprised that it didn't happen sooner than this.
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Also, is McCain really this desperate?
I just want the damn election to end. Osama, McCant, it doesn't really matter. Just end the insanity and let my life continue again!
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vaporeon
Moderator
Now that is the reason why I want McCain to lose. because if you have to play dirty like that to 'try' to win, then you already lost. We all don't like Bush for reason and McCain agrees with him 90% of the time. I can care less for who you vote for, thats your chose, but vote carefully and not stupidly.
And Boofu, no I'm not calling you a racist but, its also sad that do won't agree that this election is 100% based on race. Had Obama been white, he would not be called the things he was called. Most attacks on him would not have happened and he only got those attacks because he was black. Like I said, I could care less about all of this because I don't know very much about it, but I am watching this and I have things to say about it. Even you you know it true and your trying to hide it but, I'm telling you how it is.
Like I said, its not a good time to be Republican because bush messed that up for a lot of people. We are where we are at because of Bush and 'his ways that he put into effect'. McCain=Bush nuff said.
These thread are all one-sided topics anyway. its like most people here only choose 1 or 2 things that sound good and pick a vote that way. Do most of you even do reasearch on this stuff. And I don't mean, McCains good and Obama bad and vis-versa.
