Should sunglasses be an issue for hayfever sufferers at tournaments?

[ashinto]

I was just wondering this. I suffer an eye condition that at any given time I'm given horrid migranes to any amount of light. I usually wear sunglasses during that time to stop the light as much as I could so I can go along with my day. IMO they should be allowed during touriments, but the reflective ones could be an issue.

 

[Regis_Neo]

Dunno why this would be an issue, plenty of people wear sunglasses indoors anyways. Heck, people wear em at Poker tournaments to hide any tell signs their eyes may give away, so actually it might be advantageous to do so whether or not you suffer from allergies lol.

 

[PokePop]

Dunno why this would be an issue, plenty of people wear sunglasses indoors anyways. Heck, people wear em at Poker tournaments to hide any tell signs their eyes may give away, so actually it might be advantageous to do so whether or not you suffer from allergies lol.

But in Poker, they take a quick peek at their cards and then don't look at them again.
In Pokemon, you're looking at your hand all the time.

Plus they also allow players to look like Kenny.
I wouldn't allow that.

 

[ryanvergel]

I have permanent hay fever too . A bad attack is bad. Personally I haven't found sun glasses to have much impact on reducing a high pollen count to a low one. Sunglasses do reduce the level of light when I'm outside enough to reduce irritation from intense sunlight. But that is something I'm aware of even when the pollen count is low.

I haven't tried a snorkel mask.Though it would probably work I'd still not be able to see as I need corrective lenses for my short sight.

I don't think it aims to reduce to count- but provide a block or cover to prevent contact. It certainly won't reduce the pollen count, but it seems very very good at preventing contact.

I have mild pollen allergies, but I can have really bad reactions around my eyes. If I get pollen on my hands or fingers and TOUCH near my eye it will SWELL and usually takes a solid day to go down. There isn't much of any pain, but itchiness and swelling is absolutely irritating and kind of disgusting lol.

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I once had to give my opponent a friendly heads up after our game that he may not want to were reflective sunglasses just to "be cool". It was rather amusing being able to see what he had in his hand the whole game.

That seems pretty poor SotG :X

Oh, hi, you're unwillingly (likely) and unknowingly (even more likely) giving me knowledge of your hands- and despite this I will withhold that fact, KNOWINGLY and WILLINGLY (unlike what he is doing) to gain an advantage over you.

 

[toxictaipan]

I am not sure how I feel.

I am a bit torn. I think there is a few thoughts here.

I feel that trying to cover your eyes with sunglass could give you an unfair advantage (as silly as that might be) as it could be a little bit indimidating because you can't see your opponents eyes.

I also think that if your sunglasses are reflective they give your opponent an unfair advantage as they might be able to see the cards off the reflection. It isn't fair to tell a player to not look into the sunglass for a reflection because frankly that is near impossible.

I think that if I was HJ, it would be judgement call and more times than not I wouldn't allow it.

If you had an actual medical condition that meant you were sensitive to light or what not I would let them be used as long as they as previously stated were not reflective.

Drew

I agree with you that because of a medical condition, an exception must be made.

However, I have to disagree with you on having an "unfair" advantage. I don't see (lol pun) how it's unfair. I also don't see how it's intimidating. "I can't see your eyes, therefore I'm intimidated." That just doesn't make sense to me.

As far as I know, there is not currently a rule against wearing sunglasses during tournament play (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Both players are free to wear sunglasses if they wish. Just because one person sees (lol pun #2) an opportunity and takes it and the other person does not, doesn't make it unfair. For it to be unfair, one person would have to have an opportunity/knowledge/advantage that the other player had no chance to obtain.

You wanna wear sunglasses? Then go get some sunglasses. If you don't want to, that's not my problem. I have just as much of a right to hide my tells as you have to read them.

As for the reflection, that's on the player wearing the sunglasses. There's not much you can do about that. If you're going to wear sunglasses during a card game, it just makes sense to check and see (lol pun #3) if they reflect.

"Be aware of you and your surroundings."

 

[prodigal_fanboy]

@Toxic Taipan: because seeing your opponent's face // reactions can be used to inform current and future decisions?

@this thread: I wear my stunna glasses at night. Preceding statement is relevant.

 

[Yoshi-]

I was just wondering this. I suffer an eye condition that at any given time I'm given horrid migranes to any amount of light. I usually wear sunglasses during that time to stop the light as much as I could so I can go along with my day. IMO they should be allowed during touriments, but the reflective ones could be an issue.

That sounds tough :/ But how do you play when you basically cant see light? Arent you more or less blind?

 

[toxictaipan]

@Toxic Taipan: because seeing your opponent's face // reactions can be used to inform current and future decisions?

@this thread: I wear my stunna glasses at night. Preceding statement is relevant.

I don't quite understand what you're trying to say. Are you saying that hiding a tell causes my opponent to be intimidated?

 

[KazamBolt]

I've seen kids wearing sunglasses at tournaments I've been to just to be funny, and I haven't heard anyone say anything about it. I don't think you'll have much of a problem.

 

[Squidwina]

The ADA uses the term "reasonable accomodation," and I think it's a good one for cases like this. Allowing the player to wear protective glasses during the tournament seems like a reasonable accomodation for sufferers of this condition.

That said, I don't understand why they have to be sunglasses. There are all sorts of safety glasses that provide better protection than wrap-around sunglasses and would avoid the whole issue.

Would it be worth bringing my over-the-counter anti-histamine medication on the day of Nationals in a week's time to 'prove' to the HJ that I'm a sufferer? Medical advice is to reduce the causes of allergy as much as possible, as long as I discreetly make the HJ aware before the tournament would that be okay?

What would some OTC medication prove? Nothing.

A doctor's note, on the other hand, would.

I was just wondering this. I suffer an eye condition that at any given time I'm given horrid migranes to any amount of light. I usually wear sunglasses during that time to stop the light as much as I could so I can go along with my day. IMO they should be allowed during touriments, but the reflective ones could be an issue.

Sure. But does that mean they should be allowed for everyone or just people who need them because of some particular condition?


I don't like it when my opponent wears sunglasses because I don't like it when anybody that I'm interacting with wears sunglasses--unless they're needed, of course. But if it's not against the rules, then I'll deal.

 

[SteveP]

I don't get this topic. Are some organizer's prohibiting sunglasses during tournament play?

It's common courtesy to take off sunglasses indoors when you're talking to people, so they can see your eyes. It can also be a security issue in some situations and locations. Perhaps some organizers feel that tournament play fits one or more of those situations.

 

[louist200]

Guys this only becomes a problem if we make a big deal out of it. Make it a wear at your own risk thing.

 

[ashinto]

That sounds tough :/ But how do you play when you basically cant see light? Arent you more or less blind?

I can see light, though it makes my eyes feel like they're going to fall out of the sockets and that my brain is going to explode. The sunglasses lessen the pain, but usually when it happens i stay in a completely dark room the whole time.

 

[Yoshi-]

I can see light, though it makes my eyes feel like they're going to fall out of the sockets and that my brain is going to explode. The sunglasses lessen the pain, but usually when it happens i stay in a completely dark room the whole time.

So you dont have this all of the time? I was just wondering how youd play pokemon then ^^"

 

[meganium45]

I am an organizer, and pretty good judge (so I like to think), and I had to wear sunglasses while playing in Nationals a few years ago, and noone gave me any trouble. Had a splitting migraine.

My opponent even joked that he could see my hand, to which I laughed and said, "so you know you lose?"

Was fun.

Vince

 

[ryanvergel]

The ADA uses the term "reasonable accomodation," and I think it's a good one for cases like this. Allowing the player to wear protective glasses during the tournament seems like a reasonable accomodation for sufferers of this condition.

That said, I don't understand why they have to be sunglasses. There are all sorts of safety glasses that provide better protection than wrap-around sunglasses and would avoid the whole issue.

What would some OTC medication prove? Nothing.

A doctor's note, on the other hand, would.

Sure. But does that mean they should be allowed for everyone or just people who need them because of some particular condition?


I don't like it when my opponent wears sunglasses because I don't like it when anybody that I'm interacting with wears sunglasses--unless they're needed, of course. But if it's not against the rules, then I'll deal.

yeah, let me carry around multiple pairs of protective eyewear

why sunglasses? so you don't look dumb, and so you don't have to buy/wear/have different items on your persons? because it's more convenient? because it would probably be cheaper as people already have sunglasses?

there are so many reasons. it doesnt even MATTER what the reason is. get over your admitted prejudice against sunglasses.

i hate that this even matters.