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State Attendance 2010

Stephen, I think that snowstorm killed a LOT of attendance numbers. I know I was putting IL's over/under at 200 pre-storm. And I think it would've gotten to that point if not for the storm.
 
We were banking on 150. We had prepped a whole second room a couple doors down in the strip mall that we could push Seniors into if we overflowed, but that obviously never materialized.

Still, it was a great tournament with a fantastic ending. Player down 1-0 took his 4th prize of Game 2 on the time called turn -- Sudden Death Game 3 for the title, baby!
 
I'll update the Kansas numbers in a few minutes. I still need confirmation from the following states...

Week 1:

Iowa: 10 / 7 / 9 = 26 (OP site says 9/7/16 = 32. I can has doublecheck plz?)
Ontario: 26 / 32 / 87 = 145 (The OP site has 27/31/87, I want to doublecheck that one, and I'm not sure if LLX is the HJ or PTO)
Oklahoma: 13 / 29 / 62 = 104 (from the OP website)
New Hampshire: 13 / 30 / 55 = 98 (from the OP website)
Delaware: 12 / 26 / 65 = 103 (from the OP website)
New Jersey: 16 / 22 / 61 = 99 (from the OP website. If this is true, I wonder if it's the exact same player roster as last year. The numbers certainly make sense )

Week 2:

Minnesota: 24 / 31 / 45 = 100 (from the OP website)
Pennsylvania: 31 / 25 / 82 = 138 (from the OP website)
Maine: 11 / 6 / 35 = 52 (from the OP website)
British Columbia: 10 / 26 / 44 = 80 (from the OP website)
Mississippi: 12 / 21 / 34 = 67 (from the OP website)
New York: 15 / 19 / 47 = 81 (from the OP website. This was corrected to 15 / 17 / 49 = 81 on 3/23. Which is correct?)
Utah: 19 / 30 / 58 = 107 (from the OP website)
Texas: 40 / 46 / 128 = 214 (from the OP website)

Again, after Friday, once the OP website has all of their numbers uploaded, I'll consider those numbers to be final for anything that hasn't been confirmed at that time. Basically, if either the TO or HJ can post the correct numbers, or if two sources agree (whether they be two person-sources or a person and the OP website), then that number is considered final. However, after this Friday, I will use the OP website's numbers for all States that haven't been confirmed at that time.
 
OK, Mississippi is updated. Noting for the record that Mike's number is smaller than the PCI number, but moving past that...

I still need confirmation from the following State numbers...

Week 1:

Iowa: 10 / 7 / 9 = 26 (OP site says 9/7/16 = 32. I can has doublecheck plz?)
Ontario: 26 / 32 / 87 = 145 (The OP site has 27/31/87, I want to doublecheck that one, and I'm not sure if LLX is the HJ or PTO)
Oklahoma: 13 / 29 / 62 = 104 (from the OP website)
New Hampshire: 13 / 30 / 55 = 98 (from the OP website)
Delaware: 12 / 26 / 65 = 103 (from the OP website)
New Jersey: 16 / 22 / 61 = 99 (from the OP website. If this is true, I wonder if it's the exact same player roster as last year. The numbers certainly make sense )

Still missing South Carolina's information on anything.

Week 2:

Minnesota: 24 / 31 / 45 = 100 (from the OP website)
Pennsylvania: 31 / 25 / 82 = 138 (from the OP website)
Maine: 11 / 6 / 35 = 52 (from the OP website)
British Columbia: 10 / 26 / 44 = 80 (from the OP website)
New York: 15 / 19 / 47 = 81 (from the OP website. This was corrected to 15 / 17 / 49 = 81 on 3/23. Which is correct?)
Utah: 19 / 30 / 58 = 107 (from the OP website)
Texas: 40 / 46 / 128 = 214 (from the OP website)
Colorado: 16 / 26 / 49 = 91 (from the OP website)
Tennessee: 16 / 22 / 46 = 84 (from the OP website)
Montreal: 5 / 10 / 47 = 62 (from the OP website)

Still missing Alberta and Massachusetts on anything.

Again, after Friday, once the OP website has all of their numbers uploaded, I'll consider those numbers to be final for anything that hasn't been confirmed at that time. Basically, if either the TO or HJ can post the correct numbers, or if two sources agree (whether they be two person-sources or a person and the OP website), then that number is considered final. However, after this Friday, I will use the OP website's numbers for all States that haven't been confirmed at that time.
 
According to my calculations (and without Alberta and Massachusetts)...

21 States gained attendance (553 total more attendees than last year)

18 States lost attendance (285 total fewer attendees than last year)

There were a total of 268 additional attendees this year than last year.
 
That's probably very close, Gorn. I'm just waiting to make sure that all my numbers are as correct as I can make them. To wit...

I still need confirmation from the following State numbers...

Week 1:

Iowa: 10 / 7 / 9 = 26 (OP site says 9/7/16 = 32. I can has doublecheck plz?)
Ontario: 26 / 32 / 87 = 145 (The OP site has 27/31/87, I want to doublecheck that one, and I'm not sure if LLX is the HJ or PTO)
Oklahoma: 13 / 29 / 62 = 104 (from the OP website)
New Hampshire: 13 / 30 / 55 = 98 (from the OP website)
Delaware: 12 / 26 / 65 = 103 (from the OP website)
New Jersey: 16 / 22 / 61 = 99 (from the OP website. If this is true, I wonder if it's the exact same player roster as last year. The numbers certainly make sense )
South Carolina: 15 / 20 / 58 = 93 (from the OP website)

Week 2:

Minnesota: 24 / 31 / 45 = 100 (from the OP website)
Pennsylvania: 31 / 25 / 82 = 138 (from the OP website)
Maine: 11 / 6 / 35 = 52 (from the OP website)
British Columbia: 10 / 26 / 44 = 80 (from the OP website)
New York: 15 / 19 / 47 = 81 (from the OP website. This was corrected to 15 / 17 / 49 = 81 on 3/23. Which is correct?)
Utah: 19 / 30 / 58 = 107 (from the OP website)
Texas: 40 / 46 / 128 = 214 (from the OP website)
Colorado: 16 / 26 / 49 = 91 (from the OP website)
Tennessee: 16 / 22 / 46 = 84 (from the OP website)
Montreal: 5 / 10 / 47 = 62 (from the OP website)

Still missing Alberta and Massachusetts on anything.

A quick reminder. After TOMORROW, these numbers all become OFFICIAL. Specifically, I'll be using the most current numbers from the PCI website. I'm still waiting on Alberta and Massachusetts to report anything from States, so everything will be updated once those two get into the system.

Again, if you can give any numbers, please do so before tomorrow.

Thank you for your help.
 
Ok, so looking only at confirmed master's numbers, VA is behind only FL, CA, WA, TX, and OR....

Yeah, I can live with that!! :thumb:
 
I wouldn't call Texas confirmed yet. My experience last year with Regionals taught me that numbers can change as there might be data issues at certain states.

I still need confirmation from the following State numbers...

Week 1:

Iowa: 10 / 7 / 9 = 26 (OP site says 9/7/16 = 32. I can has doublecheck plz?)
Ontario: 26 / 32 / 87 = 145 (The OP site has 27/31/87, I want to doublecheck that one, and I'm not sure if LLX is the HJ or PTO)
Oklahoma: 13 / 29 / 62 = 104 (from the OP website)
New Hampshire: 13 / 30 / 55 = 98 (from the OP website)
Delaware: 12 / 26 / 65 = 103 (from the OP website)
New Jersey: 16 / 22 / 61 = 99 (from the OP website. If this is true, I wonder if it's the exact same player roster as last year. The numbers certainly make sense )
South Carolina: 15 / 20 / 58 = 93 (from the OP website)

Week 2:

Minnesota: 24 / 31 / 45 = 100 (from the OP website)
Pennsylvania: 31 / 25 / 82 = 138 (from the OP website)
Maine: 11 / 6 / 35 = 52 (from the OP website)
British Columbia: 10 / 26 / 44 = 80 (from the OP website)
New York: 15 / 19 / 47 = 81 (from the OP website. This was corrected to 15 / 17 / 49 = 81 on 3/23. Which is correct?)
Utah: 19 / 30 / 58 = 107 (from the OP website)
Texas: 40 / 46 / 128 = 214 (from the OP website)
Colorado: 16 / 26 / 49 = 91 (from the OP website)
Tennessee: 16 / 22 / 46 = 84 (from the OP website)
Montreal: 5 / 10 / 47 = 62 (from the OP website)
Alberta: 18 / 15 / 28 = 61 (from the OP website)

Still missing Massachusetts on anything.

A quick reminder. These numbers will become official once Massachusetts has been confirmed or is on the PCI website. If anybody can come out and confirm any of the numbers I've gotten so far, please post here. I don't like having different sources that disagree with each other, and I *REALLY* don't want to start any arguments about "whose numbers are correct" or something stupid like that.

If you can confirm any of the numbers above, please post before Massachusetts goes live.

Thank you for all your help!
 
Massachusetts had 32 Seniors, if that helps. I know it isn't much, but if the POP numbers conflict with this, they're wrong.
 
I'll doublecheck the Mass numbers against that 32...

I still need confirmation from the following State numbers...

Week 1:

Iowa: 10 / 7 / 9 = 26 (OP site says 9/7/16 = 32. I can has doublecheck plz?)
Ontario: 26 / 32 / 87 = 145 (The OP site has 27/31/87, I want to doublecheck that one, and I'm not sure if LLX is the HJ or PTO)
Oklahoma: 13 / 29 / 62 = 104 (from the OP website. This was changed to 13 / 28 / 63 = 104 on 3/28. Confirm plz?)
New Hampshire: 13 / 30 / 55 = 98 (from the OP website)
Delaware: 12 / 26 / 65 = 103 (from the OP website)
New Jersey: 16 / 22 / 61 = 99 (from the OP website. If this is true, I wonder if it's the exact same player roster as last year. The numbers certainly make sense )
South Carolina: 15 / 20 / 58 = 93 (from the OP website)

Week 2:

Minnesota: 24 / 31 / 45 = 100 (from the OP website)
Pennsylvania: 31 / 25 / 82 = 138 (from the OP website)
Maine: 11 / 6 / 35 = 52 (from the OP website)
British Columbia: 10 / 26 / 44 = 80 (from the OP website)
New York: 15 / 19 / 47 = 81 (from the OP website. This was corrected to 15 / 17 / 49 = 81 on 3/23. Which is correct?)
Utah: 19 / 30 / 58 = 107 (from the OP website)
Texas: 40 / 46 / 128 = 214 (from the OP website)
Colorado: 16 / 26 / 49 = 91 (from the OP website)
Tennessee: 16 / 22 / 46 = 84 (from the OP website)
Montreal: 5 / 10 / 47 = 62 (from the OP website)
Alberta: 18 / 15 / 28 = 61 (from the OP website)

All I've got for Massachusetts is that the Srs had 32. It hasn't been put into the system yet. I won't make any of the above numbers "official" until they are either confirmed by another source, or Massachusetts has been uploaded into the system or has been confirmed.
 
bullados, have you tried contacting the PTOs of those states for which you would like confirmation? Some of them and their HJs may not actively visit Pokegym if they are even members.

bullados said:
I wouldn't call Texas confirmed yet. My experience last year with Regionals taught me that numbers can change as there might be data issues at certain states.
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I think what totoro is getting at is, even if TX's numbers are not correct as currently recorded, it is very unlikely for TX to go from 214 (TX's unconfirmed #s) down to 156 (VA's confirmed #s).
 
S Carolina looks accurate. I know the overall number was only 1 off from '09. I was HJ at both NC and SC.

Keith
 
I just got a bunch of confirmations last night, and I've updated the lead post with the new information. I still need confirmation of the following States before I can put up a final analysis...

Week 1:

Iowa: 10 / 7 / 9 = 26 (OP site says 9/7/16 = 32. I can has doublecheck plz?)
Oklahoma: 13 / 29 / 62 = 104 (from the OP website. This was changed to 13 / 28 / 63 = 104 on 3/28. Confirm plz?)
New Hampshire: 13 / 30 / 55 = 98 (from the OP website)
Delaware: 12 / 26 / 65 = 103 (from the OP website)

Week 2:

British Columbia: 10 / 26 / 44 = 80 (from the OP website)
Utah: 19 / 30 / 58 = 107 (from the OP website)
Colorado: 16 / 26 / 49 = 91 (from the OP website)

All I've got for Massachusetts is that the Srs had 32. It hasn't been put into the system yet. I won't make any of the above numbers "official" until they are either confirmed by another source, or Massachusetts has been uploaded into the system or has been confirmed.

I think I can comment a little bit on some things I've seen so far. The States that were in Week 1 last year enjoyed some pretty nice gains this year, with the top 9 gains all being week 1 events last year. I think that some of this increase has to do with the PTOs better spreading their events across the weekends with respect to their neighboring states. At least, I'm fairly sure that Minnesota's and Wisconsin's big increases are due to them NOT being run on the same weekend. I also noticed that a lot of the events from week 2 last year saw either relatively small growth or even decline in numbers. But, after over 5 years of rapid growth and the insane numbers those week 2 events got last year, it might have been expected to see some slowing or declining.

I also think (and this is totally an opinion) that the late information about States this year might have had something to do with the growth being more tempered than it has been in the past. I'm pretty certain that we started getting information from PCI last year around New Year's, whereas I don't think we got anything concrete about States this year until about a month before the first event (plz correct me if I'm wrong).

It's nice to see so many events crossing the century mark this year. So far, 20 out of 36 confirmed totals have been over 100, and I'm expecting to see at least another few century marks out of those that haven't been confirmed yet, based on last year's performance and the numbers I haven't yet confirmed above. Also, there were another half dozen-or-so events within striking distance of 100 for next year.
 
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I got in some more confirmations, but I still have 4 more that I'd like to get confirmed. I'll give this 24 hours to simmer before my final front page update and analysis of this year's attendance numbers.

Week 1:

New Hampshire: 13 / 30 / 55 = 98 (from the OP website)
Delaware: 12 / 26 / 65 = 103 (from the OP website)

Week 2:

British Columbia: 10 / 26 / 44 = 80 (from the OP website)
Massachusetts: 20 / 32 / 79 = 131 (from the OP website)

Please, if anybody can confirm any of these numbers, or if anybody has any different numbers, please post here. I'm going to consider these numbers final 24 hours from the time of this post.

Thx for everybody's help with this!
 
OK, I've updated the first post with the final numbers from NH, Delaware, BC, and Mass. I'll repost some of the more statistical stuff down here, and then share some of my thoughts about everything...

Week 1 Totals:
Last Year (22 states): 501/575/1172 = 2248
This Year's Events Last Year (19 states): 524 / 511 / 1111 (1) = 2147
This Year (19 states): 394 / 546 / 1285 = 2225
Raw % Increase (22 vs 19): -21.4 / -5.0 / 9.6 = -1.0
Comparative % Increase (19 vs 19): -24.8 / 6.8 / 15.7 = 3.6

over 22 individual states last year. I have 19 confirmed so far for week 1. Of those, 11 were on week 1 last year, 8 were on week 2.

Week 1 Incumbent Totals (11 states):
Last Year: 214 / 232 / 496 = 942
This Year: 178 / 275 / 692 = 1145
% Increase: -16.8 / 18.5 / 39.5 = 21.5

Week 1 Migrant Totals (8 States):
Last Year: 310 / 279 / 615 (1) = 1205
This Year: 216 / 271 / 593 = 1080
% Increase: -30.3 / -2.9 / -3.6 = -10.4

Week 2 Totals:
Last Year (21 states): 636 / 620 / 1425 = 2610
This Year's Events Last Year (23 states): 609 / 680 / 1474 (2) = 2765
This Year (24 states): 529 / 681 / 1651 = 2861
Raw % Increase (24 vs 21): -16.8 / 9.8 / 15.9 = 9.6
Comparative % Increase (24 vs 23): -13.1 / 0.1 / 12.0 = 3.5

through 21 States last year. Currently, there are 24 States reporting as Premiers. Of those, 11 were on week 1 last year, 12 were on week 2, and 1 is apparently new for this year.

Week 2 Incumbent Totals (12 states):
Last Year: 322 / 337 / 798 (1) = 1458
This Year: 249 / 328 / 838 = 1415
% Increase: -22.6 / -2.7 / 5.0 = -2.9

Week 2 Migrant Totals (11 States):
Last Year: 287 / 343 / 676 (1) = 1307
This Year: 280 / 353 / 813 = 1446
% Increase: -2.4 / 2.9 / 20.3 = 10.6

Last year, there were in total...

1137 / 1195 / 2597 = 4929

This year, the total was...

923 / 1227 / 2936 = 5086

For a percentage increase of...

-18.8 / 2.7 / 13.1 = 3.2

OK, there's a bunch of stuff to work through here. The first, most obvious conclusion is that the growth of this game has stagnated somewhat, at least from a competitive perspective. Attendance was up overall, but not by enough to say definitively that the game is still growing in the same way it has been growing over the last few years.

I'm noticing a disturbing trend with the age division splits. It looks like the Masters are increasing mostly due to ageups. The Seniors flat number is probably due to ageups in both directions. And the Juniors have decreased a lot. I think that, right now, this game is seeing something of a maturation in the competitive side, but I don't think it's in a good way. Strategies are becoming increasingly more complex, and that leaves the average Junior player feeling overwhelmed by everything, and not willing to continue with the game. It's not that Juniors are leaving the game at all. It's more that new Juniors aren't coming in to take their place. If you look back to last year, the Juniors age division was increasing by tremendous amounts, and that growth simply isn't seen here anymore. I have no doubt that the local area Junior contingent is growing; I've seen the growth firsthand. I just feel like these Juniors aren't willing or able to take the next step into the competitive scene.

I also think that economics are highly involved here. Let's face it: Pokemon is not a cheap game to collect or play. To play competitively, it's likely that one player will have to shell out over $400 a year, and that's just to get the initial investment into the game. I know that my habit is probably costing me over $800/year just for the products, and I'm not terribly competitive. I know that it's easier to collect for decks if you form "teams" and share cards, but many Juniors are still enthralled in having their own stuff and keeping track of their own stuff, and not really willing to share even though it's in their best interests. Right now, we're in probably the worst recession of the last 50 years. I know that the stock market has recovered, but there simply isn't the spending confidence like there has been for the last two decades. Last year, I think we were seeing the final stages of the initial investment phase before people really started tightening their belts. One last hurrah for those who could no longer afford to play competitively.

The events that were on week 2 last year basically stagnated in a predictable manner. It's not surprising, really. Those events showed truly insane levels of growth last year, and that amount wasn't really sustainable long term. Most of the events from week 2 last year showed stagnation or even decreased in attendance from last year. Only 5 of the 21 week 2 events from last year showed significant growth. And all but 3 of the double-digit declines were from events that were on week 2 last year. Most of the declines are probably because of conflicting States dates. I remember there was a VERY nice map that somebody put together last year showing when each SC was being held by color-coding a map of the U.S. Could somebody plz put together something like that again this year? Thx!

In good news, the week 1 events from last year showed some impressive gains, many of them predictable with changing locations and organizers. I'd say that there were only 3 out of 22 states from last year that decreased in attendance significantly. All of the others were either flat or grew from last year to this year. 11 of the 14 double digit percentage increases were from week 1 last year. One of the decreases was very predictable, given that the entire state had zero Cities and only a couple BRs this year. According to the OP website, there hasn't been a Premier level event in the entire state of Iowa since at least the beginning of the year, aside from the State Championship, so that decrease could largely be predicted by a lack of events.

I'd also like to call out Minnesota, Arizona, New York, Illinois, Wisconsin, Ontario, and Kentucky for being the only States this year to see increases in all age groups. Well done you guys!
Wisconsin for having the highest percentage increase overall and in the Srs and Mas age groups.
And New York for having the highest percentage increase in the Jrs age group.

And finally, one big Congratulations to all of the Organizers, Judges, Staff, and Locations that held all of these State Championships. You guys are the ones growing this game, and we all will continue to rely on you for its growth in the future. Congratulations for having the highest overall attendance of any State Championship series since PCI took over this game. Well done!

Now that this work is done, the even harder and more important work of putting together the Regionals Attendance Numbers has to start. Once again, I request any help that anybody can give in obtaining the attendance numbers for this year's Regional Championship events in the U.S. and Canada.
 
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