I'm sure as **** better than you - so it's amusing how you're proposing arguments like dsmash > dtilt to someone with such an impressive tourney record.
First: *takes a shot*
Second: Learn to read my bloody arguments. Not since Moss Factor has anyone so stalwartly refused to read anything I say, and instead substitute it with the most feeble strawmen I've ever come across.
I don't really get how I'm at all losing this argument when you're too ****ing scared to even restate and explain your case anymore.
Frankly? It's easier to point and laugh at how immature you're being when flailing around helplessly than to try and explain for the umpteenth time why you're being a complete idiot. I figure that if you can't understand after the first dozen or so explanations, you never will. The only respectful thing for me to do is to realize this and accept it.
At this point you aren't even arguing about smash (which I'm doing),
And what does this say about you? Offhand, I'd say it's you forcing arguments on people for the sake of constructing strawmen and generally putting words in others' (i.e. my) mouths, in order to feel better about yourself.
Okay, so according to the first quote YOU dragged the argument, but according to the second I dragged the argument; explain how I'm supposed to argue with a hypocrite?
So, let's get this straight. You're intentionally provoking someone known for fantastic and lengthy arguments, for no real reason at all. I'm not the one dragging the Smash argument here, as you've noted. You are.
As I've said, I'm defending myself against unfounded and patently wrong claims.
I tried to respect you for being a coder; but as soon as you gave an incorrect description of wavedashing I realized you're obviously a lot less reliable than you think you are.
No respect that I saw. And really, as it turned out, I was right. You're not physically jumping during a wavedash, regardless of what initiates it.
Who the **** do you think you are?
I'm Marril.
I don't have to agree with you at all or talk to you respectfully after you've been going around spewing crap for 4 months about me; I'm showing a lot more respect towards you (though not much, I'll admit) than you're showing towards me
No, you're really not. You're showing no capacity to accept any paradigm outside of your preexisting one. You're showing no effort to so much as understand anything said to you.
while I may not be a Marril fan
Holy crap. I have fans?
I may have made the fuss, however I'm not the one who felt it was necessary to even bring the thought of this argument from topic 1 to topic 2; provoking an argument.
What so-called "argument" did I bring? "This is how you're not jumping during a wavedash." That statement has zero bearing on even your Smash ramblings right now, as you're on about kill combos and what moves are still good if they don't kill someone instantly.
Face it, you're the one continuing this. I didn't argue about Smash during the time you were gone from the thread. The discussion went on, life was almost back to normal, and then you started in again. It doesn't take a genius to spot the trend here.
you - having an excuse for everything - decided to bash his grammar errors rather than properly refuting what he said.
I bash grammar errors when it takes me more than a few read-throughs of a post to interpret what's being said. Simple as that. As I recall, the post by GaaRa in question took me three or four to parse what he was saying.
When a move is obsolete to another move the same character has, that's a good enough argument to say 'this move sucks'
Learn the difference between "strictly better" and "better." Then learn that I've never once said that down-smash is superior to down-tilt except in certain situations.
"Strictly better" is a highly precise term, which means something to the effect of this: "If A is strictly better than B, then in no conceivable circumstance no matter how farfetched is B preferable to A."
in your metagame you can get away with a laggy move and take, say - 10 damage.
If I whiff a down-smash? Closer to 50 at least. If I were to use down-tilt in a situation where I'd normally land down-smash? I'd take about that much, too.