Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

T2 Banette

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L00p_H01eS said:
OMG i cant use scramble energies now im goign to lose...


get a grip... scramble isnt the only thing in empolucario.
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empolucario is also not the best way to play empoleon, but it's the only one. bannette going first, doing turn 1 ascension, is a complete screw up for empoleon. empoleon wants to begin t.2 damage spread with plup, but without that plup, theres problems. the complete end of empoleon would be if you could get a crystal beach out turn 2 as well, doing that will ensure that they can't candy/scramble you, puting that bannette into a dangerous position. o love the new bannette personally.
 
Prize_Card said:
Also think about teching in a alakazam star... copy the bannete in your hand discard it and do 80 put it back in your deck.. Also you might be able to copy the first attack and take no dmg, cause it says put dmg on bannete and your attacking with alakazam. but theylll have to make a ruling for that.
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No need. Bannette's first attack is self-refferencing. That means that any pokemon that copies it will still plant damage counters onto itself.
Dp4's Lunatone loves being able to discard Bannettes, but we don't have that yet (obviously). Bronzong's a bad idea for speed decks. I guess it'll have to be supporters that we rely on ([del]unless you intentionally fail Pokenav searchs and then use Sableye to discard the topdecked Bannette[/del] *SHOT for bad sportsmanship*). :/
 
RESULTS ARE NOW UP:

Banette/Sableye vs straight Blissey (we're talking GOOD lists, dood): 1-1, both games were excellent with fast starts for these great decks.

Banette straight vs straight Blissey: 2-2. Every game was monumental for these super-fast, super-strong decks. Banette was able to contain Blissey using Crystal Beach/Buffer Piece/TGW. And the same went for Blissey, winning on unusual steps such as Super Scoop Up and Drake's Stadium, with TGW and Buffer really helping.

So, it looks like this: Banette vs Blissey is 50-50.

Personally, I liked the straight Banette in both the Mario and Blissey matchups. Sableye didn't do much vs Mario (didn't hurt either), and Excavate was nice, but somewhat unnecessary. In fact, it sort bogged the whole thing down. Vs Blissey, it was *so* much nicer having access to only Shuppets/Banettes with Quick Ball, even running only 2 Sableye. Yes, Sableye is a great staller vs Blissey, but by retreating, Switching, SSU'ing, it was possible to get rid of Sableye within 3 turns many times.
 
Banette vs Empoleon, of course Banette should be faster, Empolucario or anything else mostly dosen't play windstorm. I haven't even known Mario to play windstorm. So That matchup should be 60/40 in Banettes favor vs Empolucario since it can take all of their pokes by T2 and has lucarios weakness. Scrambles and DRE wont matter since they can lock in crystal beach,onyl counter staidums they play are probably Battle Frontier.

Banette vs Blissey is a 50/50, probably 55/45 since you have resistances and will do a constant 70 or 80. Bannetech vs Blissey is around 65/35, One cause of the Fighting Tech in it and the Sableye to stop Blissey for a minute to setup a Nette.

Speed Ban and Bannetech is pretty good right unless it goes against Honchcrow Swarm which will just destroy it,the matchup against that is 40/60 to 30/70.

PS.Also the alakazam * tech wouldnt be worth one cause yours using more NRG than whats needed for the attack which will slow down what your trying to do.
 
I playtested against Speed Blissey....Best Blissey version out, it went 1-1, I am going to say that if you don't win with Banette after 9-10 turns...Chalk the game up because Blissey will pwn u. Straight Banette is much better than Banette with Sableye(for now).
 
Vegeta ss4 said:
I playtested against Speed Blissey....Best Blissey version out, it went 1-1, I am going to say that if you don't win with Banette after 9-10 turns...Chalk the game up because Blissey will pwn u. Straight Banette is much better than Banette with Sableye(for now).
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Thats why say its 50/50 but it should take care Blissey before then if you setup that second Banette by T3,NRG is what makes and breaks the deck. BANG is to slow Ive learned so I hope no will rely on that setup/
 
well, this isn't your ordinary Speed Blissey, when I mean Speed Blissey, I mean SPEED BLISSEY. It sets up almost at the exact same speed as my Banette(My banette is obviously a t-2). The thing that changes this matchup is the tools IMO. Banette I feel can take any Blissey deck but this 1 IMO.
 
Most Straight Blisseys are T2 and speedy. Still for you to T2 Banette it has to be like this:

Blissey T1: CHansey,attach.end
Banette T2: Shuppet,Ascension,Banette
Blissey T3: Blissey,Boost, Four Pluspower and Strength Charm,KO.

which wont happen often or mostly at all. Even then, Bannetech would still have a favorable matchup against SPEED Blissey. I dont know,since your build is not posted,it may be that good.
 
I can't say what the starter is for Speed BLissey but, it isn't Chansey at all. I don't post deck lists on the gym anymore, unless it is a deck that I don't care about anymore.
 
MORE RESULTS:

First, against a very interesting Sableye/Claydol/Lugia deck, Banette 2-0, and I found it unnecessary to continue. Even so, the deck I just mentioned is pretty cool, and gives Banette (and every deck) a run for its money (see if you can guess why).

Second, against a Raichu deck with Electivire and techs, Banette *LOST* 3 times in a row. Every game was fairly close, but the techs made life rough. BTW, this Raichu deck is a tough little bugger, beating Mario 3 out of 4, Krickets 7 out of 10, and Blissey 50-50.
 
bugsbite said:
LOL, Isn't that the case for most people here.
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lol.....not really. MOst people here have posted what decks they are playing with, I haven't. Then again I don't care so it is w/e. All I know is that I am not dumb enough to post a deck list on this forum. Unless the deck is FLaridos in which I will post it because people can see my list but it doesn't mean that they are nearly as good as me with it, unless your the silvestros...lol....I wish Flaridos was still around. There would be NO such thing as Blissey!!!
 
KingGengar said:
MORE RESULTS:

Second, against a Raichu deck with Electivire and techs, Banette *LOST* 3 times in a row. Every game was fairly close, but the techs made life rough. BTW, this Raichu deck is a tough little bugger, beating Mario 3 out of 4, Krickets 7 out of 10, and Blissey 50-50.
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Funny you mention that, I played my Raichu/Electivire deck at league today and they all were close games. I did very good for a crap player. :lol:
 
bugsbite said:
Funny you mention that, I played my Raichu/Electivire deck at league today and they all were close games. I did very good for a crap player. :lol:
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Raichu and Electivire is a gret combo, the only thing Raichu can use. On a side note, too bad for the Errata on Electivire SW.
 
Vegeta ss4 said:
lol.....not really. MOst people here have posted what decks they are playing with, I haven't. Then again I don't care so it is w/e. All I know is that I am not dumb enough to post a deck list on this forum. Unless the deck is FLaridos in which I will post it because people can see my list but it doesn't mean that they are nearly as good as me with it, unless your the silvestros...lol....I wish Flaridos was still around. There would be NO such thing as Blissey!!!
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:lol:

I don't post my decks either for some different reasons, for instance I have hardly any time to test them, I am a noob, therefore I am not smart enough to post them to disrupt the flow of this forum. Man that didn't make any sense.:biggrin:

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Vegeta ss4 said:
Raichu and Electivire is a gret combo, the only thing Raichu can use. On a side note, too bad for the Errata on Electivire SW.
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Honestly I don't think it really hurts me since I only run :lightning energy anyway.
The more flips I get the less chance I have too screw up as usual. :wink:
 
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well, the energy count depends on what electivire you have, if you run 2 ELectivire SW, 1 Electivire DP, and 1 Electivire LV X then the energy count is at 16 with 2 Scramble, 2 Cyclone, 2 DRE, 10 Lightining. Crystal Beach is bleh in this deck IMO.
 
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