The Everything Durant thread

[chase4787]

Durant's biggest enemy is common sense. All you have to do to beat it is set up one attacker and bash through them until they struggle to keep them on the field and scoop or you take 6 prizes. Aside from that you just keep using super rods and cards that yield small hands, like N.

 

[Rambo]

Just say Durant is BDIF so that the bug..thing can be happy for once in it's forever pitiful career as a Pokemon.

 

[Tagrineth]

Sorry Durrant eats V3 for breakfast. By the time you have your combo out I will have already milled a quarter of your deck.. You are doing maybe 10 damage on a heads flip if you are lucky and get double heads) And after 3-4 turns when you finally KO a Durrant I OHKO you back. I played this atchup once and my Opponent flipped double tails twice and basically scooped after that.

...and every turn that you do get off the 1/4 heads, no matter how minimal the damage, that's a turn without a Devour.

and every Durant that's KOed is gone forever because Vileplume.

So yes, spend lots of resources getting out one of each piece... and then proceed to autowin. Works for me

How would N hurt the Durrant player?

Smaller hand for yourself. Wipe possible Revives out of their hand.

 

[JandPDS]

...and every turn that you do get off the 1/4 heads, no matter how minimal the damage, that's a turn without a Devour.

and every Durant that's KOed is gone forever because Vileplume.

So yes, spend lots of resources getting out one of each piece... and then proceed to autowin. Works for me



Smaller hand for yourself. Wipe possible Revives out of their hand.

Once you KO Durrant I return KO with Cobalion, do you have annother Ice Cream pokemon ready by then? You may not as I have milled a lot of your cards away while you were struggeling to get set up. I am not saying that VVV is a bad deck just it has a horrible match up vs Durrant.

 

[Regis_Neo]

wildfire was tier 1

Lol, I didn't say milling never existed before, just that it was almost non-existent. Besides, how many people here remember what, Fossil and Moltres lol.

 

[jjkkl]

Once you KO Durrant I return KO with Cobalion...[]

Ah, now this part is interesting.

The opening post and the subsequent discussion is looking at primarily a turbo, pure Durant list. I want to point out the Cobalion argument not because I think it's good or bad, but rather because I think it's critical to Durant's subsequent success (or lack thereof, you be the judge).

Would a constant Devour discard be the right way? Or does Durant benefit with a second, possibly sweeping partner that can clean up players who play conservatively? Those are questions that I'm certain a few Durant players are trying to answer, and whether they've done so successfully isn't going to be widespread noticeable until Cities, methinks.

So, in lieu of slightly shifting the opening question to something crucial to the deck's success - do you guys think that a Durant deck running a major partner (not just techs) would be better than a constant Durant stream?

 

[JandPDS]

Ah, now this part is interesting.

The opening post and the subsequent discussion is looking at primarily a turbo, pure Durant list. I want to point out the Cobalion argument not because I think it's good or bad, but rather because I think it's critical to Durant's subsequent success (or lack thereof, you be the judge).

Would a constant Devour discard be the right way? Or does Durant benefit with a second, possibly sweeping partner that can clean up players who play conservatively? Those are questions that I'm certain a few Durant players are trying to answer, and whether they've done so successfully isn't going to be widespread noticeable until Cities, methinks.

So, in lieu of slightly shifting the opening question to something crucial to the deck's success - do you guys think that a Durant deck running a major partner (not just techs) would be better than a constant Durant stream?

Well my DEA Strategy (Devestate, Erase and Annihilate) has taken me to an 11-5 record in the 3 Cities I have attended. I have defeated a Hoxorus deck where I started with 2 Durant and my Room prized, I have taken down a Magnezone/Yanmega, 2 Don Champs (one with The Truth), a VVV, A Mew Box, Kuyrem/Beartic w/The Truth, Kuyrem/Cobalion, ZPST, Magenzone/Zekrom/Thundrus/Elektrik and a Gothitelle. I have won more game by taking prizes then I have by decking (But I have won some games by decking that I never would have on prizes) The deck is so versatile and I can win a game so many different ways that my opponent has a hard time figuring out my strategy until it is too late. OF course it is a new deck so my luck could change but so far so good.

My only losses are a T1 donk to a Tornadus before I ever got a turn, a Mew box that got a T3 Vileplume and I did not get a Metal energy until T3. And 3 losses to Tyram (My autoloss) but it has matched up so well against everything else. Of the 11 wins the only one that I did not think I was going to win was the Magnezone/Eletrik deck. It was over powering me and I did not think I was going to pull it out. But He lost Zoned so much energy KO'ing my Cabalions and burned though his junkarms and Switches, so after he took his 4th prize, I catchered up an energyless elektrik and it stood stuck up there for 5 turns while I milled him with only two Durant in play and decked him out. That was the only win where I did not feel in control of the game the entire time. I did loose 5 prizes to a Donchamp but I never thought he was going to be able to take all 6 prized before I decked him out.

The deck is super consistent, except for the difficult matchup vs Typhlosian (it is not impossible just very difficult, a friend of mine running the deck beat one on Sunday) and it just destroys set up decks like the Truth. I really feel this has a chance to be a major deck this year.

 

[Tash]

Durant's biggest enemy is common sense.

So it has nothing to worry about?

 

[uuuufff]

How is it terrible in best of three? It is virtually guaranteed to never go to time...

don't think the deck can necessarily finish three games in 60 minutes and if it goes to time/sudden death, you've pretty much lost. I mean, i'm not sure, I'm just skeptical. It just seems like you're forced to win 2 games in a row, otherwise it just goes to time and you lose. I kind of hope I'm wrong though.

 

[JandPDS]

don't think the deck can necessarily finish three games in 60 minutes and if it goes to time/sudden death, you've pretty much lost. I mean, i'm not sure, I'm just skeptical. It just seems like you're forced to win 2 games in a row, otherwise it just goes to time and you lose. I kind of hope I'm wrong though.

I have never had a game go to time +3 yet, nor have I made top cut. My deck bubbled all 3 tourneys 5th, 5th and 9th
I to am curious as to how it would handel a 2 out of 3. Would my opponent be able to adjust thier play style after seeign alll of my tricks? Or will it not matter if I ca ndestory thier deck before they can get set up? I hope to find out this weekend. So far i have only played the same person multiple times only twice. Lossing to one playing Tyran @x and beating the othre playing Beartic/Kyrum The Truth and Gothitelle twice, so its a wash there. M ydeck is no longer a suprise in the local Metagame so maybe players will know how to handle it better. But as long as it keeps winning I will keep on playing it..

 

[Team CREAM]

I have no problems beating Zekrom with Durant, lol. Same with Reshiram abd Chandelure. If you get good flips with Crushing hammer, its gg. Discarding crucial components early REALLY helps.

 

[Vulpix Yolk]

It sure can't with the new Heatmor getting printed.

Heatmor – Fire – HP90
Basic Pokemon

[C] Hot Tongue: 10 damage. If the opponent’s Active Pokemon is Durant, this attack does an additional 50 damage.
[R][C][C] Firebreathing: 50 damage. Flip a coin, if heads this attack does an additional 20 damage.

Weakness: Water (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1

I don't think it could have been anyways though, it doesn't recover well with Vileplume out, and losses pretty hard to both the Dragons most of the time.

 

[JandPDS]

Last Saturday there would have been 4 durant decks in the T8. But I had to drop after swiss becuase I had a previous comitment and could not stay for the top cut. And then a Durant deck went on to win the entire thing, (Congrats Kenny on winning with Durant) Durant is a serious Tier 1 contending deck now.

 

[Rambo]

You can just tell that a Durant is reading these forums with a smug face right now.

 

[Warged]

Well I played turbo durant this weekend and went 6-0 in swiss and finished 3rd. The top cut time limit isn't really that much of a problem. Top 8 against 6 corners I was the second game done only cuz the another match was donk donk donk, so i was done in about 30mins for 2 straight wins. Top 4 I was worried about time in the end, but the third game I still had 20 mins lefts. As long as the durant players knows his deck and plays error free as fast as he can, he really doesn't have to worry about being slowed played by his opponent or just time in general

 

[CardKaptor]

Ah, now this part is interesting.

The opening post and the subsequent discussion is looking at primarily a turbo, pure Durant list. I want to point out the Cobalion argument not because I think it's good or bad, but rather because I think it's critical to Durant's subsequent success (or lack thereof, you be the judge).

Would a constant Devour discard be the right way? Or does Durant benefit with a second, possibly sweeping partner that can clean up players who play conservatively? Those are questions that I'm certain a few Durant players are trying to answer, and whether they've done so successfully isn't going to be widespread noticeable until Cities, methinks.

So, in lieu of slightly shifting the opening question to something crucial to the deck's success - do you guys think that a Durant deck running a major partner (not just techs) would be better than a constant Durant stream?

On Saturday I went 4-1 in Swiss and defeated my top 4 opponent (the other winner in top 4 dropped). I lost my first match to Cake with a set-up Coballion because I wasn't able to get my Coballion until early enough in the match and her one set-up Coballion rolled me. I beat a Chandy deck by going agro Coballion to prevent the trainer lock early on, beat Big Basics by using my Coballion to force him to make a bench (and wipe out all the energy he had on his Kyurem), and the mirror match by only ever setting up a Coballion. I also beat Magnezone/Eels by simply devouring.

In the top 4 I used Coballion to force my opponent to set up a bench, and in the second game had the Coballion but because of the first game my opponent set his bench up without me attacking. So of my six game wins in the tournament, even though I won all but one of them by decking my opponent, I would say Coballion played a major roll in 5 of them.

Also time was not even mentioned in my top 4 match-up.

Anecdotal evidence, to be sure, but I though I'd offer it up.

 

[Roarkiller]

I believe by now everyone has gone past the "durant is a bad deck" and "durant is against SotG" insults. Its success rate speak for itself, no point rekindling an old flame.

But just to add insult to injury, I got 2nd at Cities with a turbo version. Go ants

 

[Sweet]

Durant

Can someone please give me a Durant deck list, and some advice on the deck? I don't want to sound like a net decker, I just don't know where to start, and will most probably be changing some cards in the list to suit my metagame anyway. Thank you :smile:

 

[dancingaway]

Here's a list i made but can't be assed to use other than on the internet. It's pretty consistent and works pretty well.


Pokemon (5)
- Durant (4)
- Rotom (1)

Energy (10)
- Special Metal (4)
- Metal (4)
- Rescue (2)

Trainers (45)
- Collector (4)
- Dual Ball (2)
- Pokegear (4)
- Revive (3)
- Super Rod (1)
- Flower Shop Lady (1)
- Juniper (4)
- PONT (3)
- Twins (3)
- N (2)
- Crushing Hammer (4)
- Lost Remover (3)
- Alph Lithograph 4 (1)
- Eviolite (3)
- Catcher (3)
- Junk Arm (4)

P.s. May wanna put some Switch in there

 

[dreamdemon]

Well I don't want to tell how to play the deck and what to put in it. I depends on your play style. U will need 4 durant and two rotom and alph litho 4. That's a good start. Go from there.
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