Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Top 4 Decks in Eon

I don't think Gardevoir/Gardy ex is still the "floor sweeper" or whatever. It can be beaten. And if someone actually wanted to counter the thing its easy. SK Umbreon/ SS Espy in the same deck, something big behind it. U just t2 an Umbreon, get 2 energy on it and take them down slowly (or quite quick if u get good flips). Espy just wipes out any big threat they bring out and your other big guy can take care of whateve random crap they throw like wobbuffets. Without being able to use Psyshadow, that deck IS NOTHING.

Jim, I hope you do real well with Omastar, it looks like it can be awesome. Play me on Apprentice with it sometime, I need to see its powaaa lol.

I still stand behind what I said before. Blaze/Catty/Eggs seems like it can most easily take the big stuff, though Omastar should be able to have its way wiht it. Why? Cuz they don't swarm with Eggs like Omastar does. I think Aggron ex/Furret/Lord is really good too, I'll hopefully find out HOW good at the Modi tourney after Dragons Pre-release in st. louis. Its done well online I'll tell you that.

Don't get me wrong, Gardy is awesome. It'll take out A LOT of stuff... but when only 1 person is playing it (as this format seems really diverse) in a tourney, that's when it gets stronger. Nobody really techs against it like we used to have to do for Scizor and Gatr and Cargo.

However. I don't think its the #1 deck. Its certainly up there though.
 
Yesterday, I was torn between playing Chicken/Eggs/Kitty or Bite Back. Since my son already proved how good Gardy was by winning the tournament last week, I wanted to test my other two favorite decks. I ended up with the Bite Back because I didn't anticipate ANY Gardevoir decks (I was right). I was able to go undefeated until the final round when I ran into an Arcanine/Flareon deck and lost on the third turn due to a TERRIBLE draw and a GOD draw (and coin flips) by my opponent. We played a "fun" game after my loss, and TOTALLY proved how much better my deck was.

So, I think we have to be careful here. Sure, these top decks can loose, but in the long run, they're better than most. Just because we once beat a top tier deck doesn't mean that deck isn't top tier. Gardevoir is #1 in my book because it doesn't require 2-3 different types and combos like most of the other decks listed here require. Bad draw DOESN'T hurt Gardevoir decks like many of the other combo decks. JMO.
 
SteveP said:
Bad draw DOESN'T hurt Gardevoir decks like many of the other combo decks. JMO.
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Yes, it does. Now,th key word here is "combo" decks. The bulk of the other combo decks may be hurt more by a bad draw, but against most opponents a bad opening hand for Gardevoir is death in 3 turns. How so? Many people I talk to run a Pokemon ex counter. Most popular are SS Espeon and S Wobbuffet. If I can set up eiher by turn 3, I will probably be able to score enough of a lead OHKOing you while you set up. Now, of course I need to expound upon the subject more-in my experience, a "good" Gardevoir/ex deck will run very few basics... as such, it is pretty common for suchplayers to have 3 or less basics even after 5 turns. Most of the time, these basics are Ralts and a few, somewhat weak, supporting Pokemon. In these scenarios, Espy and Ffet will shread you before you can set up anything to stop them-especially Espy, since it can use a Boost Energy to make it so a surprise Gardevoir doesn't pop up and OHKO it. Why is this worse for Gardies? They are weak to said two counters, meaning that if one gets going, we could have a lot of OHKOs. I nearly did this to Random in our last game-I ran SS Steelix/Vaporeon and he ran Gardevoir/ex. Had I not "wasted" a Metal Energy on Steelix, my Wobbuffet would have minced him... Another reminder-this is on a "bad" set-up for a Gardevoir/ex deck. On a good set-up it wouldn;t have mattered, but in this one, for multiple turns, all he had was a Gardevoir ex, and then even after he got a Kirlia or normal Gardevoir into play and started slamming my Pokemon, I still could have mae a comeback if I'd have gotten another energy... but I didn't get that energy (and there were 20 total energy in the deck too).

My point? Bad set-ups are bad set-ups, and any decks that relies on a 50HP- basic (even as part of a chain) that has a "common" weakness are all in trouble equally.
 
Venusaur said:
Gardevoir is the top deck IMO because its weak to its own type,
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Gardevoir ex is also weak to Grass which is why Blazkien w/Exeggutor can have an advantage. I definitely think Gard ex and Blaziken/Delcatty/Exeggutor are the top 2 right now. I have been playtesting a couple variations of my red face paint Sharpedo/Espeon/Arcanine deck and it just can't beat those top 2 consistantly. Both can rebuild so quickly even if you do ko one of their big hitters. Sceptile looks to be the best besides that which is my next test subject. ;)
 
Pidgeotto Trainer, IMO K-Tops ex is #1 because Sat. I won a whole tourney beating Blazeiken/Eggy and 2 Sceptiles. If you play ti with Xatu it is unbeatable. Also play it with Wobbuffet and Gardevoir is Dead. Haven't played against Blaze/Delcatty though. Check my sig. for the deck
 
lol dude, nothing is "unbeatable". Tops isn't #1, it is not constant enough. Quit thinking your deck is the best because it aint, any deck can rise up for a tourney win. Look at Zam/Kecleon. It's good, but it aint the best, hell. no decks in eon are the best. It's all about how you play it, the setup.
 
Truk, I'm saying that everyone says Blaze/Eggs is the greatest deck, and what I mean is that Tops beat that deck. Still, I'm not saying my deck is the best. Zam/Kecleon was weird when i tried it out but I guess we'll have to see after ex Dragons come out. Besides, My Opinion is that Tops ex is #1. But, maybe it isn't. Gardevoir and Blaziken are still good
~Eevee
 
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Okay, after doing some playtesting tonight, I'm finding that Chicken/Eggs (with Kitty in my version), can consistantly beat Gardevoir. So, I take back my comment that Gardevoir is the best. Seems to me now that it's Rock/Paper/Scissors for the top decks because my Bite Back deck (Cacturne/RK9/Sharpedo) consistantly beats Aggron and Chicken/Eggs decks.

But, if you can get that Gardevoir deck steamrolling, it's certainly unstoppable, IMO. But that's the KEY, it must be steamrolling, or Gardevoir decks are not better than any other top deck out there.
 
I LIke kingdra decks!

I like most kingdra decks. Mostly all of them have been powerful. A new deck that i thought of might be able to kill BLAZIKEN only because of the weekness. Kingdra Ex and Azumarill. Its pretty strong, glad i thought of it. Basicly what you do is rare candy the horse and use drizzle and power the kingdra up. the hard thing is, is getting all the energies you need to complete the combo. Kingdra ex only takes 3 energies to do 50 plus 2o more for each extra water energy attached to it. and if you get rewal desperate use max bubbles eith Azumarill. I would like to see people playing it in the future turnies. you can see about more information about the deck in the stratigies section the name of topic is called "HYDRO DRIZZLE" I hope to see you check it out and give me some hints on what to put in and take out
 
SwampertEX said:
I played a revised version of my Raindance ex deck at my tourney and it didn't do so badly...
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People focus so much on beating Grdevoir now, that they build decks especially to counter it. Which is why in my Gardy deck, I play the most underrated card in NMF: Time Shard!! You knock out my active Gardy Ex? That's OK. Now I have another fully powered one thanks to that. I also have a Shiftry/Espeon deck to counter others Gardevoirs.
 
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Yeah Pat, you only attatch 2 energy to the new active poke, not an unlimited amount... But I think my new Cacturne/Swampert deck'll give Gardy a run for its money! lol
-Ben
 
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