Werewolf XVIII: Dimensional Clash: Wolves/Outlaws Win!

[pokemonfreak5]

VOTE: pokemonfreak5

I don't care how early it is in the day for me to vote. I'M VOTING. PF5 I am SO frustrated at you right now you don't even know! Thunderjolt should never have died. You didn't even give a good reason as to WHY he should be lynched. All you pretty much said was: "It's possible that he can be a wolf, I've seen wolves in a trio like this in other games" Well guess what??? If you haven't noticed ANYONE can be a wolf on here, and I think I just found one. Also: They could have helped us, and you just slimmed that chance EVEN MORE. Lastly, I see you are comparing this game to other games. STOP DOING THAT. This is a different game, with different people. Comparing this game to the other past games is an unacceptable reason to why we should lynch someone. :nonono:

-Just kinda reminding everyone, having a no-lynch is better than killing a fellow townie. I think people are starting to think that there HAS to be a lynch everyday. Yes, it's annoying when we don't get one, but It's better than lynching someone that can help us.

Well that's rather quaint.

1) Yes, I did give reasons, a number of people did. How about you go back and read the conversation. Or if you're too lazy to do that, press Ctr 'f' and type in thunderjolt.
2) Yes I did say that, I was pointing out the fact that he could be a wolf, as a number of people were convinced that because he was in a group he COULDN'T be a wolf. You just said it yourself that anyone could be a wolf, so you're agreeing with me here, but using it against me.
3) Yes they could have helped us, by killing unhelpful townies or even scum. But if one of them was scum (which it seemed likely at the time), that role would have been very dangerous over the next few days.
4) Yes, I am comparing SOME situations to previous games. That is because, particularly with this more traditional "role madness" pokegym game, they are going to be some similarities. Past and personal meta is a valid tool to be used when scumhunting. It doesn't mean that things are going to be exactly the same, but learning from the past can never hurt.
5) No. It is not. No lynches do not reduce the total number of kills for the day, it just increases the percentage of kills that are controlled by the wolves. It also gives up really our only way to win the game, which is to lynch the wolves. Go do some research and have a bit of a think of that and tell me if you still think no-lynches are a good idea.

Meh.

 

[PikaJewel]

Wow, this is getting pretty quiet. I guess the biggest posters have been lynched/NK'ed.



^This post seems like PJ was taking advantage of the situation, as this would obviously clear her as town (or at least non-wolf) if it's true. It's not enough to go off of for a full on vote, but she's definitely someone I'll be keeping an eye on in the future.

FoS: PikaJewel

Maybe I should do an ISO on her... thoughts? (unless someone else would rather do the ISO haha)

I wasn't trying to take advantage of the situation I just am not a good secret keeper and like admitting things when I think they are useful, I personally didn't know who to shoot but all the odds came down to someone who was less active. If you would like to do something like that then its your choice. now should we risk killing entie? I don't think it would be a wise idea now that thunderjolt is dead, not all the werewolf games had the same roles and ideas that could be the same with this one.

I would like to take a look into the behaviors of some of the other players.

 

[eclipse]

Shinori, that's the PR I give out when I'm targeted. Pikajewel, look at your own ISO. Remember those two days when you had that posting restriction? That's the kind of PR you'd get if you targeted me.

xxumbreonxx, the problem with no-lynching is that it doesn't get rid of wolves for the town. The wolves aren't going to respectfully stop killing for a night because the town didn't lynch anyone, and they're not going to kill their own. If we don't lynch, then how do you propose we eliminate wolves?

Everything else is gonna have to wait; I need to get to bed early tonight.

Pikajewel, did you read this?

FoSing Pikajewel as a wolf after she claims to have shot one makes no sense. If she was a wolf, she'd be better served by shooting someone that wasn't a wolf, and then lynching Pokemonrocks777 the next day. Shooting him for town cred is not efficient. For that shot, I don't think she is a wolf.

I am extremely displeased with the relative lack of activity (I apologize for last night, but I was up past my bedtime). Now, of the living players, the one that's given me the least to work with is Benson. Since someone needs to start something. . .

Vote: Benson

 

[PikaJewel]

Pikajewel, did you read this?

FoSing Pikajewel as a wolf after she claims to have shot one makes no sense. If she was a wolf, she'd be better served by shooting someone that wasn't a wolf, and then lynching Pokemonrocks777 the next day. Shooting him for town cred is not efficient. For that shot, I don't think she is a wolf.

I am extremely displeased with the relative lack of activity (I apologize for last night, but I was up past my bedtime). Now, of the living players, the one that's given me the least to work with is Benson. Since someone needs to start something. . .

Vote: Benson

I know that this may be taken as a bandwagon, but this vote is the one that would cause the town the least amount of pain if it is town, while I wish we had a better lead, there isn't much else we can do except ask for everybody to give out freely their role and what they can do at night, (which we all know is impossible.)

Vote: Benson

 

[xxumbreonxx]

Eclipse and pf5: I don't think a non-lynch is good. Actually, I find it quite annoying. HOWEVER, I believe it's stupid to vote on someone when you don't have a good reason to. I think that your reasoning, pf5, as to why Tj was a wolf, was very very anti town. Yes, you're right, it's plausible that he could have been a wolf, but it was a very slim chance (in my opinion) and I still can't believe people actually listened to you. I know we can't get rid of the wolves without lynching them, but lynching a townie just for the sake of making a lynch for the day isn't going to help us out, ESPECIALLY when this certain player could have helped us. Pf5: What about pokemon101? are you going to accuse him of being a wolf too because he was in that trio and it can be possible?

I'm still keeping my vote because I think this was HIGHLY anti-town.

 

[Pikamaster]

VOTE COUNT:
9 Remaining
5 to lynch

Pokemonfreak5- 1 (xxumbreonxx)

Benson- 2 (Eclipse, Pikajewel)

 

[Benson]

Pikajewel, did you read this?

FoSing Pikajewel as a wolf after she claims to have shot one makes no sense. If she was a wolf, she'd be better served by shooting someone that wasn't a wolf, and then lynching Pokemonrocks777 the next day. Shooting him for town cred is not efficient. For that shot, I don't think she is a wolf.

I am extremely displeased with the relative lack of activity (I apologize for last night, but I was up past my bedtime). Now, of the living players, the one that's given me the least to work with is Benson. Since someone needs to start something. . .

Vote: Benson

I hardly see that as a threat, the fact that you have nothing to work with means I'm probably doing something right, because if you don't know then nobody knows and as such I'm safer. All that needs to be said is I'm town with a passive role I have no control over. The idea is I haven't been trying to paint a target on my back so that when it does get activated, there is the most chance it can make a game deciding play.

 

[pokemonfreak5]

Eclipse and pf5: I don't think a non-lynch is good. Actually, I find it quite annoying. HOWEVER, I believe it's stupid to vote on someone when you don't have a good reason to. I think that your reasoning, pf5, as to why Tj was a wolf, was very very anti town. Yes, you're right, it's plausible that he could have been a wolf, but it was a very slim chance (in my opinion) and I still can't believe people actually listened to you. I know we can't get rid of the wolves without lynching them, but lynching a townie just for the sake of making a lynch for the day isn't going to help us out, ESPECIALLY when this certain player could have helped us. Pf5: What about pokemon101? are you going to accuse him of being a wolf too because he was in that trio and it can be possible?

I'm still keeping my vote because I think this was HIGHLY anti-town.

The trio idea wasn't the only reason we lynched him. Ill say it before and ill say it again, go back and read the post during the day and you'll see why we lynched him.
No I'm not going after pk101. He has done nothing to put himself on my suspicion list. You're understanding of the situation is completely flawed. We did not lynch TJ because of the trio. We lunched him because he was the most suspicious player and we couldn't assume that being part of the trio cleared him.

This is the last time I wil explain this. Now it's just wasting my time, and thus wasting town discussion time.

Benson, Darth pika and Kirbyking. You have all been silent today. Care to share your thoughts?

 

[kirbyking]

Sorry to all I have been busy. I'll catch up and try to make a post.

 

[pokemonplayer101]

FoSing Pikajewel as a wolf after she claims to have shot one makes no sense. If she was a wolf, she'd be better served by shooting someone that wasn't a wolf, and then lynching Pokemonrocks777 the next day. Shooting him for town cred is not efficient. For that shot, I don't think she is a wolf.

I was more going for the possibility of someone else shooting PR, and her just taking the credit. She doesn't necessarily need to be a wolf, either, as there are plenty of other anti-town WinCons in this game. But whatever.

I'll post more later, I have people over.
Posted with mobile style....

 

[PikaJewel]

...man this game just keeps getting harder and harder to play.. :smile:

Anyways Benson does have a valid point for us all to think about, he hasn't been doing a ton of town stuff but he hasn't been doing a ton of wolf stuff either.. I'm going to keep my vote on him though just for now.

 

[eclipse]

I hardly see that as a threat, the fact that you have nothing to work with means I'm probably doing something right, because if you don't know then nobody knows and as such I'm safer. All that needs to be said is I'm town with a passive role I have no control over. The idea is I haven't been trying to paint a target on my back so that when it does get activated, there is the most chance it can make a game deciding play.

Being immemorable at this point in time is really bad. This game is down to less than ten people, and the fact that you're trying to make a play with a passive role by doing nothing looks like you're trying to get by without attracting attention to yourself. My role is passive, but I am NOT going to stand by and hope that something will happen to me; it's clear that the most interesting thing that happened to me was being strung up as collateral by jpulice, and to rely on it to win the game is not in my best interest.

If you're worried about Pikajewel taking credit for that shot she didn't take, then whoever did take the shot should say something. Otherwise, I don't have a reason to think that she's lying.

Pikajewel, did you target me at all? The PR you were stuck with for two different days is identical to the one you'd get if you did target me. This affects my vote today, so please stop ignoring me.

Vote staying put for now, because that answer doesn't do it for me.

 

[Benson]

Being immemorable at this point in time is really bad. This game is down to less than ten people, and the fact that you're trying to make a play with a passive role by doing nothing looks like you're trying to get by without attracting attention to yourself. My role is passive, but I am NOT going to stand by and hope that something will happen to me; it's clear that the most interesting thing that happened to me was being strung up as collateral by jpulice, and to rely on it to win the game is not in my best interest.

If you're worried about Pikajewel taking credit for that shot she didn't take, then whoever did take the shot should say something. Otherwise, I don't have a reason to think that she's lying.

Pikajewel, did you target me at all? The PR you were stuck with for two different days is identical to the one you'd get if you did target me. This affects my vote today, so please stop ignoring me.

Vote staying put for now, because that answer doesn't do it for me.

I'll give it to you bluntly now, if I die by lynch today, you will die, Eclipse, and if you are town, I'd estimate that between yourself and I, unless the last(?) wolf is killed during the night, the town will lose.

 

[PikaJewel]

Being immemorable at this point in time is really bad. This game is down to less than ten people, and the fact that you're trying to make a play with a passive role by doing nothing looks like you're trying to get by without attracting attention to yourself. My role is passive, but I am NOT going to stand by and hope that something will happen to me; it's clear that the most interesting thing that happened to me was being strung up as collateral by jpulice, and to rely on it to win the game is not in my best interest.

If you're worried about Pikajewel taking credit for that shot she didn't take, then whoever did take the shot should say something. Otherwise, I don't have a reason to think that she's lying.

Pikajewel, did you target me at all? The PR you were stuck with for two different days is identical to the one you'd get if you did target me. This affects my vote today, so please stop ignoring me.

Vote staying put for now, because that answer doesn't do it for me.

I'm sorry I didn't realize you were asking me a question, but no, I never targeted you at all with any type of role.

 

[eclipse]

I'll give it to you bluntly now, if I die by lynch today, you will die, Eclipse, and if you are town, I'd estimate that between yourself and I, unless the last(?) wolf is killed during the night, the town will lose.

Thank you very much for your claim. However, I'm rather puzzled as to how you escaped my ability. Also, if you are worried about the town losing, then why aren't you doing anything to prevent that?

I'm sorry I didn't realize you were asking me a question, but no, I never targeted you at all with any type of role.

NOW I'm confused. The PR you displayed was the same one that I give out when I'm targeted. The fact that you didn't target me tells me that there's something else responsible for it.

As I very much want Benson to get off of his icy tailfeathers and hunt, and because I do NOT care if I die (better me than someone useful), my vote stays.

 

[Benson]

Thank you very much for your claim. However, I'm rather puzzled as to how you escaped my ability. Also, if you are worried about the town losing, then why aren't you doing anything to prevent that?



NOW I'm confused. The PR you displayed was the same one that I give out when I'm targeted. The fact that you didn't target me tells me that there's something else responsible for it.

As I very much want Benson to get off of his icy tailfeathers and hunt, and because I do NOT care if I die (better me than someone useful), my vote stays.

Because it's not a night role.

My method is analysis from a corner, I've watched the interactions of everyone, and I probably pin all 3 factions that aren't town to particular players, I'm currently writing a list as such, however, due to the nature of the role madness I have refrained from jumping to conclusions earlier due to somethings being very minor on their grounds. That said, I'm curious as to where DarthPika has disappeared to.

 

[DarthPika]

DarthPika has disappeared to the magical land of prefinals week and problems with bad room mates.

Expect a post from me later today.

 

[xxumbreonxx]

Pf5: I will most definitly go and read those posts, sorry If it seems as thought I am wasting your time. One last question for you (untill I read day 9 and have other questions for you) But: What is your reads on everyone?

Sorry, I don not have the time to make too long of a post, It's getting late and I have to go to bed soon.

 

[Benzo]

NON GAME RELATED POST:
If you have not noticed about the PM increase level being raised to 100-
this serves to notify you that it has.
Game Mods: enjoy!

 

[Pikamaster]

VOTE COUNT:
9 Remaining
5 to lynch

Pokemonfreak5- 1 (xxumbreonxx)

Benson- 2 (Eclipse, Pikajewel)