Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Werewolf XVIII: Dimensional Clash: Wolves/Outlaws Win!

First off, before I get lynched, I just wanna say thank you for this advice and I'll be sure to use it in the future. Now, don't take what I said as me giving up, I'm still gonna go down fighting, but in a realistic point of view, there is no way out. I've noticed lately that I've complained that no one would listen to me, but now, it seems that I've been missing the one thing that is holding me back. I've lacked confidence in my own ability and really, it makes me sick to think that. So, as a Last Will, here are my current reads and please follow them.


1. Sandslash7- Scum (His play has been off from normal and is taking advantage of me.)
2. Jellyfisher- I probably say Jelly's on the Town side. (Maybe Town)
3. PMysterious- Town (No brainer)
4. Human Destroyer- Null (Where is he?)
5. Dragonclyne725- Town
6. DarthPika- Maybe Town
7. Kirbyking- Leaning Town
9. Shinori- Null (Don't really know much about Shinori)
11. Thunderjolt- Null
12. Pokemonrocks777- Null
13. Scorri- Town
14. Jpulice- Leaning Scum (This is not a standard jpulice who is usually active.)
15. SMP88- Scum (One of the provokers)
16. JewelQuest- Null
17. Glaceon- Null
18. ProHawk- Null
19. Benzo- Null (I really don't see him lurking this much)
22. PikaJewel- Null
23. Eclipse- Null
24. Homeofmew- Null
25. Pokemonplayer101- Null
26. TheKing- Null
27. G landers- Null
28. Vegitalian- Null
29. Chanman- Null
30. Pokemonfreak5- Null
31. Jason- Null
32. Arcanine/Arbok Master- Null
33. Waynegg- Town
34. Benson- Null
35. Dave628- Null
36. StrongRhino- Null
37. Desufnoc- Null
39. Vablakes- Null
40. xxumbreonxx- Leaning Scum (Sorry Benzo, but your child is really offbeat for me and is trying to provoke me.)
42. Sheepbro- Null
43. Levity- Null
44. Your Face- Null

The reason why a majority of the people are null is because they are lurking like crazy. This is the behavior that bothers me. Lurking is not cool and even though I did it on MS, it was not cool and I admit it myself.

Also, I really ask to help the Enforcers out as I think they really don't have much left and I really want this game to be as fun as possible. The one thing that makes it not fun is when a faction is ran over quickly. Right now, at least 50% of the Enforcers are gone and no Werewolves and only 1 Outlaw has been found. If someone is an Enforcer, help that person out and please hunt for Outlaws and Werewolves. This is my will and I hope you all read this. As SS7 is my only real Scum read, I'll end on this note and I'll iso him this day.

Vote: Sandslash7 I think that's 9 on him already.

Quote the post that proves I'm a provoker in this.

Also, if you're town why do you care if the Enforcers stay? If we had lynched 3 straight Enforcers would you be saying the same thing? Does it really matter how they were killed? All that matters is that they are no longer a threat to the town.
 
I have a life. I don't have much time to post.

Glaceon, let's start with your thoughts on this day. I see a bunch of one-liners, but they don't contain much in the way of analysis.

That entire list of reads is quite confusing. Can you take into account what has happened during the other days? For example, there has been quite a bit of attention on Human Destroyer (D1), vegitalian (D1), and Vablakes (D1 and D2). How can those three be null? What about me being on your case for most of D1 because I thought you were tunneling people for ridiculous reasons?

I see no reason to move my vote, because I feel that someone who's unpleasant enough to get multiple mods involved does not belong in the game. This is NOT what I expected when I signed up here, and if I want to be this stressed out, I'll go back to where I came from (so at least I can properly chew people out without being banned).
 
Quote the post that proves I'm a provoker in this.

Also, if you're town why do you care if the Enforcers stay? If we had lynched 3 straight Enforcers would you be saying the same thing? Does it really matter how they were killed? All that matters is that they are no longer a threat to the town.

That's exactly my point. That's why I prefer to keep them alive and hunt the Outlaws and Werewolves first. In other words, go for the stronger factions first, then take out the weaker ones.
 
@SMP88-

Your posting history is really interesting. With your last post, I feel that your needing to be todays lynch option. Here is why:

In post #318- "No reason to reveal"
Post # 322- "Don't reveal and wait, scummy"
Post- #327- interesting wording here

meanwhile- your voting on Vblakes and holding it--

post #332- still some interesting wording

Why so many circular questions? Is it because asking carefully worded questions can entrap a player by way of confusion?

some time goes by, plenty of things going on between AT and Vegi...........

Post #switch vote from Vblakes onto Vegi..........

post#583- looking townie here, but still holding vote onto Vegi because Vegi has the most votes

post #607- You were on AT's case just a little, then defend AT against Vegi

Post #666- interesting again, seems to me that your looking to redirect any defense in favor of Vegi

POst #671- two people claim knowing Vegi can't be making up something out of thin air, still holding vote on Vegi- time wise, getting a solid lynch on Vegi is running short, so your looking as if your trying to keep a solid lynch onto Vegi

post#673 and 675- trying to discredit anything that is possible, "cornering" peoples thoughts into agreeing with you

post #685- stuck to your vote after another discrediting type of comment

now, hold on- post #720 is interesting-
Here you are switching your vote again............
so, your seeing that the Vegi lynch is not going to happen, so right back onto Vblakes

post #767- "lets lynch" sort of posting reminder, looking townie

Day 2:

post #820- "we have nothing to go on"- wait, didn't you say on day 1 that we need to look more into the KoTRT? You should have continued with that part from the last day, right? Oh, wait, I do not thik you care who gets lynched........... and suddenly onto this Pokemon hunt, oh yet again back onto Vblakes

Post #829- of course it does not matter names/roles, alignment matters more- so, you made this post why? Names make some sort of a connection at times. Most of the time from my own experiance and what I have seen- wolves do not have names that can easily be connected. Seems fishy to me as to why you said this in the first place. Sort of open ended question as it does have people's line of thinking into things that can easily be swayed.

post #831- you vote Scorri, discredit Redwall, and since Scorri is looking into Redwall- you do not like a player thinking outside the box perhaps? oh, wait, you don't because you need to influence people.

post #861 I thought you had a plan go look into the KoTRT, and of course you want to hunt for wolves- a great way to loo more townie. Why say "Sounds good to me?" ask who does he suggest? this post to me is a bit twisted around, I do not like the wording and how this post is just confusing.

post #903- here you are back onto Vblakes. Also in this posting, "If something else comes up"- really?
this whole time up to know, you have only agreed with others as to why others are scummy- not a post yet of your own findings as to who is a good lynch or any real reasons as to why your voting. self baseless votes, why not look into others being scummy at the same time, like, perhaps the KoTRT like you said day 1- oh wait, you said there was nothing to go on for day 2 left over from day 1...........

post#905- yup, cool story it is. It is about a person who has as yet to tell any story on finding or pointing out scum in any player on your own work. You jumped on a players case earlier about with holding info, yet you do it yourself? er what? oh wait, it was all just a cool story...... it was also cool of you to divert attention away from wolfs to other win cons as a refocus.... why would you do that? oh yeah, your vote is on a possible non town non wolf win con...........

post#908- wait, between post 905 and this one- it is not safe to assume what we are facing as far as roles go? huh? 905/908- contradict much?

post # 926- back onto the roles thing again? not deciding on who is a threat or not? huh? maybe it is only me, but this whole first part of your post is just not right. Also, you say we should all be scum hunting, yet you have yet to point out actual scum yourself yet. Of course, lets go after a threat, but it looks as if you have a reason to be set out to try and eliminate anyone who is not town that threatens your wolf win-con.

(insert Waynegg fiasco here)

so post #962- your a wolf, so you do know that Waynegg is ??????? to you or townie, so here you are making a falicy with "look at DC725" why make this falicy? is it because you do fear that if people do see Waynegg as townie and you as scum, then here is a redirect attention onto DC725?

post# 966- votes Waynegg

post#1036- unvotes Waynegg, back onto Vblakes. why, don't want to get looked at for keeping a vote onto waynegg if he flips townie and is lynched? If anything, look for scum or at least contribute with some leads as to some scum so we can get a lynch onto some scum. Simply reverting back to Vblakes is a easy simple shot to get a lynch going back on again to get in your free lynch. Up to this point, I do not see any real effort on your part to actually provide any scum leads.

day 3

post 1092- you finally drop the Vblakes case. first person to vote on a player- your right there to start your wolf tactics all over again. Of course you didnt take a bit of time to wait and really see if he could explain himself. You voted right off. Bad logic? Perhaps, ut it made sence to him. I am not defending PMysterious, but I would at least give a second chance to explain himself some before just tossing a vote onto him unless he fails to give some sort of chance to speak. Wolves tend to get a bit more aggressive when they lose their free lynch. You seem to be on edge a little, and since there are multiple win-cons in the game, you wolves KNOW you got to get in your free kill at night, so I see that so far during this day, your a little bit higher on the agressive side.

post#1112- you seem to be in that "pressure question" mode that wolves tend to do. Circular type questions or questions that keep the player in the spot light. You wolves know your needing to lynch power roles, as they threaten your own win con- so the first chance at getting info on a player who even whispers a hint at a role- you wolves will question in this manner. As how I see it is all. I also think that this is not really scum hunting, it is selctive questioning that is meant to entrap a player later on, and can lead to getting more info on a player so as to not have to kill that player at night if the lynch fails- it leaves it open for a night kill/day lynch option.

post #1124- does not really help you or the town. this is just more ways to get info on a player. Sure, you can say that it is out of trying to lynch scum sort of questioning/pressure- whatever, but using a player who has leaned townie (who you know to be town as a way to look town by way of agreeing with SS7)- wolves will do this to get attention off themselves, establish a "connection" to a player who leans townie at the current posting habits/availibiltiy of said player (this case SS7), defend that player to score in some good points to come off as being a townie for defending said player.
More questions to use to "pin" a player with later on so that the player gets twisted up themselves and can easily stumble on anything they said prior to make it so they are "scum" whe you trip them up later on, especially closer to the end of the day to "seal" the lynch.

You still, up to this point have not provided ANYTHING to this town by way of scum leads. Sure, your voting, and being active and posting- but not once have you pointed anything out on your own will to provide any scum leads.

#1140- here you are unvoting PM- a player thinks PM is not a wolf- and here you are back to saying something about roles again which of course now it makes a big deal and goes against what you said prior. It is really interesting how you have managed to "mold" into the flow of the day.

#1148- falicy again, redirect to Waynegg in defending SS7, which I already said my thoughts onto as to why your selecting SS7 (leans town) multiple questions. And here is the thing- why shoot out so many questions in a string like that? Oh wait........ a string of questions like that is easy for a person to miss one, or to be able to answer them all, let alone not be able to defend every point. A great way to make that player look even more scummier later on.

#1168- here you now have 2 options- you wolves like this, and it is really an opportunity here that you immediatly jumped onto. I don't like that at all. Why not stick to one player at a time as far as "scum" goes- most town players will vote for a player before a wolf will, as per my own experiance and what I have read up on. Most wolves do not activly "scum hunt" as it is, they just need ways to blend in, look townie, and rarely ever provide scum reads of their own. You jumping on 2 people in one post with both players already questioned by other players? yeah, looks as if your looking to revoert to Pikajewl if PMystriouse doesn't pan out and the day draws to a close. You want a lynch, you don't care who, you want your free lynch on anyone.

#1196- you revote onto PMysteriouse. You have no thoughts of your own. Really? AT just up and dropped dead, and all you can think is that PMysteriouse is to blame? My own first reaction to AT dying was not- "OH, PM did it!"- nope. Not me. And sure, some one else may have said it was PM, but you didn't doubt it or take the time to think on your own. Because up until this point- you are not actually scum humting. Feeding off of another players thoughts is what I think you did to get back onto PM's case with simple ease of convience.

#1220- yup, of course you find no ones vote on PM unwarrented. With how I believe you have spoken, your actions, your failure to do active scum hunting, your endless baragge of questions which you desire for pin-point prescision, your off/on voting pattern, your sudden jump onto players, opportunistic type wording to entrap a player to get them to stumble on there own wording, trying to look townie in quite a few ways, your back and forth on contraditve postings to fit a situation, and your need to pressure for acurate reads from others - look

I could go on as to what I see in your playstyle.

I do not like what I see coming from you, your intentions, nor your style of play as it does not favor the town, whom the town looks as if they are doing the scum hunting for you as you kick back and simply "go with the flow", and trying to pass it off as being a townie.

This is what I think, this is what I see.

VOTE: SMP88


TL;DR= sorry, but I outlined my thoughts on what I see and why I think SMP88 needs to go.
 
No links/quotes, posts taken out of context, and entire chunks of posts not addressed to come up with this narrative.

I don't have time right now to address everything in that post, but I will say this regarding PM. I kept (and keep) questioning him because he posted multiple questionable things per post. I'm not going to just ask 1 question and wait for a response on that before asking another. Just look at 1112 which you say is "pressure questioning". I question the 2 odd things from his post (SS7 and wanting to be lynched), try to figure out what previous games have to do with his post and ask for clarification on his role that he tried to explain in an earlier post. Not sure where "pressure questioning" is in that post.

I'll come back to this when I have time to sit down and go over all of the posts you pulled out. Until then, PM, please quote where I'm the provoker in this. Also, we really have no idea which faction is strongest at this time. Enforcers might have less numbers, but we've already seen a role that required 3 Enforcers to be dead, there's nothing that says that there aren't more Enforcers like that.
 
This post is to make sure Your_Face isn't modkilled. It has nothing to do with the current gamestate. He is currently unable to post due to stuff going on, so please do not modkill him, he said he will be more active. He texted me and asked me to tell you guys that.

Back to hanging from the castle wall, carry on.
 
I've been here but I haven't really been interested in your lynch

Also when people have emotional breakdowns I prefer to stay out of it (no offense of course)
 
I have a life. I don't have much time to post.

Glaceon, let's start with your thoughts on this day. I see a bunch of one-liners, but they don't contain much in the way of analysis.

That entire list of reads is quite confusing. Can you take into account what has happened during the other days? For example, there has been quite a bit of attention on Human Destroyer (D1), vegitalian (D1), and Vablakes (D1 and D2). How can those three be null? What about me being on your case for most of D1 because I thought you were tunneling people for ridiculous reasons?

I see no reason to move my vote, because I feel that someone who's unpleasant enough to get multiple mods involved does not belong in the game. This is NOT what I expected when I signed up here, and if I want to be this stressed out, I'll go back to where I came from (so at least I can properly chew people out without being banned).

I always do one liners. No fluff. I'm sorry if you dislike it.

My thoughts on this day:
PMysterious, I am curious about his behavoir, and my vote stands but hammering would be stupid.

waynegg, Still suspicious of. However him find the coding was cool.

PikaJewel, Sending secret messages seems scummy.


PikaJewel, what was your role in sending/receiving messages?



And if you could find the link about where I said all null, that could help with the explanation.
 
Well, glad to see that the temper tantrum is over.

@PMysterious:

I think that you need to go back and read some of SS7's posts. He wasn't the one who started this at all, in fact, he's been more trying to help you get out of your emotional state than some others.

Also, in response to you saying "I'm not a Vet because I've got a lot more to learn"....My Dad says that you keep learning no matter how old you get. Even Vets have more to learn.

For now, I'm going to pull my vote off you, unless it comes to either you or no lynch. But, if we do lynch you, remember that, if you leave, it was your choice to leave. And, not only was it your choice to leave, but it was a ragequit, which is not exactly honorable.

Unvote: PMysterious


Now, I've been thinking on PikaJewel's message, and my thoughts are that she's probably an Enforcer herself. I don't think that she'd be Dialga or Celebi, because it was stated that Mew would try to find them later to revive him. Nor do I find it likely that she was targeted by Mew's role, because that wouldn't have anything to do with her own role.

So, I believe that PikaJewel is an Enforcer, possibly the last Enforcer.
 
I don't really have much right now, I just felt like I should bring up the fact that people are starting to Unvote PM. I seriously doubt we will get another lynch with little over one day remaining. Do we really want another no lynch? I don't think PM has made himself any less suspicious.
PM~Why do you drop off of PikaJewel now? I thought she was "Mewtwo"
 
1. Sandslash7- Scum (His play has been off from normal and is taking advantage of me.)
2. Jellyfisher- I probably say Jelly's on the Town side. (Maybe Town)
3. PMysterious- Town (No brainer)
4. Human Destroyer- Null (Where is he?)
5. Dragonclyne725- Town
6. DarthPika- Maybe Town
7. Kirbyking- Leaning Town
9. Shinori- Null (Don't really know much about Shinori)
11. Thunderjolt- Null
12. Pokemonrocks777- Null
13. Scorri- Town
14. Jpulice- Leaning Scum (This is not a standard jpulice who is usually active.)
15. SMP88- Scum (One of the provokers)
16. JewelQuest- Null
17. Glaceon- Null
18. ProHawk- Null
19. Benzo- Null (I really don't see him lurking this much)
22. PikaJewel- Null
23. Eclipse- Null
24. Homeofmew- Null
25. Pokemonplayer101- Null
26. TheKing- Null
27. G landers- Null
28. Vegitalian- Null
29. Chanman- Null
30. Pokemonfreak5- Null
31. Jason- Null
32. Arcanine/Arbok Master- Null
33. Waynegg- Town
34. Benson- Null
35. Dave628- Null
36. StrongRhino- Null
37. Desufnoc- Null
39. Vablakes- Null
40. xxumbreonxx- Leaning Scum (Sorry Benzo, but your child is really offbeat for me and is trying to provoke me.)
42. Sheepbro- Null
43. Levity- Null
44. Your Face- Null

The reason why a majority of the people are null is because they are lurking like crazy. This is the behavior that bothers me. Lurking is not cool and even though I did it on MS, it was not cool and I admit it myself.

@PM:

-Kinda off topic-

LOL! Honestly you really have no reason to say sorry to my dad :tongue: He's not making my choices on here, so just because I'm his daughter doesn't mean I'm not still any other regular player to him :lol:

-On the serious side-

Sorry if you took it my questions as provoking you. I have no wish to make anyone angry on here, despite the situation. I was just asking questions. I guess it seems as though my questions weren't the greatest and I was quite confused at the time (which I believe will continue throughout the game :lol: ) Also I agree that all this lurking is crazy... (which I already stated earlier) but we really do need to do something about it... Btw I'm still keeping the vote on you, but I may be changing it if anyone starts to agree with Benzo and I that SMP88 is acting a little bit scummy (And yes, I actually read ALL of what Benzo posted, it was super long but it made some valid points) but you starting to earn some peoples' trust back, which is good if you are a townie like you said you are.

Lastly:

Can everyone just stop posting things about PM's "Melt-down"? I've seen so many posts about it, and if I were PM by then I would understand, but it would get annoying after a while. I'm not trying to defend him, but by now we all really need to move on, he's accepted his mistake.

I have a question for someone to answer I don't care who:
What exactly does this whole "Alignment" thing mean? I have a faint clue as to what is means, but not really. What does it mean when the alignment doesn't match the role....?
 
I don't really have much right now, I just felt like I should bring up the fact that people are starting to Unvote PM. I seriously doubt we will get another lynch with little over one day remaining. Do we really want another no lynch? I don't think PM has made himself any less suspicious.
PM~Why do you drop off of PikaJewel now? I thought she was "Mewtwo"

I'm kinda pondering about it now. I don't know if PikaJewel is Mewtwo or an Enforcer. If she's an Enforcer, leave her alone. However, if she's Mewtwo, lynch her.
 
Posting to say that I'll be out of town from tomorrow to next saturday with limited access in between.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough about this, but when I said "next saturyday" I meant the saturday after the upcoming one. Fortunately, the hotel I happen to be staying at today has free wifi in the lobby, so I'm just posting not to get modkilled. I'll be back at home (and back at at a stable interent connection) tomorrow.
 
I always do one liners. No fluff. I'm sorry if you dislike it.

My thoughts on this day:
PMysterious, I am curious about his behavoir, and my vote stands but hammering would be stupid.

waynegg, Still suspicious of. However him find the coding was cool.

PikaJewel, Sending secret messages seems scummy.


PikaJewel, what was your role in sending/receiving messages?



And if you could find the link about where I said all null, that could help with the explanation.

If you can condense what you feel and why into one line, that's cool. You haven't been particularly memorable, so that's why I asked. That null thing was directed at that long list of reads from PMysterious.

Keep in mind that the first person to find any code was scorri, not waynegg.

I will be extremely unhappy if today winds up being another NL. At the rate this game is going, I will have my 30th birthday before this game ends.

That's exactly my point. That's why I prefer to keep them alive and hunt the Outlaws and Werewolves first. In other words, go for the stronger factions first, then take out the weaker ones.

This would be a beautiful post. . .if we were playing an OC multifaction game. As this is NOC town/other faction game, I disagree. Any non-town lynch is a win for the town; thus, I do not care which faction goes first.
 
I am sorry for not being able to post more because I have been in Cancun and Cozumel for last several days. I will not return home until Sunday night. I only have Internet access at the hotel lobby. I am hoping that I can get online tonight but I am not sure if I can due to family activity or commitment. I was bother when Jewelquest had a small emotional outburst when Waynegg did not respond to his post. I was extremely bother when Pmysterious try to guilt the town from not voting for him. However, I like that he has improve the quality of his post after he calm down. I am still confuse as to why Pikajewel posted an encrypted message within one of his post.
 
I will be without internet access for the rest of today, and most of tomorrow. My vote is already cast, so I don't think it will be an issue. We MUST make a lynch today. I don't want the wolves having full control over who lives and who dies.
 
scorri would like to point out that there are less than 10 hours left in this phase. scorri would really prefer if there was a lynch today. PM needs 6 more votes scorri believes. PM is really the only lynch that is going to occur tonight. scorri would encourage people to vote sooner rather than later.


Also, scorri believes that eclipse was talking about scorri finding the MEW message, which scorri did find before any other messages were found.
 
I was going to make a bigger post, but my computer gliched out and now I can not get off the home page. Posting from my phone. I will say PM I like the way your posting now, but I don't think we can turn around a lynch this late in the game day. My vote is confirmed.

On the matter of SMP, Benzo I cannot tell if what your saying is true because me and a lot of other people in this forum do not have time to read through every single post he made unless you give us a links or quote them.
 
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