JewelQuest
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In my last post, I meant 'last game day', not 'yesterday'.
Werewolf XVIII: Dimensional Clash: Wolves/Outlaws Win!
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PMysterious
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1. Who said I hated SS7? I don't hate the guy, but he's the most dangerous player in the game to the Wolves and the most valuable asset in the game to the Werewolves. I just don't get why the Wolves leaves him alive every time he's Town. Thankfully, with that Wolf win in the last game, that actually increases the probability of the Wolves actually taking him to consideration.
2. I really don't want to be lynched, but its more of a gamble I'm wishing to take with my knowledge.
3. That's what you're supposed to check. Past games actually give you a good idea about a player's meta. SS7 is possibly the best player on the Gym and he's proven that on numerous occasions. He was able to identify Cyrus (Cardzmaster2004) in WWXII and was able to identify the last wolf (DragonClyne725) in WWXV. Both of which are really huge highlights of his Town game. There is really no further explanation needed.
4. Okay, my role works in an interesting way. For every 2 votes on me, I get another vote added to the player I voted for. What's funny is that if I sat alive in a 5 player situation, I can't get lynched at all, but I can lynch someone with one vote as long as the other 4 are on me. :lol:
In other words. the equation is 1+ (x/2) rounded down, where x is equal to the amount of votes on me. Its a really interesting way to put it.
@DC725: The reason why I reveal this information now is because of pressure on me (which I can care less about) and the fact that its actually relevant. I mean, there's really no valid point against me.
Also, I should mention that I am not giving out reads anytime soon. Every time I seem to put reads out there, I seem to jynx myself and all of the people that I mention are Wolves are Town and vice-versa. My luck is practically the brains of one of the Teletubbies and the defeats of every villain in video games. I can't really give out pics but practically, put a Teletubby and Giovanni together to get my point. I just don't know. How the heck can I actually give out good reads and not get every single one of them wrong? Its just so freaking stupid.
My luck is almost as stupid as getting the best deck in the world removed by a Forum Mod for being too ridiculously overpowered that they actually banned my account in December 2009 and I didn't get it back for 2 months. I tried posting a BW-On variant of it in 2012 and I got banned AGAIN for 5 days because they said that the deck should not be revealed to everyone in America as then everyone would play it and then they'll be haunted by me for the rest of their lives. The funny thing about that is, before that took the deck off and banned me for the 5 days, I got 10,000 views and then someone decided spread the rumor of the Mysterious deck coming back after the deck first getting removed. In fact, a good friend of mine in 2010 posted the Mysterious deck and is banned until 12/31/9999 for the exact same reason I was banned for 2 months. It was just so stupid that they decided to put up a Policy that if anyone posted that deck at any point, they would be banned until 12/31/9999 like one of my friends already was. Don't believe me, then I have this quoted from 2 years ago in April I believe and 5,000 people INCLUDING SS7 and AbsolTrainer approved this crap. They removed it, so I removed the link as it would be worhless.
evil psyduck said:
The thank count went up to 4,500 just because of one deck. In fact, a lot of people even said this.
a lot of people said:
It was just so ridiculous that I heard that it was the reason Lakak stayed banned on this site. Don't ask how that works as I was the one that took the biggest blow out of everyone..
Anyway, that's not the point. The point is that I have no hate for SS7, I just think his time for being the Town's savior has expired. Sorry for all of that in the middle, I just had to get it off my chest. Anyway, to sum THAT up, don't trust me and I trust you. :lol:
Well, that's all I gotta say. So, my vote stays on Vablakes for the 3rd time and THIS time, we're going to get it.
DragonClyne725
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Um...wow. I'm glad that you got that off your chest, but it's really not relevant with anything related to this game.
If you "can care less" about the pressure on you, then why would you reveal your role because of the pressure? Maybe I'm just missing something that you are saying.PMysterious said:
I took out all the useless stuff you posted.
1. & 3. This is the quote where the hate comes from.
I still don't know where this turn on SS7 came from. If you think SS7 is the best player for the town then why would you want him killed? There's 45 players in this game, there's probably at least half a dozen protecting roles spread out in various ways. Even so, why would you want to be lynched tomorrow if SS7 isn't night killed? How does that help anyone? If you think your role is so important then why would you want to be lynched?
2. What's this knowledge?
If you have reads then why won't you give them out? Holding onto them, even if you don't think they're good, isn't going to help the town at all. We'll decide whether we want to put any weight behind any reads you post.
What's this "don't trust me, but I trust you" stuff too? You complain that people don't read your posts and don't take you seriously, then you post 3 paragraphs of useless stuff and make remarks like that.
xxumbreonxx
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@Eclipse: I understand why you don't like us not voting, but there is a reason behind it ya know? My reason is because what looked like my enemy (PMysterious) had a very interesting role that if I did vote upon him/her, I would have given them an advantage. I know my enemies aren't going to go away unless I vote, I just want to be sure on who I want to be lynched. Now that PM has fully explained what their role is (not saying I fully trust them at this point) I will still hold my vote. I'm not sure what the other guy's excuse is for not voting though.
He explains how it works in a post shortly after this quote. If you read backwards, you'll see a vote count with PMysterious and far more than one vote to his name. It's rare that a host verifies a role in that manner, so I've concluded that PMysterious is telling the truth about his role. Furthermore, I have yet to be in any well-balanced game that gives an anti-town faction that kind of voting power. About the only way I can see this role going to someone who is not town is if it stops working on MYLO/LYLO.
Do you still think he's anti-town? If so, then I hope your role allows you to get rid of people you're suspicious of in other ways. Otherwise, it looks like you're standing on the side while not committing a vote to someone who you seem to feel should be lynched.
Vote stays put until my underlined question is answered.
pokemonfreak5
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Hi all.
Just checking in. I've been away again on a camp for a bit so access has been limited.
I should be able to get back on for a bit of time within the next 24 hours. Enough to write a proper post. But then ill be off the radar again. However after I get back ill be able to be a lot more active. Theres a few things I've picked up I'd like to share after reading through today.
Just checking in. I've been away again on a camp for a bit so access has been limited.
I should be able to get back on for a bit of time within the next 24 hours. Enough to write a proper post. But then ill be off the radar again. However after I get back ill be able to be a lot more active. Theres a few things I've picked up I'd like to share after reading through today.
Pikamaster
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VOTE COUNT:
39 Remaining
20 to lynch
PMysterious- 5 (Prohawk, Benson, SMP88, Waynegg, Pokemonplayer101)
PokemonRocks777- 1 (Scorri)
Shinori- 1 (Human Destroyer)
Waynegg- 1 (JewelQuest)
Vablakes- 3 (PMysterious)
xxumbreonxx- 1 (Eclipse)
39 Remaining
20 to lynch
PMysterious- 5 (Prohawk, Benson, SMP88, Waynegg, Pokemonplayer101)
PokemonRocks777- 1 (Scorri)
Shinori- 1 (Human Destroyer)
Waynegg- 1 (JewelQuest)
Vablakes- 3 (PMysterious)
xxumbreonxx- 1 (Eclipse)
I haven't chosen yet because I'm not quite sure who to vote for, voting for people who can't defend themselves is not what I like doing, PM though I may eventually vote for if he starts acting scummy soon. I'm also a GIRL. just so you know....
And who I think may be a good target? That I'm still having trouble with, AT has mysteriously disappeared, and was very inactive the Second day, so he has my FoS. Vablakes may still be a good vote but I'm not sure about that either.
Wait are you saying that you know something about PM that we don't?
xxumbreonxx
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Eclipse: To answer your question, Yes, I do think he's still anti-town, but there is no other way I could try to get rid of him unless I vote him to be lynched. Now to think of it, I will vote on him, because I can change if my gut says otherwise.
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MysteriousHuman Destroyer
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But what happened to the fact that you aren't going to vote him because it increases his vote?
Also that role is way too powerful to be on anti-town (at least I think), so I'd say PM is probably town.
Also that role is way too powerful to be on anti-town (at least I think), so I'd say PM is probably town.
JewelQuest
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Wait...Didn't PM say that every two votes his vote increases? He had five votes on him in the last vote count, and Vablakes now has 3....Something odds going on here.
JewelQuest
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Sandslash7
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PM ~ You failed to answer my questions. Please do so.
There was really no point to your extended metaphor. Please do not muddle the thread with long "anecdotes" that do not pertain to this game.
However, as the new vote count implies, your PR is confirmed. I do not doubt that you have this role. In fact I saw no reason for you to lie about your ability in the first place.
Your alignment, however, is still in the air. Given the roles that have already flipped (Lynch: X being one example, which was on an alignment that is not townie) we cannot assume you are townie just because you told the truth about your role.
There was really no point to your extended metaphor. Please do not muddle the thread with long "anecdotes" that do not pertain to this game.
However, as the new vote count implies, your PR is confirmed. I do not doubt that you have this role. In fact I saw no reason for you to lie about your ability in the first place.
Your alignment, however, is still in the air. Given the roles that have already flipped (Lynch: X being one example, which was on an alignment that is not townie) we cannot assume you are townie just because you told the truth about your role.
xxumbreonxx
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You make a valid point there. I was confused, I didn't really know if I should vote for PM, but I did anyway because I know I can change it whenever. One player that IS bothering me is Eclipse, and I have a question for him:
Why do you think it's a good idea to bully people? Me AND Pikajewel have valid reasons for not wanting to vote. Some people like to take their time before they make a decision, and that can be more helpful at times rather than just voting on someone because they do one thing thats "anti-town" in your opinion. If you are going to vote on something as small as that, then I will do it right back.
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MysteriousVote:Eclipse
I think I am inclined to side with Eclipse on this one. Now that PM's role is confirmed, I can't really see it being a role given to a wolf.
UNVOTEMysterious
Going down my list. Shinori was generally pretty active D1 and more than willing to throw his votes around. One post D2. We need to figure out if he just plain quit, if he just got bored, or if he is a wolf hiding out.
VOTE:Shinori
Shinori, its time you spoke up.
UNVOTE
MysteriousGoing down my list. Shinori was generally pretty active D1 and more than willing to throw his votes around. One post D2. We need to figure out if he just plain quit, if he just got bored, or if he is a wolf hiding out.
VOTE:Shinori
Shinori, its time you spoke up.
thunderjolt
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PM--do you realize, that even if you are town, you have completely messed up? By revealing your role, the wolves will just kill you or not vote for you in the days to come. What you should have done, however, is act overly wierd (kind of how you did) and not reaveal the role. You should have also done this later in the day, that way you could lynch someone that you though was scummy. But now...it's useless. Your role no longer benefits our town (since it's only one extra vote for every 2 on you). Why did you feel that you needed to reveal?
I mean, you could have made some sort of epic play to lynch a wolf....and now you can't.
But just incase you are hiding something, I'll go on and vote you
VOTE: PMysterious
I mean, you could have made some sort of epic play to lynch a wolf....and now you can't.
But just incase you are hiding something, I'll go on and vote you
VOTE: PMysterious
PMysterious
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1. Thanks.
2. Oh really? Do you actually think I'm a Wolf? With a role like that, its nonsense.
3. That is true, but I actually become the most dangerous late game player as I can't be lynched at that time.
4. My point is to Doc me and I'll be sure to increase my skill as time goes on. By the end, that's when I want pressure.
5. See 3.
6. That is a good point, but like I said, you are the best Town player on the site and your records prove that. Heck, not even the modern day players can match you. So, its a simple 3 step. First, you become a threat. Then, the Wolves kill you off. Finally, the Town is screwed without someone able to fill the role.
7. The wolves know your past experience and know you are a big threat. The fact that they didn't decide to kill you off yet is a miracle as you actually are one of the best Gym players. The only real player I know that can outclass you in skill for this game on the Gym is Ikrit.
8. Once again, gamble. I always hit the jackpot when I gamble. (Not)
9. Past games FTW!
That is all.
PM, why would anyone vote for you late game if they know you votes count for more that way? Wouldn't it be better for everyone to just place their votes on who they want to vote out instead of giving you that power? Your role is great late game if nobody knows about it. Springing a multiple vote out to lynch a wolf is great, but now nobody is going to vote for you just to give you power to throw multiple votes around.
UNVOTE: PMYSTERIOUS
Also, show where SS7 said your a wolf. All he said is that you aren't confirmed to be town. With 5 factions in this game there's no guarantee that you're town at all.
UNVOTE: PMYSTERIOUS
Also, show where SS7 said your a wolf. All he said is that you aren't confirmed to be town. With 5 factions in this game there's no guarantee that you're town at all.