pokemonforever
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Lost World was lost in print production. My Giratina ate it. It should skip being printed in a set and just go straight to league promo.
The reason so many people are pissed is cause sense worlds many of us have been playtesting for Cities and various other events. Not placing a card which to many was a given in Triumphant in the set was damaging to a lot of players hard work and effort. We bascially were given the finger by them saying yeah all that testing you did was for nothing ha ha.
So before anyone gets on there High Horse and say well you shouldn't be playtesting this far out blah blah. just remember 1 thing Like most things in life being ready for anything is better then being prepared for nothing.
Lost World will not be the end of SP and it won't make Gengar the best deck. Go ahead and just quote me, right now. It'll be released in our February set just like any normal card and everyone should stop making a big deal about it.
I really don't see why you think it won't be good? You have so many cards that came out in this set to give support to it. Twins is amazing, as well as Hunter/Seeker. You don't have to knock out Pokemon, so while your opponent does damage, you get to search for whatever you want. Saying that it won't be good is just a dumb remark.
How can you say it won't beat SP? Seeker adds at least one PKMN to your hand, and you will lose your Lv.X's in hand because of Gengar's RIDICULOUS attack!
The deck as a whole will not take any skill to play, it will be set up Gengar, rip Pokemon from the hand, Drop stadium and win(wash, rinse, and repeat). It is that easy. People are talking about it, because it is GG like in the since that it WILL dominate the format once it is a playable deck.
Could we see the cards we're missing released as a promo set?
I know we're missing more than just Lost Zone from the set and it seems like all cards cut deal specifically with the Lost Zone. Both Magic and YGO release certain sets of cards in mini-sets at least once or twice a year (see Championship Boxes for YGo and From the Vault sets for MtG). Could we later this year (maybe around the Holidays) see these cut cards released in a promo box for MSRP of $20? This seems perfectly viable to me...
~Cardz.
Could we see the cards we're missing released as a promo set?
I know we're missing more than just Lost Zone from the set and it seems like all cards cut deal specifically with the Lost Zone. Both Magic and YGO release certain sets of cards in mini-sets at least once or twice a year (see Championship Boxes for YGo and From the Vault sets for MtG). Could we later this year (maybe around the Holidays) see these cut cards released in a promo box for MSRP of $20? This seems perfectly viable to me...
~Cardz.
If it does beat SP (which from testing it didn't that well) they'll just play Absol G Lv.X. You can't knock it out, while they're OHKOing a Gengar Prime every turn.
Could we later this year (maybe around the Holidays) see these cut cards released in a promo box for MSRP of $20? This seems perfectly viable to me...
Or they could sell it with a book like they did promocroak.
Yeah, stop the madness. no promos please, unless they print 300,000,000 of them.
About those who wanna tell us Lost World wouldn't be that bad. Sorry, but if all the Japanese players and even some well-known US players like Ruiner say it actually is that bad, I'll trust them. We don't need a format where nothing but Gengar, SP and anti-Gengar-decks have a chance to survive. That would be just like Plox, Magmortar and maybe Banette, but even worse. There are so many viable cards in the set (Magnezone, Machamp, Nidoking, Dialga & Palkia etc) that all would have been made unplayable if Lost World was there.
When have "all" the japanese players said anything about the mechanic? Or are you basing this logic on the rumored winning decks in Japan? You do know that the tournaments in Japan can often time be different than the tournaments here, right? For example, tournaments in Japan often use 30-card decks with 3 prizes. I'm not sure if you can make a strong case about a mechanic being vastly overpowered just by a few tournament statistics, especially if it isn't as indepth as the ones found in the tournament section of this forum. If all your basing your information on is a few tidbits that the deck has won a few tournaments over there, then I think your statement is uneducated. I also fall back to my first question, when have multiple Japanese players come onto this forum within the past year and told us that the Lost World mechanic is vastly overpowered?Sorry, but if all the Japanese players and even some well-known US players like Ruiner say it actually is that bad, I'll trust them.
This is kind of comical to me because the format for Battle Roads pretty much was either SP or anti-SP. When I say anti-SP, I don't mean just Machamp or Mewtwo Lv.X. I mean fast stage 2's with 1-energy cost attacks that can keep up with the speed of SP. You're saying that you don't want to see a format where the only viable decks are SP (check), Gengar (hey look, a new addition), and anti-Gengar decks (pretty much the same as anti-SP decks for BRs). You don't want to see a format with 3 options compared to the 2 options we had for BRs? I don't get what you're saying unless you felt the format for BRs to be much more wide than how I perceived it.We don't need a format where nothing but Gengar, SP and anti-Gengar-decks have a chance to survive. That would be just like Plox, Magmortar and maybe Banette, but even worse.
From my viewpoint, I've noticed that many times, a good 90% of the pokemon in a set never sees competitive success in tournaments. There's a very good chance that the Pokemon you mention above will still see no success at Cities, even in a format without Lost World.There are so many viable cards in the set (Magnezone, Machamp, Nidoking, Dialga & Palkia etc) that all would have been made unplayable if Lost World was there.
On the one side, there are results, yes. On the other side, friends of mine have talked to Japanese players at Worlds.When have "all" the japanese players said anything about the mechanic? Or are you basing this logic on the rumored winning decks in Japan?
Uhm... ff Lost World is already that strong with 3 or 4 prizes, how overpowered would it be in a format with 6 prizes?You do know that the tournaments in Japan can often time be different than the tournaments here, right? For example, tournaments in Japan often use 30-card decks with 3 prizes.
Vilegar isn't actually an "anti-SP-aimed" deck. But yes, the format wasn't the best. However, Battle Roads are not competitive tournaments, and many players come up with tier 2 decks, making the format still interesting. It has been a huge difference between normal Battle Roads, where a lot of Charizard, Steelix and other decks are around in the same amount as Luxchomp, and the Prague Cup, where there was almost only SP and anti-SP at the front tables.You don't want to see a format with 3 options compared to the 2 options we had for BRs? I don't get what you're saying unless you felt the format for BRs to be much more wide than how I perceived it.