Who Here Works Out

[Jaeger]

THis thread is seriously lacking in P_F sarcasm.

Heck no, you have spammed up one to many of my threads already, make useful and productive comments or get out.

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Sounds like too many carbs to me. A little too much trouble for something eaten hastily to stave off appetite as well.

Yea its really not hard to get those pointless carbs like in cerial or toast. Stuff that loaded full of carbs but really does nothing to fill you up.

 

[putgik]

I have been working out for 2 years now. I go to the gym 3 times a week and i think this is the most beutiful sport ever. I think of it as a lifestyle because you must pay attention what, when and how much you eat 24/7. It is also a great motivator to stop unhealthy life, because all of your work would be in vain if you get drunken every weekend. Combined with any kind of sport, body-building is the most healthiest of all as well.

Unfortunately it has more rumour than anything else and because of this people can go in a wrong direction (destroying their joints for example). Anyway, they know the most about diets, just look at professionals. They have extremely high mass of muscle and still ripped off. Still, people don't trust their dietary methods which is sad.

My thoughts about that are if someone doesn't care about his or her physical body, then they are "lowbrow". Of course it does not apply to anyone who hasn't got the chance to eat properly and do sport.

 

[prodigal_fanboy]

Sounds like too many carbs to me. A little too much trouble for something eaten hastily to stave off appetite as well.

It's quality carbs, though, if you avoid eating crap. Oats are very slow-digesting and high in soluble fiber. Peanut butter is also beneficial. You still should be aiming for 30% carbs in your diet unless you have a good reason. If you are diabetic or pre-diabetic, perhaps, but then again what I included in my post doesn't have the same kind of quickly-processed carbs that spike blood sugar.

 

[Jaeger]

Your right about the different kinds of carbs I guess I never aim for a certain amount I know I easily get that many.

 

[dave628]

This is a free calorie intake.You can track how many calorie you consume a day. It also provide you an nutritional analysis of your diet.
http://www.mypyramidtracker.gov/

There are other sites that allow you to guess how many calorie a particular food contains.

 

[Karate_Guy]

While I don't go to a gym and work out I get enough from just attending Karate. THe workouts are usually pretty basic, some jumpin jacks, push ups of varying types, sit ups, and leg lifts. Although alot of days sense I get to decide the warm ups i like to torture*cough* i mean help the kids by putting them into a Pai Sai stance which is pretty much sitting in a chair, but with out the chair if that makes sense and leave them there for about 3 minutes. ANNNNNYWAYS while I do not have a super strict work out schedule just the little bit of a work out almost every day keeps me in pretty decent shape.

 

[tehmoe]

i go 3 days a week. sometimes 4 if i have the time. when i go to the gym i do straight weight training/resistance training.
my main form of cardio is ITG(in the groove)/DDR depending on what i feel like playing. i play both of those for an hour or two.

make sure to take your weight in protein in grams a day. ie: 200 pounds of weight = 200g of protein.(only if you plan on building muscle/take less if you don't maybe half or 3/4)
take pop out your diet, add more water in fact all water and possible gaterade/powerade
avoid fat loss pills/potions/concoctions ie: slimfast, caffeine pills, hydroxycut(has been known to give liver problems).
take omega 3's because they are good for your heart. strong heart = better ability to exercise.
vitamins help as well.

make a goal and stick to it. if you plan on losing Xx amount of weight don't give up til it happens, then increase your goal to something else once its achieved.
make sure you change your routine biweekly because eventually you will plateau and no longer gain muscle mass/strength. and having more muscles increase your metabolism which means you burn more calories throughout the day, even while sleeping.
if you dont like lifting weights, i really recommend that you start liking it. lifting weights burns twice as many calories as cardio does. cardio is still important(like i said i play a lot of DDR/ITG) so if you dont like to run/bike/row then play a very active game. even kinect adventure/sports would work because i have played them and if you play them properly(no shortcuts do the full motions) your heart will be racing at moments.

all i can say for now

 

[ColdCoates90]

It's quality carbs, though, if you avoid eating crap. Oats are very slow-digesting and high in soluble fiber. Peanut butter is also beneficial. You still should be aiming for 30% carbs in your diet unless you have a good reason. If you are diabetic or pre-diabetic, perhaps, but then again what I included in my post doesn't have the same kind of quickly-processed carbs that spike blood sugar.

Carbs are so easy to get in a diet though. You don't have to go out of your way to incorporate them, they generally find you in one way or another. To me something with [healthy] peanut butter, oatmeal and honey and walnuts(these things are so fatty) just screams too many carbs, especially for a snack.

I tend to get my carbs throughout the day with a little in each in meal.

 

[prodigal_fanboy]

Carbs are so easy to get in a diet though. You don't have to go out of your way to incorporate them, they generally find you in one way or another. To me something with [healthy] peanut butter, oatmeal and honey and walnuts(these things are so fatty) just screams too many carbs, especially for a snack.

I tend to get my carbs throughout the day with a little in each in meal.

You're not going out of your way to get carbs, you're taking in energy (a snack) to get you from one main meal to the other.

And not all fats are bad fats. (Edit: Virtually) anything about fitness/food that you read in a magazine sold to women is wrong, most likely. Which implies that most of those fitness tips mom handed to you only have a kernel of truth to them, an the trick is finding that kernel and doing something with it.

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/27/12/2777.full

High fat does not necessarily mean it will make you fat, that is basic broscience.

Walnuts are calorie dense, so poor portion control will make you fat, but that's because they're chock full of useful nutrients.

 

[ColdCoates90]

You're not going out of your way to get carbs, you're taking in energy (a snack) to get you from one main meal to the other.

And not all fats are bad fats. (Edit: Virtually) anything about fitness/food that you read in a magazine sold to women is wrong, most likely. Which implies that most of those fitness tips mom handed to you only have a kernel of truth to them, an the trick is finding that kernel and doing something with it.

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/27/12/2777.full

High fat does not necessarily mean it will make you fat, that is basic broscience.

Walnuts are calorie dense, so poor portion control will make you fat, but that's because they're chock full of useful nutrients.

Without even looking at that article I can tell you that poly and mono unsaturated fats are the best types of fat for you. You can usually find them in in a lot of healthy foods. That doesn't mean you want a ton of them though. A ton of anything is bad for you. An ounce of walnuts has 18g of fat(1.5 of which is saturated, the rest are good in small doses) for only 4g of protein. I'd rather eat soynuts, personally.

Either way I get plenty of carbs in the fruit, oatmeal, whole wheat bread, and pasta I eat daily. Carbs are so easy to find that you don't have to make a dedicated snack to them, especially one with, like I said, too much fat and sugar resulting from the peanut butter,honey, and walnuts. That and its just not practical to make a batch every single day for on the go. If you honestly have the time to do it every single day, I'm shocked. Most people "don't even have time" to workout for 15 minutes.

 

[Jaeger]

I think time is all relative people find time for what is important. Its important for some people to sit down and watch TV for 2 hours a night, while I would rather go workout.

 

[prodigal_fanboy]

much fat and sugar resulting from the peanut butter,honey, and walnuts.

This tells me you either need to read better, shop better, or prepare better.

The honey is to taste, and can be done without. You won't be picking up that much sugar from the peanut butter or oats unless you're an imbecile about it at the grocery store.

As for the walnut issue, two ounces is half your daily recommended intake of fats (assuming you're burning 2k calories/day). You can cut the fat from elsewhere in your diet, or not eat walnuts.

I recommended walnuts because they're a tasty and beneficial snack.

Lastly, you should actually go read the article I linked you to rather than assuming you know exactly what it would say.

RESULTS—The walnut group achieved a significantly greater increase in HDL cholesterol–to–total cholesterol ratio (P = 0.049) and HDL (P = 0.046) than the two other treatment groups. A 10% reduction in LDL cholesterol was also achieved in the walnut group, reflecting a significant effect by group (P = 0.032) and time (P = 0.036). There were no significant differences between groups for changes in body weight, percent body fat, total antioxidant capacity, or HbA1c levels. The higher dietary polyunsaturated fat–to–saturated fat ratio and intakes of ω-3 fatty acids in the walnut group were confirmed by erythrocyte biomarkers of dietary intake.

For individuals who ate 30 g (1 oz) of walnuts per day. The rest of the experiment is clearly laid out in the link. It was specific to individuals with type two diabetes, a concern of yours, hence I linked it.

Lastly,

That and its just not practical to make a batch every single day for on the go. If you honestly have the time to do it every single day, I'm shocked. Most people "don't even have time" to workout for 15 minutes.

I'm not going to actually say what I want to say here. You are fully capable of filling in the blanks.

 

[ColdCoates90]

This tells me you either need to read better, shop better, or prepare better.

Wrong. healthiest peanut butter I've ever seen had 11grams of fat per 2 tablespoons. Now, lets make 3 balls of the stuff and load it with some honey and walnuts and see how much fat adds up.

The honey is to taste, and can be done without. You won't be picking up that much sugar from the peanut butter or oats unless you're an imbecile about it at the grocery store.

lol @ imbecile

As for the walnut issue, two ounces is half your daily recommended intake of fats (assuming you're burning 2k calories/day). You can cut the fat from elsewhere in your diet, or not eat walnuts.

Oh cool. I love getting half my fat in the form of snacks. I'll just eat grass for dinner and skip the turkey, chicken, mozzarella cheese and everything else.

Lastly, you should actually go read the article I linked you to rather than assuming you know exactly what it would say.



For individuals who ate 30 g (1 oz) of walnuts per day. The rest of the experiment is clearly laid out in the link. It was specific to individuals with type two diabetes, a concern of yours, hence I linked it.

Diabetes is a concern of mine? Since when? Also I glanced through the page for giggles, and the people the experiment was conducted on were ages 50-67 ish and had a disease and diets previous to the experiment which we are unaware of. I hardly think this applies to anyone here as we are much younger, don't eat the same way, and most of us I gather don't have diabetes. For all we know they were eating bacon and hamburgers everyday and were swapped out with walnuts. Wahoo.

I'm not going to actually say what I want to say here. You are fully capable of filling in the blanks.

Go ahead. If you think for a second that anyone on here ran out to the store and made a week's worth of your "healthy" snack then, I'm not going to actually say what I want to say here. You are fully capable of filling in the blanks.

The key thing you are aiming for is practicability. You can suggest anything you want but if its not practical, its not happening. Most people on here are going to cheat on their diets, I promise you. Suggesting to them to go out and buy foods which aren't even that great for someone trying to lose weight is hardly doing them a favor. Further suggesting to prepare a snack- something eaten on the go and quickly- is also not practical. Something like an apple, jerky, soynuts, banana,etc. require no prep time and are way easier for someone to get a hold of .

I think you've got the right idea and this might be applicable to someone a little more disciplined , but I wouldn't suggest this stuff to just anybody.

 

[prodigal_fanboy]

Wrong. healthiest peanut butter I've ever seen had 11grams of fat per 2 tablespoons. Now, lets make 3 balls of the stuff and load it with some honey and walnuts and see how much fat adds up.

Then don't make two tablespoons! That's a huge amount of peanut butter! Just coming back to emphasize that I'm in shock that you would imply two tablespoons is reasonable.

Oh cool. I love getting half my fat in the form of snacks. I'll just eat grass for dinner and skip the turkey, chicken, mozzarella cheese and everything else.

Turkey and chicken are rather lean, mozarella is fine in moderation. You could actually exercise, increase your daily caloric needs and thus the amount of calories you can take it.


Diabetes is a concern of mine? Since when?

Confused you with secrets213131.

Also I glanced through the page for giggles, and the people the experiment was conducted on were ages 50-67 ish and had a disease and diets previous to the experiment which we are unaware of. I hardly think this applies to anyone here as we are much younger, don't eat the same way, and most of us I gather don't have diabetes. For all we know they were eating bacon and hamburgers everyday and were swapped out with walnuts. Wahoo.

You didn't read the abstract thoroughly. The comparison was between the CHANGES between the two groups over the time period and their proscribed diets. If you read the full article, you'll take note that not only did they proscribe diets for all three groups to effectively control intake, but they also had routine checks of food logs (and excluded patients who were morbidly obese or had backgrounds of ill health from participation) to control this well.

Don't eat the same way? I try and maintain a 30/40/30 ratio (with a bias towards protein as I am on a cut at the moment). My food-conscious friends generally eat the same way. The internal metabolism does change with age, and I haven't read enough scientific articles to make any well-founded claims.

Go ahead. If you think for a second that anyone on here ran out to the store and made a week's worth of your "healthy" snack then, I'm not going to actually say what I want to say here. You are fully capable of filling in the blanks.

I don't eat those peanut butter balls. They were a generic solution that aimed at delivering sustained energy and protein for satiety to someone who wanted a decent snack. I work out sufficiently to where my calorie expenditure justifies a fourth meal: breakfast, early lunch, early dinner, late dinner. However, I do run out to the store to make healthy snacks and have healthy snack options available: I keep a large supply of raw oats on hand for if I need to eat something quick on the run.

The key thing you are aiming for is practicability. You can suggest anything you want but if its not practical, its not happening. Most people on here are going to cheat on their diets, I promise you. Suggesting to them to go out and buy foods which aren't even that great for someone trying to lose weight is hardly doing them a favor. Further suggesting to prepare a snack- something eaten on the go and quickly- is also not practical. Something like an apple, jerky, soynuts, banana,etc. require no prep time and are way easier for someone to get a hold of .

I think you've got the right idea and this might be applicable to someone a little more disciplined , but I wouldn't suggest this stuff to just anybody.

I don't often suggest specific snacks because my experience with "snacking" is limited. But I do offer this advice. I routinely offer diet and fitness advice to friends when I ask and proscribe workout regimens that are appropriate to their level of fitness.

I will tell you the same thing I tell my female friends who refuse to give up partying two nights a week and want to lose weight. Weight loss is incredibly easy after the first two weeks. It takes discipline to change your habits and stick to them, however once healthy and conscientious nutrition and exercise becomes a lifestyle, it becomes much easier. If you let yourself cheat routinely, that becomes ingrained as a behavioral pattern as well. Humans are incredibly habitual, on the whole. If you let yourself cheat occasionally, you never quite eliminate your hankering for sweets/greasy food/etc.

Suffer the pain of discipline or the agony of regret.

Replies in bold, this should be seventeen characters.

I am genuinely sorry for confusing you with secrets, as mentioned above.

 

[cpeterik]

I didn't know this forum existed until my topic got moved here.. haha.
I go to the gym 6 days a week. It's almost an obsession, but I love the place. I have all my little routines and it's just awesome to blow off steam. I usually start with a half hour of zone cardio just to get warmed up. This is while sipping an NO2 pre-workout of course. Then it's onto kettle bell training 1 day, biceps triceps and chest the next day, and legs the net. then repeat. end every workout with 10 minutes of abdominals. 1.5 hour workout total. then i drink something like 50 grams of whey while soaking in the hot tub. Mmmmmm.... I think I'll go riiiiiight now.

 

[plaidlesspez]

I've been obsessing over nutrition the past month, so I'll share some of my findings...

Best diet (from all my findings so far) you can do for your health is high carb, low fat, low protein. The ratio to aim for is 80/10/10 (meaning 80% of your caloric intake from carbs, 10% fat, 10% protein).

You wanna get ~5g of carbs for every 1 lb of bodyweight. Carbs are important because they're what give you energy... your body really doesn't utilize that much protein and most of it gets converted to carbs. So it's inefficient for your body to waste energy converting them to carbs, you might as well just eat them.

From what I understand, eating too much protein also isn't good either because the conversion process creates side products that aren't good for the body, but I don't know a lot about this yet.

The best source of carbs is fresh ripe raw organic fruit, hands down. They're the most easily digestible and assimilated food out there.

So the best way to eat is a raw vegan low fat diet, consisting of mainly of fruit and then you wanna get 2-4% of your calories from leafy greens.

Of course it takes some major will power to get yourself to eat that way, but if you're extremely dedicated and have goals in mind, it's doable.

I know all this is going to sound completely contrary to everything you've learned, but I'm trying to really dig deep into the subject. I'm planning to do more research, but this is just what I believe right now.

If you wanna know more, these two books are a good starting point:

The China Study
The 80/10/10 Diet

 

[Mama_Luigi]

I work out at the PokeGym

In all seriousness, I don't work out at a gym, but I do regularly excercise. I'm not crazy about bodybuilding though, I just want to be in shape.

 

[czech59]

I used to work out every day back in high school-- now 3 years removed-- I had wrist surgery after my senior year of football and never really got back in the swing of things. I used to be a healthier version of husky, and since I haven't exactly kept up my muscle mass, I'm surprised as to how much muscle I do still have left.

My biggest issue, being a poor college kid, aside from the motivation to start working out again, is eating healthily at school without having to buy my own food. The cafeteria isn't exactly the best place, and the meals there are really spotty. I usually don't eat a full 3 meals per day, and am a somewhat picky eater.

Over summer I did P90X for 1/3 of a cycle and lost 20 pounds while following the fat burning diet and exercise. Problem is, dorm room is very small and there is no place to accommodate the doing of the P90X. I'm guessing since I lost so much weight that I just have either a lot of 'water weight' (here is where i start making up my own terms for things) or weight that is easily shed.

For being a 20 year old 5'9 245 lb kid I'm pretty athletic for my body, but I'm not sure how exactly to accomplish the same diet I had when I used P90X to go along with me starting to at least lift weights at my school's gym again. Any suggestions? Remember: poor college kid = no $$, at the mercy of crappy cafeteria.

 

[ColdCoates90]

I've been obsessing over nutrition the past month, so I'll share some of my findings...

Best diet (from all my findings so far) you can do for your health is high carb, low fat, low protein. The ratio to aim for is 80/10/10 (meaning 80% of your caloric intake from carbs, 10% fat, 10% protein).

You wanna get ~5g of carbs for every 1 lb of bodyweight. Carbs are important because they're what give you energy... your body really doesn't utilize that much protein and most of it gets converted to carbs. So it's inefficient for your body to waste energy converting them to carbs, you might as well just eat them.

From what I understand, eating too much protein also isn't good either because the conversion process creates side products that aren't good for the body, but I don't know a lot about this yet.

The best source of carbs is fresh ripe raw organic fruit, hands down. They're the most easily digestible and assimilated food out there.

So the best way to eat is a raw vegan low fat diet, consisting of mainly of fruit and then you wanna get 2-4% of your calories from leafy greens.

Of course it takes some major will power to get yourself to eat that way, but if you're extremely dedicated and have goals in mind, it's doable.

I know all this is going to sound completely contrary to everything you've learned, but I'm trying to really dig deep into the subject. I'm planning to do more research, but this is just what I believe right now.

If you wanna know more, these two books are a good starting point:

The China Study
The 80/10/10 Diet

Interesting. Does it take into account workout routines though? I can't imagine so little protein in my diet.

I used to work out every day back in high school-- now 3 years removed-- I had wrist surgery after my senior year of football and never really got back in the swing of things. I used to be a healthier version of husky, and since I haven't exactly kept up my muscle mass, I'm surprised as to how much muscle I do still have left.

My biggest issue, being a poor college kid, aside from the motivation to start working out again, is eating healthily at school without having to buy my own food. The cafeteria isn't exactly the best place, and the meals there are really spotty. I usually don't eat a full 3 meals per day, and am a somewhat picky eater.

Over summer I did P90X for 1/3 of a cycle and lost 20 pounds while following the fat burning diet and exercise. Problem is, dorm room is very small and there is no place to accommodate the doing of the P90X. I'm guessing since I lost so much weight that I just have either a lot of 'water weight' (here is where i start making up my own terms for things) or weight that is easily shed.

For being a 20 year old 5'9 245 lb kid I'm pretty athletic for my body, but I'm not sure how exactly to accomplish the same diet I had when I used P90X to go along with me starting to at least lift weights at my school's gym again. Any suggestions? Remember: poor college kid = no $$, at the mercy of crappy cafeteria.

I'm 5'9 and 20 years old too. When at the school cafeteria I go for the chicken tenders, turkey burgers, or salad if I eat there at all. I don't know what is offered at your cafeteria but here are some basic tips:

NO Soda, drink water.
Avoid Ketchup/Mayo/Ranch. Mustard is great though.
Look for any way to add vegetables to a meal. The rawer,the better.
Avoid anything fried.
Bring your own lunch.
Try to drink a glass or two of water before eating. Dehydration can affect hunger.
Use your head! Look up the foods online to see the nutrition facts.

 

[Jaeger]

Same here I have alot of protien in my diet