Who thinks that Landorus looking pretty useless?

[FSULugia]

Did you/do you go to FSU? I graduated in 2010, but just moved away from Tallahassee about 6 months ago.


http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=171028

The second most successful deck was Landorus ex based, so it would seem as thought your analysis is fundamentally flawed, at least compared to what has actually happened in real life.

If it's the cornerstone to the second most popular deck, then it seems as though it is definitely not a useless card, right?

It would probably be the most successful card if the #1 deck didn't happen to hit it for weakness.

Nah I didnt I just like the football team lol. I agree that Landorus is pretty good, never really a fan of the card just because I dont like cards that cant be exploited very easily but thats what makes it good is that its a solid attacker. Having a solid attacker like Landorus is a secure play, its not really a risky one compared to how Blastoise decks play. They rely on draw power to bail them out. They have good odds so they usually do get bailed out.

 

[Otaku]

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Dude (Edit: Since I didn't quote, I'll clarify that I am addressing FSULugia directly with this), you realize that Blastoise/Keldeo EX are using a strategy that is almost literally as old as Basic Pokémon beatdown (a.k.a. Haymaker") decks? Blastoise/Keldeo EX decks do have a risk to them, but it pretty much all "set-up" based. I do not wish to disparage the skill of any players; if you are not a good player, there is certainly even more risk to Blastoise/Keldeo EX decks. XD

Other than Evolving, however, Landorus EX is probably harder to exploit than Keldeo EX paired with Blastoise; the former requires intelligent use of spread, and patiently building up for the big hits, unless of course you encounter fortunate Type matching. If such Type-matching truly oversimplifies playing Landorus EX, that is a quirk of the local metagame. Blastoise/Keldeo EX is mostly just making sure you don't botch your resource management while you pound, pound, pound on the Defending Pokémon (again, barring key match-ups).

In short, both cards/decks are on the "easy" end of exploitation; both are cards with established archetypes and if you're looking to be creative, neither card/deck is a good place to start. ;-)

 

[rcxd999]

I've just looked at a few websites where they post the lists and outcomes of leagues and tournaments and I've decide that Landorus is a pretty good card. Don't get your hopes up as Keldeo provides more uses but I still say that Landorus is a pretty awesome card.

 

[AzUK]

I've just looked at a few websites where they post the lists and outcomes of leagues and tournaments and I've decide that Landorus is a pretty good card. Don't get your hopes up as Keldeo provides more uses but I still say that Landorus is a pretty awesome card.

What was the topic of this thread again?

Hi, the reason I think Landorus is looking pretty useless is because (1) Landorus is only a counter to Zekeels, Rayeels and Darkrai variants, which people are playing less and less of because everyone wants to play Keldeo more because it instantly wins against Landorus, (2) As explained Keldeo is becoming more popular and easily wins against Landorus, (3) These days a simple Eviolite causes Landorus to only do 10 damage a turn, forcing it if it can use it's other attack to use it, (4) Landorus's second attack doesn't knock out any Ex, only reducing them to 20-30HP with which they can still attack, taking 2 prizes from Landorus, (5) Landorus is usually used with Mewtwo Ex but again Mewtwo is only a counter. If Mewtwo were to knock an Ex out in Keldeo/Blastoise, a Mewtwo would take it's place and could easily be given 2 energy. By the Keldeo/Blastoise's second attack the opponent's Mewtwo would fall. (6) There's a Klinklang coming in Plasma Storm that prevents Exs from attacking other steel types in the deck. Since Mewtwo uses DCE in the deck, the new Cobalion Ex coming out can just use it's first attack to discard DCE along with doing 30 damage and it still can't be attacked be the decks main attackers. (7) When this card comes out the only thing able to attack in a Landorus/Mewtwo deck would be Terrakion. The counter for non-Exs is Cobalion NV. It's second attack does 80 damage and prevents the opponent's Pokemon from attacking. The opponent is then forced to switch or let Terrakion be knocked out next turn but still won't be able to knock out the Cobalion unless it has taken 30 damage, which Landorus can not do thanks to Klinklang. In summary, I don't think Landorus will be around for much longer.