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Worst Worlds Ever!

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I don't think there's anything to fix here; there needs to be some sort of cut-off. It stinks that 16 players missed top cut because the tournament was one player short, but if you dropped it to 127, then you'd have the same issue if 126 players entered the tournament. There's always going to be a "top player not to make the cut." It sucks but it's the only way to be fair.

RM

P.S. I just started playing earlier this year, but I want to play competitively this coming season. Where will I find the rules for tournament play/CPs/etc.?

I don't think you get it. Of course you need to cut it off somewhere, but you ideally want to cut it off so that as few top cut slots as possible are determined by tiebreakers. T32 would have accomplished that, since all the 5-2s would have made it in and only three or so spots would have been determined by tiebreakers between the 4-3s.

It has nothing to do with top players not making the cut. It has everything to do with people who went 5-2 (a phenomenal record) not making the cut due to factors primarily outside their control.
 
no, he already is better than probably most posting here, and nothing will change next year ... we still can't take him to multiple battle roads and marathons to get enough cheap points to get an invite ... you must be one of those who are benefiting from this broken system and obviously don't want it to improve ... and don't worry, if nothing changes, my child decided to not play until it is fixed ...

I am a Judge. So the system neither benefits nor hurts me.

I do believe that the system should encourage players to play the game more. And I do believe that it should reward players that play well and in a lot of tournaments.

I think this year's system did a reasonable but not great job of doing that.

Is my system better than the current one? I really don't know. Now that BRs don't have a Top Cut, I think that BRs should give out one CP only to the Undefeated player, and no other CPs.

I think that Nationals should be worth more than Regionals, but should not be enough to singlehandedly earn a player a Ratings Invite to Worlds. Two or even three Regionals should not equal a Ratings Invite to Worlds. Three States should not equal a Ratings Invite to Worlds. 8 Cities, well, I'm not sure on that. It certainly shows mastery over a metagame over an extended period of time. But I'd like to see players display good results across multiple metagame formats.

Marathons help, sure. But they are not everything. There are quite a few players that earned Ratings Invites without participating in a Marathon event. They also played in every event they could get to locally.

I do know that the CP "fix" that you proposed is awful in every imaginable sense of the world. It removes incentive to play the game. It overvalues big events to an absurd degree. The last time this kind of thing happened was I believe in either the 2008 or 2009 season, when ELO was still the name of the game and the K-value of Nationals was a ridiculous 48. What that meant was that basically everybody in the Top 16 at US Nationals assured themselves of an Invite. Anybody who went Undefeated in Swiss assured themselves of an Invite. It was stupid, it was silly, and it was thankfully changed very quickly.

Big events are valuable. But so is consistent performance across lots and lots of events. The purpose of Ratings Invites have always been to reward those that are consistently good over a large quantity of events, even if they were not momentarily great. It turns out that it rewards both types, and that shows by your son's 42nd place in his age group playing in only 4 events.

4 events is not enough to show consistently good play throughout the season. It is enough to show momentary greatness. Your son was not great enough at those events, and was subsequently unable to reach his goal.

If you're 42nd, that means you're either in BC CAnada, or you're in Arkansas. Both are fairly heavy OP areas. BC is essentially Vancouver, right? There were 2 CCs, 6 BRs, an SPT and a Regional in BC last year. In Arkansas, there were 6 BRs, 3 CCs, and an SPT. Not to mention the two Regionals not too far from you guys (Texas and St. Louis). There were plenty of opportunities for your son to prove himself in those events.

He didn't.

So he didn't make Worlds.

As far as your son's threat to leave the game, as long as it takes people like you who refuse to follow SOTG and actually listen to others around you and respect the game like an adult is supposed to, then good bye. See ya! Not sad to see you go. Not at all.
 
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I almost want to say that Pokedad is the junior/senior that didn't get the invite. No one older than 15 would act like this. Look at his grammar, look at the way he responds.

He is absolutely not a dad, but a player in the senior division. Bet $
 
I almost want to say that Pokedad is the junior/senior that didn't get the invite. No one older than 15 would act like this. Look at his grammar, look at the way he responds.

He is absolutely not a dad, but a player in the senior division. Bet $
I'd bet against that, just because I don't think someone making these arguments would actually be able to think of a "cover", so to speak.
 
I edited that quite heavily while you were posting that. That initial post was rather hasty, and I kinda needed to expand on that a bit...
I was actually referring to pokedad1's stint when I said "is this the end?" :/ honestly, I think this thread should just be locked already. It's a blatant waste of everyone's time.
 
i bet pokedad1 is just a person who has sour grapes b/c he can't manipulate the CP system as much as the ELO...sorry you have to go to more than 4 events...
 
I don't think you get it. Of course you need to cut it off somewhere, but you ideally want to cut it off so that as few top cut slots as possible are determined by tiebreakers. T32 would have accomplished that, since all the 5-2s would have made it in and only three or so spots would have been determined by tiebreakers between the 4-3s.

It has nothing to do with top players not making the cut. It has everything to do with people who went 5-2 (a phenomenal record) not making the cut due to factors primarily outside their control.

You're right. It's not really fair if a superior player happens to miss cut just because they got paired up badly. How do you solve this problem though? Do you just look at the top 16 then also take everyone tied for lowest record?

RM
 
I told you the best players were not at worlds. Masters was lost on a misplay. He had a chance to win the mewtwo war and lost because he did not take out mewtwo with darkrai. Seniors and juniors were no different. Most of those players there did nothing in major tournaments. They got there playing a zillion battle roads and cities which gave more points then they should have. If pokemon does not lower the points from battle roads and cities and make states regionals and nationals more important in getting an invite and stop putting worlds in places only the rich can afford to go, then this will continue.

If you are really a Pokedad, you already know that you owe the Worlds participants an apology.
 
Since I'm from Portugal, I think I should be defending Igor. He won 4 Nationals in a row with undefeated records. Not good enough? He won cities, two regionals and many battle roads. He's a great player, and he deserved that win. He's a great guy and you shouldn't be bashing him just because you weren't the champion, and this aplies to other divisions. You don't go to a worlds final being a bad player.I seriously doubt you won any major tournament.

When 2nd place scooped to him in the finals so he can be his "guardian" to get a trip for both of them doesnt mean Igor "won" Nats this year. He was in the finals and happened to face a friend. He could have still won or he could have lost and portugal wouldnt have the world champ today.

Not saying Igor isnt a good player, he obv. is! Did he win Nats when he was 14? Hard to do 4 in a row in MAs, unless he is a "young MA" and won his 1st at 14 and still be 17 in 2012.

Keith
 
can we all just start saying off topic stuff to get this pathetic thread locked?

that team plasma lugia EX looks kinda fun.
 
Assuming we have a rotation next year of BW through NXD, I was wondering what happens to Reuniclus and other rotated pokemon that still exist in the format in Shiny form. Would the non-Shiny still be legal?
 
Either get back on topic, or yeah, it'll get locked just like you all wanted. And every single one of you who helped get it locked will get infractions.

Your call, guys.
 
Eh . . . it's pretty clear by now that pokedad1's bizarre, insulting, and utterly self-serving opinions are treated with derision by practically every member of the community.

Thread will probably die of its own accord.
 
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