Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Anti Wailord Tech

Too bad it's attack costs WWWC. So you are going to put WWWP(WP) on it?
 
^Yes, I am going to do this. 5 Energy for 60 - and free retreat and being imune to Sonic Blade is huge, imune to Bringdown can save you after you just retreated after 180 from Sonic Blade, and being imune to Ghost Head can help stop a Banette swarm as well. Plus, a Wailord swarm can be pretty devastating. All this for 5 Energy.

Alternitivly, you could just use that new Unown that is WP just as a Tool/Pokemon.
 
Arceus999 said:
^Yes, I am going to do this. 5 Energy for 60 - and free retreat and being imune to Sonic Blade is huge, imune to Bringdown can save you after you just retreated after 180 from Sonic Blade, and being imune to Ghost Head can help stop a Banette swarm as well. Plus, a Wailord swarm can be pretty devastating. All this for 5 Energy.

Alternitivly, you could just use that new Unown that is WP just as a Tool/Pokemon.
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5 energy w/o energy accelerator is incredibly slow. Yes, the healing is awesome ONLY after u start attacking with it to get into sleep. But before u get 4 energies on it, it's gonna depend on leftover and dawn stadium only (IF you can get them out).
 
discard Wailord bring it back with garchomp LvX attach 3 energy then you could talk about a good card but come on 4 energies, really your dead by the time you get him out, your DRE sacrifice hit points don't forget. I hope somebody makes this thing work it would be kind of cool to have something too play with.
 
Check my sig. This is what I think is a good Wailord deck. You may think otherwise. If so, post it. I have put Blasty CG in here specificly to counter Electrode, though if Ray ex or Electivire pops up, this will also handle them.
 
This reminds me of the blissy discussion when everyone was emphasizing on how bad it was and then there where a few people who acknowledged that it had potential. I think of Wailord this way 200HP is 200HP now matter how much damage you have to do it, will do to it, can do to it. It is 200HP there is no pokemon in the game with that amount of HP and for it to be a stage 1 non-ex makes it even more ridiculous. Now if you are going to tech this thing with a deck like electrivire or something with meganium then you have to make sure that deck can have a good chance against everything in the meta and electrivire and meganium both fall to Garde and Magmar. Wailord does not have to be a main attacker I will give my wailord a WP Water and Psychic energy and let him sit there with a leftovers attached while I build my bench and if I do want to attack with wailord he heals himself! That body with a leftovers and 200HP is nothing to poke fun at no matter how you look at it. We have switch and warp point for retreat so I don't see the huge deal about that, people played steelix ex just fine and his retreat is so big I thought he was resistant to normal at one point. The successful wailord decks will know how to utilize wailord to its full potential that is all I have to say.
 
I disagree. Blissey had a lot more potential than Wailord does. The only common point is the HP and the stage one factors. Blissey's attack was super cheap. Wailord's attack is super expensive. Blissey could pull energy from the discard and attach to itself. Wailord, well can discard 4 energy to retreat :p. Blissey could be splashed into any deck possible because it was colorless and could run off of any energy. Wailord can only be played in decks that run water energy because it's attack costs WWWC.

So Wailord is nothing like Blissey. Wailord has nothing going for it other than it's HP and in this day-and-age, where pokemon are getting overpowered and doing more and more damage, HP isn't that important.
 
Just play Holon Circle or Glacia's Stadium. Maybe memory berry could be used if Wailmer has any decent attacks.
 
i'm not saying wailord is going to win any tournies, i haven't seen it in action, i just don't want it to keep me from doing well in a tourny
 
I dunno.
Wailord is OK.
200 HP is nice BUT it's attack really does suck. 60 for 4 and possible healing isn't that great.
200 HP for a stage 1 is the ONLY thing that makes it decent, but I don't see it bein anything too threatening especially with Gardylade being so popular.
 
Of, course, Wailord is the best Pokemon card ever. You all knew that, right?

200 HP on a Stage 1 non-ex or Lv.X. It walls Gallade, Gardevoir does absolutly nothing to it, it dosen't care about Absol discarding, DWD (although not played) can't do damage, with Lake Boundary, Magmortar gets one-shoted by it, Blastoise or Togekiss can Accelerate Energy, Xatu provides more healing, T2 decks usually max out at 80, and is that going to matter in the long run?... shall I go on?
 
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I disagree. Blissey had a lot more potential than Wailord does. The only common point is the HP and the stage one factors. Blissey's attack was super cheap. Wailord's attack is super expensive. Blissey could pull energy from the discard and attach to itself. Wailord, well can discard 4 energy to retreat :p. Blissey could be splashed into any deck possible because it was colorless and could run off of any energy. Wailord can only be played in decks that run water energy because it's attack costs WWWC.

So Wailord is nothing like Blissey. Wailord has nothing going for it other than it's HP and in this day-and-age, where pokemon are getting overpowered and doing more and more damage, HP isn't that important.
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You are comparing it to blissy as an attacker, but not as an pokemon card in general. Wailord can do many things that blissy can't.
 
While Wailord is different, I'm not sure it's going to a format defining Pokemon. The biggest problem is the attack, capping damage at 60 per attack isn't that amazing. Even Honchkrow has better damage potential than that because of the possibilty of special Dark along with Plus Power and Strength Charm, which I don't see Wailord playing. The time factor will also possibly become a problem, if you do fall behind in prizes, it will be difficult for you to catch up with such a slow build up and low end damage to boot.

On a side note, please stop insisting that an opponent using Gallade will flip over all their prizes at once and still not even KO a Wailord. No Gallade player in their right mind would do something that idiotic. Sonic Blade is the attack of choice against a Wailord. If that attack is prevented (Holon WP + Water, Unown G) then they will either Warp Point that Wailord to your bench and attack something else, or just start hitting for 50-60 HP (depending on DRE) without fear of a respone hit since Wailord needs 4 energy to attack.

Basically Wailord's a 200 HP Castform that can't draw cards or easily retreat. Many claim that they will be able to stall attacks with Leftovers, Wailord's body, Buffer Piece, Potion, and Super Scoop Up, but while it might keep your original Wailord out there longer, your opponent will be setting up their entire side while you might not even be attacking back. Anything that can snipe your bench could possibly have a field day with a deck like this by simply ignoring the active.
 
well just to tell you, wailord and leafeon x, shouldn't have too much problem with energy, i mean i don't know if i'm the only person that noted good players working on wailord decks, but i feel that it has a lot of potential and if someone were to address all of the problems that people note with it (it's obvious that people are working on that ,if they haven't already built an insane list) than it would just sweep a tourney filled with gallades, magmorter has a chance because you can flame bluster their energy acceleration, but the active will stay alive and ohko your morter with lake boundary and strength charm ( since it's an anti metagame deck it's OBVOUS that it will have lake boundary and strength charm because the damage it will take to kill morter will be calculated into the build),

i know that not everyone's attempt at wailord will be good, but as someone who will play either gallade
or magmorter, i just want to be prepared and to refuse to be metagamed , maybe i'm just an idiot for knowing what elements beat the decks i play, i just would think it would be of interest since they are the decks everyone else plays too
 
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JokerBoi said:
You are comparing it to blissy as an attacker, but not as an pokemon card in general. Wailord can do many things that blissy can't.
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Please explain to me what Wailord can do that Blissey cannot do? Try to make it more than one point that consists of, "OMG HE HAS 200HP!!!111".

Thanks
 
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