Life without Claydol?

[Riq]

I doubt that GE will even be rotated out since most sets stay out for around 3 yrs. we basically JUST got claydol about a year ago

 

[Blaziken 1111]

Last I checked Sparta, you are not everyone unless...

And Riq that is not completely true. I'm pretty sure sets only last about 2 years.

 

[amphy#1]

Almost all those crappy cards are getting Rotated out. Uxie will be in the format as long as those other cards will be. Next format we also get Volkner, which outclasses all of those draw cards.

Power Spray is useful in SP decks, in which case you simply setup Claydol, they lock it, THEN you drop Uxie. If they have 2 Power Spray, then they got you good and you take it like a man, thats the price you pay for reliable draw.

You failed.[/QUOTE/]

They won't be so reliable when I lock them. You failed. Yes some of them will rotate out, and Volkner just proves my point, that there is good draw other than Claydol, and Uxie. "The price for reliable draw..15$ each. The look on your face when you get locked...Priceless."

 

[SPARTA]

They won't be so reliable when I lock them. You failed.

They will still be reliable, considering Claydol is still there and I can use Uxie at any time, such as, AGAIN, after you just Power Sprayed Claydol. Care toy guess the odds of you having TWO power spray on t2-3?

Yes some of them will rotate out, and Volkner just proves my point, that there is good draw other than Claydol, and Uxie. "The price for reliable draw..15$ each. The look on your face when you get locked...Priceless."

And the look on your face when you use your silly Oaks Visit and draw into trash while I use my Claydol again and again? It will be even more priceless.

Your failure becomes more apparent with each post I'm afraid.

Last I checked Sparta, you are not everyone unless...

But including myself in a group with the people, which I am included with, means you can no longer say "everyone". The issue in this case was your improper wording.

And Riq that is not completely true. I'm pretty sure sets only last about 2 years.

Usually, though sometimes the sets released for Regs/Nats last 3 (DP, HL, DX, ect). I strongly suspect that we will lose GE if nothing else than for Claydol to be rotated out and for us to find a new draw system basis.

 

[getjosh]

So...No one gave me any good ideas. I know about Uxie and run at least one in all my decks, just as a back up. But what do I do if I want to stay away from Poke-powers?

I was thinking about a 2-2 line on Furret. Or Delibird. Or maybe Lopbunny.

And if it is not a Pokemon, then what kind of trainers do I run? I have heard of the fish engine - lots of Poke Dex and Poke Radar. But it seems like it would take a lot of space in your deck, and not very consistent.

 

[Riq]

OOPS! sorry i meant to press 2*

 

[getjosh]

I didn't see that there were 2 pages of posts. (i am new at this)

Thanks to every one with ideas. Especially Amphy#1

 

[i like burdn of a day]

I miss the good old days. GE had just been released and nobody knew that claydol was good...

I can't wait until Claydol is out of the format. but unfortunately when Claydol gets rotated out, so does Cresselia lvX

 

[amphy#1]

They will still be reliable, considering Claydol is still there and I can use Uxie at any time, such as, AGAIN, after you just Power Sprayed Claydol. Care toy guess the odds of you having TWO power spray on t2-3?

It can happen, especialy if your playing with sp pokemon.

And the look on your face when you use your silly Oaks Visit and draw into trash while I use my Claydol again and again? It will be even more priceless.

Don't you understand.. your Claydol will be locked!!

Your failure becomes more apparent with each post I'm afraid.

Really? Then I guess you call your krappy post a sucess right?...I think not!!

But including myself in a group with the people, which I am included with, means you can no longer say "everyone". The issue in this case was your improper wording.



Usually, though sometimes the sets released for Regs/Nats last 3 (DP, HL, DX, ect). I strongly suspect that we will lose GE if nothing else than for Claydol to be rotated out and for us to find a new draw system basis.

"Whatcha gonna do!!"

 

[Ignatious]

Before Claydol, everyone used starters and Gardevoir.
Before that, The "Holon Engine" was used everywhere.
Before that, Pidgeot FRLG was used in nearly every deck.

As far as I can remember, there has always been some form of draw that was universal to all decks; due to it being the 'most effective form of draw/search'. After Claydol Uxie and possibly other cards to come out will rule the draw aspect of the game.

 

[SPARTA]

It can happen, especialy if your playing with sp pokemon.

The odds of you getting 2 Pokespray by T2-3 are about 20% if you manage to thin your deck by 2-3 cards per turn, assuming you do not use Cyrus to grab Poke Spray because you will be using Roseanne or be using it to grab Energy Gain so you may be able to attack quickly.

So yeah, it can happen, But 4/5 times it will work in my favor, and the other 1/5 of the time I can simply hit you with Uxie and try again next turn (and if you manage to have all 4 Power Spray in your hand on turn 3-4 I will come across the table).

Don't you understand.. your Claydol will be locked!!

For 1 turn, the exact same amount of time you will gain draw through Oaks Visit. Except my supporter slot wasn't used up, thus I can still play search even if you lock Claydol. you can lock me for 2-3 turns AT BEST, while you suffer from sub par draw the entire game.

Really? Then I guess you call your krappy post a sucess right?...I think not!!

A total success, considering I was able to dismantle your silly attempt at an argument while not having a single one of my points argued or, indeed even having been addressed.

 

[amphy#1]

The odds of you getting 2 Pokespray by T2-3 are about 20% if you manage to thin your deck by 2-3 cards per turn, assuming you do not use Cyrus to grab Poke Spray because you will be using Roseanne or be using it to grab Energy Gain so you may be able to attack quickly.
That's just speculation. You don't know for sure what I already have in my hand. Then I'll use serch to get my ohter stuff.
So yeah, it can happen, But 4/5 times it will work in my favor, and the other 1/5 of the time I can simply hit you with Uxie and try again next turn (and if you manage to have all 4 Power Spray in your hand on turn 3-4 I will come across the table).

I would like to see that.

For 1 turn, the exact same amount of time you will gain draw through Oaks Visit. Except my supporter slot wasn't used up, thus I can still play search even if you lock Claydol. you can lock me for 2-3 turns AT BEST, while you suffer from sub par draw the entire game.

Good for you.. Oh, so it is'nt sub par when you draw or search with out Claydol? You and me will be on the same playing field. That will make it a fair battle.
A total success, considering I was able to dismantle your silly attempt at an argument while not having a single one of my points argued or, indeed even having been addressed.

LAME!! really LAME!!

 

[SPARTA]

That's just speculation. You don't know for sure what I already have in my hand. Then I'll use serch to get my ohter stuff.

Statistical fact. You have no cards other than Cyrus which you would run to grab Power Spray. The only other cards you could play would either be terrible (in the case of Poke Drawer) or defeat the point of running an SP deck (in the case of searching pokemon).

I would like to see that.

That's nice, feel free to blog about it on your My space.

Good for you.. Oh, so it is'nt sub par when you draw or search with out Claydol? You and me will be on the same playing field. That will make it a fair battle.

A fair battle for 2-3 turns at the most before I gain the advantage. You are playing an SP deck, you already had the early game advantage.

LAME!! really LAME!!

Agreed, but I was trying to avoid telling you that you were. I'm glad you broached that subject instead.

Still waiting for you to actually address a single thing I saw rather than spout stupidity and silliness....

 

[yoyofsho16]

"Whatcha gonna do!!"

What? That is an awful post. Why do you continue to discredit good players and using Powers? There's a reason people use Claydol: IT WORKS. If you have 2 Power Spray T2 even, that's 2 Claydol locks. BOOHOO. I just wasted 2 of your Power Spray early in the game. Great misplay, Amphy #1. Now when I charge up my Blastoise, you'll have a worse chance of being able to Power Spray it.

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And it also isn't sub-par that your Porygon 2 that you use as draw can be locked JUST LIKE CLAYDOL??

 

[amphy#1]

Statistical fact. You have no cards other than Cyrus which you would run to grab Power Spray. The only other cards you could play would either be terrible (in the case of Poke Drawer) or defeat the point of running an SP deck (in the case of searching pokemon).

Honchcrow G says hi.

That's nice, feel free to blog about it on your My space.

I will.

A fair battle for 2-3 turns at the most before I gain the advantage. You are playing an SP deck, you already had the early game advantage.

your right I will have the advantage after that... you loose.

Agreed, but I was trying to avoid telling you that you were. I'm glad you broached that subject instead.

"I know you are, but what am I" (Pee Wee Herman).

Still waiting for you to actually address a single thing I saw rather than spout stupidity and silliness....

"Whatcha gonna do!!"

 

[Politoed666]

Life without Claydol, huh? One word: Uxie.

 

[SPARTA]

Honchcrow G says hi.

Meaning you dealt no damage first turn, meaning I am breathing easier since the odds of me dying early went down dramatically.

I will.

Good boy, maybe you can be taught to roll over.

your right I will have the advantage after that... you loose.

I loose. Oh no I loose, what will I do?
I mean besides win the game and arguement vs you, of course.

 

[amphy#1]

What? That is an awful post. Why do you continue to discredit good players and using Powers? There's a reason people use Claydol: IT WORKS. If you have 2 Power Spray T2 even, that's 2 Claydol locks. BOOHOO. I just wasted 2 of your Power Spray early in the game. Great misplay, Amphy #1. Now when I charge up my Blastoise, you'll have a worse chance of being able to Power Spray it.

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And it also isn't sub-par that your Porygon 2 that you use as draw can be locked JUST LIKE CLAYDOL??

I don't discredit them, I just lock them.:lol: It works if I don't lock it which I will. You call stopping you from using a power to draw a missplay? I don't think so.

Amphy will fry the shell off of Blastoise's back. Great misplay whatever your name is.

Yes it will get locked, but unlike you I still have tons of supporters to keep me in the game.

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Life without Claydol, huh? One word: Uxie.

One word: Power Spray.

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Meaning you dealt no damage first turn, meaning I am breathing easier since the odds of me dying early went down dramatically.



Good boy, maybe you can be taught to roll over.

I will bite you in the.... "nothin but the dog in me." You will be the one playing dead after I beat you.I loose. Oh no I loose, what will I do?
I mean besides win the game and arguement vs you, of course.

Me= win... You= Loose.:lol::lol::lol:

 

[FLCLFANMAN]

When is everybody gonna understand that we don't NEED Claydol or Uxie or any insane draw staple? We use them b/c they make our decks quicker and incredibly consistent. If they were axed most decks would still match up accordingly, but wouldn't have the draw/set up speed. The world won't end if we don't have a draw staple and If u have a deck that depends on said staple you should rethink deck strategy.

 

[Bippa201]

^^ You win

If your whole strategy relies on claydol, what happens when it is locked?