Pidgeotto Trainer
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I had it just as early as he did, and played it at cities when no one was playing it. And he wasn't the one promoting that sandwich name anyways, you were.
A little tired of Silly names for existing decks
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I had it just as early as he did, and played it at cities when no one was playing it. And he wasn't the one promoting that sandwich name anyways, you were.
ryanvergel
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And it stuck. Just like PLOX. Or R-Gon. Maybe you guys just have inferior names?
Tormentedsoul14
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Omg My Ploxmortarempoleonomastarggbmcsnipe W1|| 0WN Y0UR 455
Wow... I just got back from Mrs. Fields cookies. What a mess. I asked for chocolate chip cookies. You know, like PDS described. (His post sorta of made me hungry. )
The lady at the counter was real rude. She kept asking me if I wanted "semi-sweet", "milk chocolate", blah blah blah. She obviously isn't down with this whole "a cookie is a cookie" and "a deck is a deck" revolution that is underway. Just give me a chocolate chip cookie says me! So she does. wait... this one doesn't have any pecans! OMG! I said CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIE!
Sheesh. Where is Rodney King when he is REALLY needed? Probably making decks and eating cookies.
My deck has certain components, that I like to refer to as Plox. If other decks, albeit using similar Pokemon, lack certain components I prefer to not call them Plox.
I never knew it was such an antagonistic thing? Go figure.
The lady at the counter was real rude. She kept asking me if I wanted "semi-sweet", "milk chocolate", blah blah blah. She obviously isn't down with this whole "a cookie is a cookie" and "a deck is a deck" revolution that is underway. Just give me a chocolate chip cookie says me! So she does. wait... this one doesn't have any pecans! OMG! I said CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIE!
Sheesh. Where is Rodney King when he is REALLY needed? Probably making decks and eating cookies.
My deck has certain components, that I like to refer to as Plox. If other decks, albeit using similar Pokemon, lack certain components I prefer to not call them Plox.
I never knew it was such an antagonistic thing? Go figure.
JandPDS
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LOL. I enjoyed your post, honest I thought it was very clever. One point about it I am a little fuzzy on, just curious what your secret component is in your deck? In my deck I have three components, I have some Pokemon Cards, some energy cards and my secret ingredient is (and dont tell anyone else) I have some trainer cards too. Those are my components I wonder what different components are in yours that I dont use?
By the way I am teching in an Empoleon into my deck so it suppose it can no longer be known as a Gardevoir and Gallade deck as everyone knows an entire decks emphasis is determined by its techs.
And as everyone knows the Senior World championship deck that won Worlds last year was not a Bannete Ex deck. Rambolt was not at all T2 Bannete Ex deck as it was all about Lunatone& Solrock, that was what beat Empoleon right?
Globefishpoison
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His PB&J deck probably runs supporters and stadiums in addition to pokemon, energy, and trainers. Hard to keep up without supporters.
I'm going to keep with the original spirit of the thread, and not try to debase the claim that Plox and GG are different decks. Different strategies, perhaps. What's in a name anyway? What's in a deck? What makes a deck? Mario says hi. Plox sounds like a character from a Dr. Seuss book. The Plox. I do think it is silly. My friend and I were having a similar discussion about the odd way names stick to decks. I should have told him that people really really push to get certain names in rotation. That's it, right?
So if G&G is Peanut Butter & Jelly
Plox is Peanut Butter & Jam
At the end of the day, it's all PB&J.
I'm going to keep with the original spirit of the thread, and not try to debase the claim that Plox and GG are different decks. Different strategies, perhaps. What's in a name anyway? What's in a deck? What makes a deck? Mario says hi. Plox sounds like a character from a Dr. Seuss book. The Plox. I do think it is silly. My friend and I were having a similar discussion about the odd way names stick to decks. I should have told him that people really really push to get certain names in rotation. That's it, right?
So if G&G is Peanut Butter & Jelly
Plox is Peanut Butter & Jam
At the end of the day, it's all PB&J.
JandPDS
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So what you are saying here is an admission that both G&G and PLOX is the exact same deck, but G&G is a stupid name, so you would perfer that the name POLX just be used for all decks With Gardevoir and Gallade in it. that is an honest opinion that I can live with. So now what we are done to what is the better name debate a la LBS vs Storm a few years back.
zthunderz2
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the one I hate the most is sallygross
it turns two big monsters into a couple of little girls
it turns two big monsters into a couple of little girls
DarthPika
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I dont think they are exactly the same, and they used to be VERY different, but now the builds have gotton close to being to what Plox was and is so they should all have the same name. Basicly testing showed that a Gardy based G&G build worked better so everyone modified there G&G to be more like that, and it got hard to say exactly what the difference was between G&G and Plox.
Bolt
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I don't run any Gallade in my latest Plox list. 0.
Also, I don't like to boast or anything* but I am probably the greatest deck namer of all time. I named R-Gon, I named Rambolt, I named Love Letter.
*I LOVE to boast
My least favorite deck name of all time is Dark Wing Duck. Where is there a duck in that deck? am i doin it rong guise???
Also, I don't like to boast or anything* but I am probably the greatest deck namer of all time. I named R-Gon, I named Rambolt, I named Love Letter.
*I LOVE to boast
My least favorite deck name of all time is Dark Wing Duck. Where is there a duck in that deck? am i doin it rong guise???
I feel the need to explain how and Why I name things as I do....
Lets take a look at some of my decks....
4 Corners.... Actually Vince named this deck for us. It perfectly described, as Drew said, the 4 types different people used to counter their metagame. Seemed simple enough but covered a wide variety of decks. It was more of a Style of play, than an official deck name.
Eeveelutions.... Kind of simple. I really do not like this name at all. I gives away the entire strat of the deck. Rogue decks should not have the pokemons names in them. Sure there are decks like LBS and Ludicargo that full describe what the deck is. These are good names for those decks as they are archetypes and needed to solidify there place in the format. Rogue decks require a little more pizazz. I really wanted my eevee deck to be called Retaliation for many reasons. I liked to think that I could take anyones best hit and RETALIATE twice as hard. Thus my thought of that particular name.
Destiny..... at that particular time Metanite was the most DOMINATE deck being played. There were very few counters to it. When Adam and I worked this deck out and finally got it to where we felt it had the metagame cornered, we started the naming process. I always type names into my Microsoft word program and look for synonyms for what we felt the deck was doing. I just so happens that DESTINY showed up in one of those. We felt that it was much better than the original name of SMOOTHY-KING! LOL... After all, it was this decks DESTINY to unseed Metanite.
Ambush..... This one was the easiest to name.... I simply got that off my Word program. I wanted a single word that described what the deck was doing. And quite simply it was AMBUSHING my opponents. It was attacking everything at once. the definition desribed it perfectly. an act or instance of attacking unexpectedly from a concealed position. Seemed perfect for me.
The Answer.... I was looking for this very thing. AN ANSWER!! I needed an Answer to GG and mortar.... It lived up to its name, but wasnt a deck for everyone due to its complexities.
Arithmetic.... While I know that this name has been used, It perfectly describes what what the deck is doing. You REALLY need to be able to use you addition skills when playing this deck. One wrong move with 1 damage counter could cost you a game.
If you notice, these names ar 1 word names that best describe what the deck was meant to do. They are accurate names for those particular decks. Those who play them know exactly what I mean. So Rob to dispute your comment, all these names have Something to do with their particular deck.
Jimmy
BTW.... GG and Plox have 2 different stategies and deserve 2 different names. Similar to the old Flygon builds which were not called R-gon as they also had different starts.
JandPDS
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OK Jimmy you opinion does indeed carry an extremely heavy amount of weight as there is no dispute to your extensive contributions to Pokemon-TCG, and your reputation in the game is unsurpassed. So could you please elaborate on what are the differences in Stategy exactly are between a Plox deck and a G&G deck? Thank-you
edwarpy
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Heh, heh, what a degenerate thread, game over! :biggrin:
JandPDS
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But Popular.. almost 80 posts in 5 days :thumb:
toxictaipan
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A four page discussion on why people should or shouldn't be allowed to name their decks as they please.
Okay, here's my reason.
I'm good at the pokemon TCG. I'm friends and acquaintances with some of the better players in my area. I'm not telling them I'm running G/G with Cressy TecH, no I'm running the Lunar Swordsman (not the best example, but if you don't get the point...:nonono
. Instead I'll name my decks something that has a lot to do with the deck, but gives no clues as to what might be inside. Much like Jimmy said about Arithmetic.
People name your decks as you please!!
Okay, here's my reason.
I'm good at the pokemon TCG. I'm friends and acquaintances with some of the better players in my area. I'm not telling them I'm running G/G with Cressy TecH, no I'm running the Lunar Swordsman (not the best example, but if you don't get the point...:nonono
. Instead I'll name my decks something that has a lot to do with the deck, but gives no clues as to what might be inside. Much like Jimmy said about Arithmetic.People name your decks as you please!!
JandPDS
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A four page discussion on why people should or shouldn't be allowed to name their decks as they please.
Okay, here's my reason.
I'm good at the pokemon TCG. I'm friends and acquaintances with some of the better players in my area. I'm not telling them I'm running G/G with Cressy TecH, no I'm running the Lunar Swordsman (not the best example, but if you don't get the point...:nonono
People name your decks as you please!!
Personally I dont care what you call your deck when you go to a tournament. If you want to call your Magmortar/Tylpholisan deck Blue Boy. More power to you, but when we go see the "what decks win" threads and someone was to Post Santa Fe BR Masters `1st place Blue Boy 2nd place Darkria X/Weaville. Well then that name is a problem as no one knows what Blue Boy means. If a deck is truely brand new and an imaginative name like Ambush catches on and everyone knows what is in Ambush,(Empoleon, Marrowack) then that is ok, but if last year someone was to put in a Absol EX into Ambush would they be able to then say that they invented a new deck called Sniper. And all of the sudden Sniper is a superior deck to Ambush, and Sniper will do so much better then Ambush at Worlds 2007? IF that was attempted last year it would have been laughed off as silly.
This GG/Plox debate is the same thing. There was an existing deck that everyone knew about and has agreeably been the most often played deck this year. No one person or Group could take credit for developing it as the combo was as obvious as the nose on your face. Then this established deck gets changed like almost every other deck when the new set of Great Encounters is released after Citys is over. Then someone takes the existing G&G deck list and adds a few new cards from the new set, and declares that a brand new deck has been born. When it is the exact same deck as before just with some new techs in it from the new set (I am still surprised that they have not taken credit for including Premier ball in POLX as well)
They may wish to believe with all of their heart, that their PLOX deck that they used in States/Regionals is completely different from the G&G deck that they used in Citys. But if you compare the deck lists they will still be 90% the same. Both set list still feature Gardevoir/GardevoirX and Gallade. And the entire rest of the list are techs to supprt thoes Pokes. they are not new and seperate decks. The G&G I used in December, was not the list I used in March, and not the one that I use today. But I have not created an uniqe deck each time, just tweaked it a bit when new cards are released. Some tweaks work and stay some tweaks dont and go away. But the deck list changed with time not the deck itself. And as the G&G deck name while not all that creative, was the established deck name in use by the pokemon community. One group of people should not expect to be able to arbitarilly change it to something that they think is better months after the fact.
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