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Battle roads prize support

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How did Missouri get left off of your list Mr. Tuskey?

3rd highest attedance of Regionals for how many years in a row now? I don't mind taking a back seat to Texas or Oregon...but the others...

Hit a nerve there buddy!!!

Vince

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SD PokéMom said:
and of course in those 'other' games there's no TO fraud or other theft of product...and shipping of all that 'extra' product is free.

none of that will strain an already stretched-thin budget, nope...

'mom
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Which would be covered if they charged say $5 for events like cities and states and maybe $3 for Battle roads :eek: and at least up the prize a few packs and make it were top 3 in each age group get a Victory Metal especially since there are 3 new art Victory Metals in Japan ( the fact that there are 3 different ones makes me already think that everyone it top 3 gets one).
 
meganium45 said:
How did Missouri get left off of your list Mr. Tuskey?

3rd highest attedance of Regionals for how many years in a row now? I don't mind taking a back seat to Texas or Oregon...but the others...

Hit a nerve there buddy!!!

Vince

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Darn, I knew I'd upset somebody (just didn't want it to be Cookie or he'd mace me!!)
 
and keeping track of that money...besides opening up yet another avenue for theft and fraud...would likely require a whole new position in the OP offices to handle that workload.

nevermind the fact that free events is one of, if not THE cornerstone of how OP runs their events...

'mom
 
and keeping track of that money...besides opening up yet another avenue for theft and fraud...would likely require a whole new position in the OP offices to handle that workload.
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Because there aren't any avenues by which TOs can commit fraud already, and the game runs fine? Yeah ok.
 
Diaz said:
Because there aren't any avenues by which TOs can commit fraud already, and the game runs fine? Yeah ok.
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Yes, there are certainly avenues where unethical TOs can commit fraud against PCI. What 'mom is trying to say is that it's better NOT to open *more* avenues for fraud. Remember that there are a good portion of BRs (and some Cities) that aren't run by Premier TOs, but by regular TOs that don't have that all-important written contract with PCI. Almost all of the TOs that I've come across run their events like they have that contract, even if they don't, because they desire running events in the future. By introducing more variability in the tournament structure, you introduce new avenues for fraud and a greater temptation for those less-than-honorable TOs to commit it.
 
for those who brought up FNM ( friday night magic) they only supply 3 promo cards and sometimes smaller swag anything else is from the store still not a good comparison. as its still a pay to play!!!!!
 
Why not jsut have pay to play events and free events, since apparently Poemom knows how POP runs so well, and what they base the values of the game on. Have free events, like league, battle roads, ect, and also have pay to play events on big tounraments, like cities up. As for fraud, they could just get more strict with their polocies, but I admit to not knowing much about that subject.
 
or you could have mulitiple branches. sorta like magic but not really. like have an free and pay per play branch. and have stuff like magic like extended so in pokemon terms ruby spahire on. or unlimited coming back into a tournoment. have them all sanctioned.

to anyone complaining about money i have this: Pokemon is a self substaining game so by adding more branches rules of capitolism say that more people have a wider verity to pick from and some more people want to play, with more people wanting to play sales go up and pokemon gets mo money to run these branches. but this wont be able to happen overnite though it would take time to build up funds in each brach but after a while all the branches will substain themselves
 
This thread seems to have boiled down:

Someone suggests a new structure, someone finds a flaw in it that is only slightly different from current potential flaws.

Someone brings up larger player base, someone requotes Pokepop.

Everyone is unhappy with pat460, pat is unhappy with everyone.

Arguments about comparisons to Friday Night Magic (FNM).

I'd like to add something new: Battle Roads is the first leg of the season, and very potentially the first part of the season for everyone to be unhappy, critical, or even just observant. Not knowing the timing of POP's fiscal year or any of their other financial data it feels like many of us would support them in a bigger budget but lack the correct, complete information to make the best, most articulate and logical case.

Kind of leaves me with a bad, but get-over-it taste in my mouth.

I've been enjoying the prize support for other games, some of you should try it out like Vince suggested. Playing casual Magic booster drafts or Epic or even UFS can be a lot of fun if your local store has the right community.
 
Ghetto Overlord said:
or you could have mulitiple branches. sorta like magic but not really. like have an free and pay per play branch. and have stuff like magic like extended so in pokemon terms ruby spahire on. or unlimited coming back into a tournoment. have them all sanctioned.

to anyone complaining about money i have this: Pokemon is a self substaining game so by adding more branches rules of capitolism say that more people have a wider verity to pick from and some more people want to play, with more people wanting to play sales go up and pokemon gets mo money to run these branches. but this wont be able to happen overnite though it would take time to build up funds in each brach but after a while all the branches will substain themselves
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Indead, they could just make the other branches pay and play then and keep the so called cornerstone and have it be for a totally different ratting system which could still get you an invite to Worlds. They can say all they like that POP makes no extra money in the budget based on sales all they like but I don't believe it and I'm sure a lot of other people don't believe it since it makes no sence. If they were giving the company another reason for people to possibly get back and into the game and therefor more revenue obviously they would give additional funds to supply the minimum prize since remember most of the prize support would be paid for by the entry fee.
 
I am not a fan of the new prizes because BRs are small so they prizes SHOULD only go to the Top 2. I do get the idea of everyone (new players) getting a piece of the pie but, 4 packs seems a little lackluster. 6 + Victory Medal , 3, 2, 1 seems fair.
 
Want to make me and everyone else happy? Prove us wrong and offer better prize support for states.


(I excluded CC's because they are IMHO one of the most regionally biased tourneys in existence)
 
DarthPika said:
Want to make me and everyone else happy? Prove us wrong and offer better prize support for states.


(I excluded CC's because they are IMHO one of the most regionally biased tourneys in existence)
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Lol Pokemon do something about what the players say. Maybe they'll give us 10% better prize lol. Or mabey 6 extra packs? Overall, the prize is prety good for free events, and it wont improove much if it stays a free event based tournament structure.
Tl;dr If you want to change the prizes structure, change the tournament structure.
 
Battle Roads prize support is fine. Here is why I like the changes. It helps to grow the game. Most Battle Roads are won by players who are known for the most part. However a lot of time the T4 had some type of local player who did well. If they do well and get 2 packs it encourages them to play and buy more often. 4 or 8 packs to players who play seriously isn't really going to matter IMO. I personally don't care either way, as the prizes for BRs are so small the only that I want is the Victory Medal and my 4 or 5 Ratings Points. :thumb:

Drew
 
6+victory medal, 4 for second, and then 2 for third sounds best to me. first still gets more than everyone else, but thrid gets something now so you don't have to complain about not making T2 cut and gettng third.
 
I wholeheartedly agree with this; it was a really good decision imo.

First place is probably the one with more cards. I like how third and fourth get packs, it makes new players who got lucky happier, and the good players who win don't really need the packs usually. It was just a case of the rich getting richer last season.

Sure, if you sell the packs it's less money, but if you're playing for money you're in the wrong game. Besides, Victory Medals sell for an okay amount, that should be worth enough for winning a tiny event like a battle road.

I'm going to try not to get into the whole "it's a free event, you're lucky to have prizes at all" thing, but the people who are greedy enough to want eight packs over four really need to grow up. I might actually have given the first place packs away to the noobs who got pretty far anyway, they need them much more than I do.

Plus, it's Supreme Victors. Who cares if you get less of it?
 
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