Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Bdif ?

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vs. Gengar - 20-80
vs. Any other Stage 2 Not Fighting Weak - 30-70
vs. Any other Stage 1 Not Fighting Weak - 30-70

AKA while Macheap may be good for skillless players who love to donk and in SP-Without-Macheap-Counters-Infested areas, it flatout fails against everything else.

uh, machamp prime changes this. are you living under a solrock?
 
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Haha, tested the matchup with or without a good list?

Vilegar is a very bad matchup and gyardos doesn't look all that good either.
But you should be winning from decks like magnezone, Scizzor, jumpluff, kingdra and so on.
 
Lets see...
Magnezone has weakness. That alone makes things rough on the Zone. Even then Champ struggles with Cyber Shock followed by Gyro Ball KO's, and Zone X doesn't have that nasty weakness.
Scizor has bigger worries then Machamp.
Jumpluff's resistance means that Machamp cannot 2HKO him unless he uses Champ Buster. That move is an indication that somewhere on Machamps bench (And probably the Champ himself), something is going down to Pluff next turn.
Kingdra is for all intents and purposes faster then Machamp, prime included. Kingdra consistently 2-shots Machamps for 1 energy, Machamp cannot say the same for 3 energy. Don't come with the "Champ can donk Dra" argument cuz in this case, that happens to work both ways.
Mind you, I'm talking about Straight Champ SF with Champ Prime tech here, not decks like DonChamp. Just the old fashioned donk deck that use Champ Prime for their "big damage".
 
I don't think you know how the new Machamp decks even work. Against evolution decks, you rotate between 2 machamps with Fighting tag and heal them with Seeker. Combined with the OHKO's you're getting against most decks, that's enough to win most evolution match-ups. Gengar/Vileplume's still a terrible match-up, but gyarados and all other evolutuion decks are now close if not in machamp's favour. Watch for Machamp decks at cities because they will tear them up!
 
Again, I simply put this out there for those who use the 'classic' Champ SF deck with Champ Prime as extra damage output. A deck more focussed on Champ Prime might be quite a lot better, that I can agree on.
Not like I didn't mention what exactly I aimed at at least twice so far...
 
Because that is what some folks seemed to talk about. But since we already established that that one is inferior nowadays...how about we move on? (The post that constantly quoted clearly said MaCHEAP, not the Prime, but hey...feel free to keep going on about a completely different deck in order to go on about my post). The post that gets constantly quoted spoke to Redados who spoke about Macheap-Umbreon. You know, the deck that he went 8-0 went in BR's in seniors and thus thinks is good.
 
2-2 Machamp SF/Prime is the play, with seeker you should beat decks like the one's i mentioned.
 
No! This is not a lost world thread STOP LOST WORLD WILL NOT COME OUT AND IF IT DOES IT WILL SO THERE IS NO REASON TO BRING LOST WORLD INOT EVERY THREAD!!!

just wasnted to get tthat out there

Macheap isn't as good as it used to be :(
 
I don't think there is a real bdif right now. but i will say i think tier one is
DialgaChomp
Gyarados
Luxchomp
Machamp w/ machamp prime/ umbreon
Chenlock
 
Well, there isn't a bdif right now. Too many to decide, every deck out there has it's bad match up. And people, don't say your deck is the best... It's just plain annoying.
 
Magnagatr, bdif in the coolness factor. You couldnt get cooler.

teir 1 of cool
magnezone varients
combee
giritina decks
charizard
random grass decks

you cant really get much cooler. Unless your Freddy Jackson sipping a milkshake in a snowstorm at the opening night of the apollo.
 
Iunno about that, Floatzel SV hits it for weakness. It has a lower overal damage output but that blow on weakness might just tip the scales in Floatzel's favor.
 
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