Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Format Change for Next Year - Possible Change for Nats and Worlds!

Ah PokePop beat me to the punch

If everyone plays sabledonk on purpose to get the rotation before nats wouldn't that be counter productive to the point?

When the TOs submit those BR decklists and reports and P!P sees that EVERYONE played Sabledonk, then there is not much data to go through. You need a diverse environment to show that either sabledonk is bad or is a fluke. Just out right telling everyone to play a sabledonk doesnt say anything other than that everyone played sabledonk to push for a rotation.

I personally do not mind if the rotation happened before Nats, but you have to make it obvious that sabledonk is bad in a DIVERSE metagame, not just everone playing the sabledonk. With all those hate threads right now, I want to see the numbers when you pair sabledonk to vilegar or vilechamp or magenzone, where all of these decks play SPIRITOMB.

What I see right now is that sabledonk has effectively limited SP (which everyone has whined/voiced about in the past) so while sabledonk effectively lowered SP play, it has increased spiritomb, which makes stage 2 decks now even more viable.
 
all of my cards turn into crap lol. so much for getting all of the SV and AR cards

atleast Luxchomp won't win nats lol
 
Forgive me if I am freaked out.

Now. I got an answer answered by Biggie about if the PTO would want one card banned and stick with BW rules... I was sad not to get it. Sigh, no wonder why P!P cant have control on the format!!! *sigh*

And yeah, hopefully my Nationals will have MD-CL format, since I do not want Sableye after Sableye everywhere. So lame, you know that.
 
PokePop said:
You know, if EVERYONE plays Sabledonk, then it won't prove a thing.
Just sayin'
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Sableye really doesn't need to be in the format for Nationals either way because it only takes a few donks to rob someone of their invite.
 
If this happens im done with pokemon all these useless cards and i wont even have a decent deck for deck for Nats. This is stupid just bann the card creating all the fuss SABLEYE!!!!!
 
Well I have at least half a piece of humble pie to eat, not really a full piece since it's changing so late...

*munches on pie

Anyways, this is...different...wonder what sort of stuff will show up people will come up with? I'm leaning toward Zekrom-donk personally.
 
Even if they do look at the data for the Top 4 and only some people are playing Sabledonk.
Wouldn't there still be just Sabledonk decks in the Top 4 anyway because they are clearly OP?
I dunno just a thought?
 
Here's a rant:
I'm not huge into competitive pokemon (MTG takes most of my resources), but would it kill whoever is in charge of this rotation to do some testing? I feel that with a day or 2 of play testing, it would be easy to determine if Battle Roads will be a donkfest like everyone thinks it will be... We don't pay $3-$4 per pack for just the cards. We pay for the service of having a developed and thought out modified format that is fun and competitive. Having them say that they'll use their player base to test the format tells me that they aren't doing what they need to do.
/rant


That said, I'm fully in support of rotating to HGSS forward and am excited to see what the new format could bring!
 
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omg YES
 
A HGSS-on Format will make my year. After the Call of Legends set turned out to be a disaster and the BW rules with the MD-on Format created even worse disasters, I was losing faith in this game. Plus I'm sick of EVERYBODY using SP. No other deck has that many options it was a dumb idea when it was released and it was dumb that it stuck around for so long. We are losing crazy amounts of deck possibilities, but we gain SO many more. This format makes the game A.) more fun, B.) more balanced, and C.)generally slower.

I LOVE IT!
 
Players with surnames A-M play Sabledonk

Players with surnames N-Z play interesting rogue decks without Tomb and Sableye.

Skewed results problem solved (sort of) ;)
 
Sableye isnt the one causing the bad format. Sure it helps but its not the reason.
If Sableye is banned then people could still very easily donk on the first turn.
The problem is the format is to fast for the new rules.
With things like: Uxie, Sableye, Drawer, Scoop up, Blower, Seeker, pokedex, crobat G, Poketurn, Junkarm and other trainers it is too hard to ban just a couple.
This is by far the best move they could have made in my mind.
(Although the Emboar/Flygon thing sounded fun...)
 
gurellia53 said:
Here's a rant:
I'm not huge into competitive pokemon (MTG takes most of my resources), but would it kill whoever is in charge of this rotation to do some testing? I feel that with a day or 2 of play testing, it would be easy to determine if Battle Roads will be a donkfest like everyone thinks it will be... We don't pay $3-$4 per pack for just the cards. We pay for the service of having a developed and thought out modified format that is fun and competitive. Having them say that they'll use their player base to test the format tells me that they aren't doing what they need to do.
/rant


That said, I'm fully in support of rotating to HGSS forward and am excited to see what the new format could bring!
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People make mistakes. Having the players do the testing shows what nats will be like. The TPCi testers are not the ones playing nats... we are. The fact that they're considering this means that they've admitted that there may be a problem. Magic also has many problems. No amount of testing could have allowed them to predict the Affinity problem before-hand. The blue boon (whose name I forget) was also a very big problem at the time. Problems happen. Once again, the fact that they're willing to analyze data means that they admit that there may be a problem... If they decide that the data conclusively proves that there is a problem, TPCi is willing to take action. That proves that TPCi is willing to listen both to the players and to the data. That is all that we can ask from a very wise company.
 
I don't see how people can be upset with this. This is one of the best decisions TPCi has made in a LOMG time. Loving it. Absolutely loving it.
 
PikaPower56 said:
So, instead of banning ONE card, they're going to ban 3 sets that have been out for LESS THAN 2 YEARS?!?! :nonono:
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Arceus dropped November 09. That means SV dropped August 09, and RR dropped May 09.

By my count, only Arceus has been out for "under 2 years", and only 2 sets would be out for "under 2 years" if the rotation happens before Nats.

That's roughly what happened before the DP-on holdover. I've got zero problems with that.
 
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