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Gengar for Regionals

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I don't see how Gengar by itself is the play for Regionals, not when every G deck can Skuntank poison you and shut down Gengar's Poke-Power. Unown G here and there, so you can snipe key Pokemon with Gengar, and your left to just rely on Poltergeist to get all 6 prizes. Good luck.

Now Gengar/Machamp seems like a better idea. Can't say it is the play for Regionals, though. Players are smart, and I doubt they will bring decks to Regionals that have bad matchups against the deck that was the metaplay for States.
 
Prime said:
I don't see how Gengar by itself is the play for Regionals, not when every G deck can Skuntank poison you and shut down Gengar's Poke-Power. Unown G here and there, so you can snipe key Pokemon with Gengar, and your left to just rely on Poltergeist to get all 6 prizes. Good luck.

Now Gengar/Machamp seems like a better idea. Can't say it is the play for Regionals, though. Players are smart, and I doubt they will bring decks to Regionals that have bad matchups against the deck that was the metaplay for States.
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They can't stop Fainting Spell unless they P. Restore an Uxie.
 
True, Poison doesn't turn off Fainting Spell, but getting the KO with poison damage or a Crobat drop means it won't activate.

Fainting Spell is still hugely annoying, but G decks have more answers than most.
 
What's the point of this thread? I think people can choose their own deck. That's like last year if you would have posted a thread that told people not to play PLOX...
 
I think a G deck is harder to play then a gengar deck.

Knowing when to play crobats, when to power spray, when to poketurn, when to energy gain, when and how you should play the situation.

I just seems that with gengar it's more of a step by step basic strategy. With G decks it's much more player involved.
 
Prime said:
I don't see how Gengar by itself is the play for Regionals, not when every G deck can Skuntank poison you and shut down Gengar's Poke-Power. Unown G here and there, so you can snipe key Pokemon with Gengar, and your left to just rely on Poltergeist to get all 6 prizes. Good luck.

Now Gengar/Machamp seems like a better idea. Can't say it is the play for Regionals, though. Players are smart, and I doubt they will bring decks to Regionals that have bad matchups against the deck that was the metaplay for States.
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Gengar/Machamp seems a bit wishy-washy to me. I wouldn't say it was the Metaplay as much as Dialga G was, and if the opponent gets rid of either Gengar or Machamp then you're left with a half-assed Stage 2 deck. It's much more difficult to run Gengar/Machamp than pure Gengar or Machamp, in my opinion, so you'll have a better shot running one or the other, not both.

Secondly, the only way a G player can shut down Gengar is through Poison Structure, which relies on the player having their own stadium out, done enough damage and then allow Poison to kick in. I will say that playing any G deck that has tried that, only once has it worked, and it did little to stem a Gengar Swarm. Additionally, not many people play Unown G as you think. Not once did I come across a player who bothered to Roseanne for Unown G, despite me having 2-3 Gengars the entire game.

Conceptually, Unown G is highly effective. In practice, he functions as a tech card that people just don't play because it's not worth it.

baby mario said:
True, Poison doesn't turn off Fainting Spell, but getting the KO with poison damage or a Crobat drop means it won't activate.

Fainting Spell is still hugely annoying, but G decks have more answers than most.
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Gengar's free retreat cost gets rid of the poison. The only G card that can sync with Skuntank and play is Weavile G, as it can get Gengar's health down to the stage that it can nearly knock it out and then abuse poison to prevent Fainting Spell. A competent Gengar player will ALWAYS have 2 Gengars out, so they can just retreat and snipe off Skuntank for a prize card and to set the opponent back a turn.
 
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Gengar's free retreat cost gets rid of the poison. The only G card that can sync with Skuntank and play is Weavile G, as it can get Gengar's health down to the stage that it can nearly knock it out and then abuse poison to prevent Fainting Spell.
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That's true, and Fainting Spell is still a big problem. GHQ can help with the sync problem a bit, though.

A competent Gengar player will ALWAYS have 2 Gengars out, so they can just retreat and snipe off Skuntank for a prize card and to set the opponent back a turn.
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That would be ideal, but it's not always possible, even for a competent player (even one who has the legendary SOLID BUILD). Deafen Lock can really hurt your ability to get multiple Stage 2's out.

I do completely agree with your point about the under use/misuse of Unown G.
 
I did'nt make this thread to argue on if it's a good play for Regionals, or if other decks are harder to play.
But instead more of to warn people make sure you're familiar with the deck you're going to play.
 
GengarPwns said:
I did'nt make this thread to argue on if it's a good play for Regionals, or if other decks are harder to play.
But instead more of to warn people make sure you're familiar with the deck you're going to play.
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Aylam -

You are spot on. You know your deck inside and out. That is the key. You also know how to play it very, very, well.

You will be THE one to beat Regionals here in NE.

Share the list? :biggrin:
 
Hey GengarPwns:)

Gengar is a tricky deck to play but I will be honest G is the hardest ( Well depends on what type of G).

Although I think Gengar has suddenly became very popular mainly in the seniors.

Gengar is one of the best decks for sure but when you look at Dialga G and the other Broken G cards I will admit that G is the BDIF has to have Dialga G though.

Me and my brother shared same list and I'd never tested with it before and we got second in seniors and my brother got second in masters with it. My brother had a great list for sure but I lost to Baby Mario in the final to be honest and really not sure which deck is the better so to be honest I think Gengar still has strength but its down to building the deck and not how your playing it I know your list is imence and I really owe my brother for building the list, and I also no people with Gengar doing really bad,

To be honest the contenders for nats ( Excluding Rising Rivals)

PUMA
Gengar
Dialga/Palkia
Dialga with other G cards
T.tar
Machamp

knowing me I'm missing a really good deck but yeah thats what I think about it.

Also Gengar is the best thing to counter turn one thanks to Pitch dark and call energy

Samuel
 
GengarPwns said:
I did'nt make this thread to argue on if it's a good play for Regionals, or if other decks are harder to play.
But instead more of to warn people make sure you're familiar with the deck you're going to play.
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Maybe that is what you should have said in the first place. I think the term, suggest, or in my opinion would be more acceptable than warn....warn is a threatening word. Experience and mastery of a deck by a player is extremely important for playing well in tournaments! Knowing the deck inside and out and being able to play through every possible scenerio is key. But as we all know, luck plays a very integral part in this game on both sides of the table. A player can have a perfect game or even a not so perfect game, and a roll of the die landing on the wrong side, can win and lose games. It is not always about skill and mastery and having the perfect deck.

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What age group are you in?
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He is in SR division.
 
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Gengar is overall not that hard to play or master.
It's a pretty straight forward deck. G Decks are much harder to master because there are so many other options.
 
GengarPwns said:
OMG! i know G decks are "harder" i'm not saying Gengar is THE hardest deck to play just that it is hard.
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I know and I'm saying I disagree.

Gengar is not hard to play. Yeah, you may have to make some difficult choices every now and then like risking the Poltergeist when you don't know what your opponent has. BUT, all decks are like that, nothing special.

I mean, seriously, unless you play really complicated techs, it's essentially just a swarm deck. Get out as many Gengars as you can and attack and flip for its power. Not hard at all.

Please don't discourage people from playing this deck without good reason. Simply saying it's hard to play is not only a lie but you don't back up your argument very well.
 
OK, the comments on this thread are needlessly taking a negative direction.

mumsascrappa said:
warn is a threatening word
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scrappa- 'warn' is a cautioning word. If you choose to take it as a threat, or think the post is threatening anyone, take it with the admins. Otherwise, try not to read too much negativity into a kid's post whose original intention is to be helpful.

Professor Elm said:
Simply saying it's hard to play is not only a lie but you don't back up your argument very well.
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Professor Elm - This is going far beyond a Pokemon argument. Again - we can argue weather this post is helpful or how difficult is Gengar to play, but when you call a kid on the forum a lier, it is pointed, hurtful, and discouraging.
You're entitled to your opinion weather a kid posting here intentionally lied, but in this case, I really wish you kept it to yourself. What may be a breeze for you, may be a bigger challenge for someone else - it's subjective.

Could the original post have been worded differently? Of course - this is what learning is all about. But please watch out how you do the teaching.
 
hanaan said:
Professor Elm - This is going far beyond a Pokemon argument. Again - we can argue weather this post is helpful or how difficult is Gengar to play, but when you call a kid on the forum a lier, it is pointed, hurtful, and discouraging.
You're entitled to your opinion weather a kid posting here intentionally lied, but in this case, I really wish you kept it to yourself. What may be a breeze for you, may be a bigger challenge for someone else - it's subjective.
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Alright, maybe my post was a little harsh, but you are escalating it to a point at which I never intended it to be at. Just chill, it really isn't that big of a deal as you are making it. Sorry if that offended anybody, but seriously y'all should know better than too take things said on here to seriously. It's a pokemon forum.

Now, let's get back on topic b4 it gets locked.
 
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