Absoltrainer
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No offense intended to people that live in those states, but how many Japanese, European, or Aussies want to go to Texas or Ohio?
hmmmmmm, that would eliminate competition.......
jk
No offense intended to people that live in those states, but how many Japanese, European, or Aussies want to go to Texas or Ohio?
Thank you for what I consider a really greedy and mean opinion. There are people who compete for scholarships in all shapes and forms. I know of doing good in school/sports. I know of writing essays/short stories/poems. I know of doing debates and interviews. I know of playing games other than Pokemon. This is what I consider a truly unenlightened statement. If I win a scholarship that I can not use then I will find someone I can help and feel good about myself. I have already seen people talking about signing over scholarships to someone else. I am glad that Pokemon Organized play is trying to promote getting as much education that one can go for. It is funny also how statistics talk about young adults living with their parents after high school and college have a better chance at success as they don't get into debt the way others do. Scholarships should be helping to keep debt down so don't understand how that can be considered bad.
Seeing this is truly something that I agree would be an interesting change. I have been to one Worlds and would not miss going to another though my nephew does want to attend again. Nationals is where I enjoy going and that is because Pokemon is not the only thing. I truly think of it as a fun 4+ days of gaming fun. I pay for the passes into it because there is so much to do and so much fun. Taking away the Worlds event would be fine with me. I could also live with the ratings being taken away because of that or invites just being given out to say 1st place States, top # at Regionals, top # at Nationals as those are Tier 2 events.
I would not pay for Nationals if it was to play in one tournament. I pay for an Origins pass to do all sorts of things at Origins. Need to get a new counter-arguement yourself since most people I know do more than just Pokemon there. It is in a place to allow more people to see and possibly get interested. I don't know of any other event that has the number of things to do that the location Nationals is held has.
Will say now that I will stop playing if events are charged to enter. It is not that I am cheap as it is that there is not a reason to do so. I will go to league or find some other game. I know of some others who would stop as well. I know that if someone asked me that had little chance of making the cut would be told that unless just wanting to accept paying to getting some learning then might not be worth it. There is a BR in Dallas that will be at the library and will require paying for parking. I don't know how many won't show up for that and then there will be ones who fill a vehicle to make the parking cheap. I have been part of tournaments at another convention. I can tell you now that the Gym Challenge had numbers but then other events had almost nothing and most that did show up was someone already at the convention and decided to try it out (again for some of them). It is funny to bring that up when I can see a central location event that needs to be paid to attend has less than an event out of the way of most people has more people and is free.
I can say that prize support does bother me at the BR and CC level. I am not going to say it doesn't but I know that I view it differently. I will honestly say that longer events would make that matter less to me. Being able to have bigger top cuts and maybe more rounds would be great to me. I attend a great many but am looking at attending less events because spending an hour+ to get to an event then the same to get home for 3 rounds and top 2 cut is not really fun and is worse with the prize support. I don't see why limiting the top cut is necessary. I would prefer to see it based on PTO/TO and time rather than say an event running smooth and 5 rounds are done in 3 1/2 hours then seeing only 4 people making the cut. I go to events to play as much as possible. The prizes do matter to me (even if not winning them) but getting to play is more important and the combination of the two is really making me think on whether I want to try and attend events.
Cool. You're in the minority. I pay for my badge to play in nats, as does 90% of the players >_>
Hey Ryan, how can you speak for the majority? How many polls have you held, or how much research have you done, that shows that 90% of the players in this game don't go to Origins to play other games?
This year may be different since I might not have time to do other stuff, but I certainly go to Origins to do more than just play in the Nationals Championships. Last year I attended Origins and didn't even play in the National Championships because it wasn't even on my chart of things to do.
So, there are 2 people that might reconsider their trip if Pokemon moved away from Origins. I am sure there are some others, and I am sure your guess of 90% is WAY off.
I personally don't think there should even be a Worlds Championship! It makes people crazy. It is slowly killing the game. Here's why.
Out of the dozens and dozens of people I've met only a very, very small percent said they went to nationals for origins. Nearly EVERYONE said that the only reason they got an origins pass was to participate in nationals.
We could care less about all those other games they showcase. Sure, a few people like the other games they see, but I don't spend 70 dollars on a badge for pirates or whatever stuff people play... it's for nationals. And this is the same sentiment I've heard from every other player I've met besides 1-2 people before I read the few responses in this thread.
Origins makes like 50k just from badges from pokemon players... it's kind of ridiculous.
I think 90% is pretty close. In fact, we should make a poll:
Why do you pay for your origins badge?
1. To play in Nationals
2. To go to Origins
Let's see what the percentages bring in =D
I'd be much happier giving my money directly to POP to support the game rather than some lame convention. The convention does nothing for me but hike up food/hotels and make it hard to find good food/service or prices. Origins smells bad, has a lot of rude people, and is generally a waste of time for anything other than pokemon. The slight enjoyment I get out of receiving a booster pack of Pirates or seeing poorly made costumes does NOT constitute my paying for my badge. I spend that much money because of pokemon... the other stuff is negligible and I think most people feel the same way.
Ok, on a lighter note. Can we ditch the babies? Is Pikachu not cute enough? Do squealy little
voices really make them cuter? Are any of them playable except for Chingling (careful what you
say about Chingling....)?
Last year I attended Origins and didn't even play in the National Championships because it wasn't even on my chart of things to do.
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No offense, but if that is really the case, how can you possibly be in the same area as the National Championships, the second biggest event of year, and not play? I don't understand why you even participate in the OP season if you don't even bother to play in nats when you have the chance. But I guess to each his own.
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Cool. You're in the minority. I pay for my badge to play in nats, as does 90% of the players >_>
I agree, I could honestly care less about the other games being shown, its all about nats for me.
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It would be one thing to argue that you should move US Nationals around. We've done it here in Canada with our Nationals being Toronto the last few years and in Vancouver this year. I expect it'll be back in Toronto next year, and in Edmonton in 2010 or 2011. ....But no international player wants to go to Texas in the middle of August.
Yeah unfortunately change takes time. I'm sure that even with all these different suggestions POP will have their hands full of stuff they'd like to change but can't realistically very easily. We have to then realistically be as patient as we can, to be around when some of these good suggestions actually bear any fruit. We can't be sure they will use any of this, but I'm sure they are reading closely.I think it's kind of rediculous that some people don't want to pay 5$ to get into a tournament after you spend hundreds of dollars on cards. It doesn't even have to be for everyone, having it just for the masters is fine, and even then just for majors. We're the people that are more likely to be way more competetive than the younger kids anyway. Granted, yeah, I agree with you there.
I don't know how engraved this is into the pokemon community since I'm fairly new, just having started playing the newer cards in December. But I think the Swiss format is terrible, change it to double elimination. I know it's there to ensure that even if you're not one of the best you still get a chance to play all day, but when I was at regionals anyone that cared about rankings figured when they weren't going to be in top8 just dropped. The only people left playing were the ones that didn't care about ranking, weren't going to make it, and playing meaningless games anyway. So even if you go 2 and out you can still play casuals or have some side tournaments. This, again, could be done just for the masters who probably understand winning and losing a lot more than the younger kids. Fair enough, but even after 2 loses, even many of the older age group would be completely frustrated, and tend to quit going if they didn't have the opportunity to fully play things out.
I'm with a lot of other people in that we need to emulate the japanese system of more sets in each modified. ... Yep, I even mentioned that earlier.
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I also don't like how you play with at most a 59 card deck every game. Ummm, yeah, I think that was an attempt at humor. I would also like a sideboard and 2 out of 3 at tournaments. But I don't really think those things are gonna be changed anytime soon:lol:
I think it's kind of rediculous that some people don't want to pay 5$ to get into a tournament after you spend hundreds of dollars on cards.
Maybe if you can't afford to go to private school you should be going to public shoool. And if you're in college maybe you should get a part time job to pay for your college like everybody else instead of relying on winning a Pokemon tournament!