Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Increased PM Space

Wayne, I'm not sure how my original post was vague? I'd like to see PM storage increased because it will make trading easier. The reasons why, I think, are obvious, but they've also been touched on by other posters here.

After your helpful post I also bumped the thread in TCH. Perhaps I should also post a link to this thread in there to give more context and show support?

As for solution, I'd say global would be great (100-150?), and, if possible, you can also gain more via ranks.
 
We really need more forum space. I mean, even role playing games like Werewolf would get a huge boost. Mods will have too much trouble PM'ing 20 to 40 other players just to delete them all. Then, they get the abilities from all of the players which they also have to delete. Worst of all, most mods reply with Noted which will equal ANOTHER 20 to 30 PMs. It just is too little in general. On top of that, downloading them could leave to viruses on your computer.. All in all, not only traders would benefit, but Forum Mods, RPG Players, and even casual people would benefit from this as well. I would at least say 75 to 100. Beyond that may be overkill.
 
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Now we are getting somewhere...

Okay, AnUnown, yes, post a link to this topic in the TCH topic. That way the TC folks can see the discussion. Also, take some of the other reasons that have been brought up in this topic and put them into your OP. That will give more reasons for the increase than just the Trading end of things.

PM, good additional thought, I never really thought about the games that are run, and no one else posted anything about that here.

Pointing out that you would love to argue with EP but will not, is just the same as posting to stir the pot, you may want to remove that, as it adds nothing and will not be a benefit to this discussion.

Not to irritate anyone, but Staff do have a higher limit of PM space, as part of the requirement of our jobs is to retain PMs from Reminders, Infractions and other things... However, that being said, I do support a raised limit across the board for all members. I do agree that it will have a positive benefit to all members, not just a chosen few. That is why I am not a fan of option 3 in the list I made above, as it singles out one group over another... Anyone remember the prizes argument from Regionals??
 
AnUnown said:
I'm not sure where to post this, but since another forum change thread was also posted in this forum, I figured here is as good as any.

I also posted a while back in the private area and never got a response. Can we get a PM increase? For folks who trade and keep PMs as a record (and sometimes as evidence), it really does get hard keeping your PM count down. I'm forever deleting sent PMs, and making sure I quote a big conversation in a reply so that when the response comes in I continue to have a record and can go back and delete earlier PMs.

Is there a reason why the limit is so low? Is there something we can do to get them increased? Perhaps a "supporter" member level, or something that happens when you have X itrader etc?

I know everyone hates the comparison to pokebeach, but I barely trade over there, have 139 messages and am only using 12% of my allotted space. Here?



I of course go back and clean out convos, but there are some PMs you want to keep for various reasons, and as those increase, you start to bump up against that ceiling more and more often.

Here are a listing of reasons why this would make sense:
  • Traders PM back and forth often to make a deal and often need to keep PMs to keep track of trades, addresses etc
  • Forum games require a lot of back and forth PMing. While moderators and admins have larger boxes, the players do not and can often use much of their space going back and forth with game updates. It's not always feasible to constantly search for uneeded PMs and delete just to receive the next message.
  • Saving PMs offline, while possible, is very inconvenient -- especially for those who do a lot of posting from mobile devices (Android, iOS, iPad and other devices with tapatalk installed), where it then becomes fairly impossible
  • The 50 limit is fairly small compared to other forums (some smaller) in general and especially in the pokemon community.
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The part i put in bold is against gym rules. All negotiations are to be made in the forums until the trade is agreed on. You are not allowed to negotiate trades in pm.
 
Perhaps my wording was ill-chosen, however I do know that once a deal is spoken about in a thread, traders usually "PM to confirm" at which point addresses are exchanged and discussions over who sends first, when they'll send, tracking numbers and other updates on the trade take place.

I do believe those are well-within the rules. Any other issues with the proposal?
 
Can't just be spoken about in the thread. You must come to an agreement in the thread. Also the following must be in the thread. discussions over who sends first, when they'll send, We are having a problem with a trader now agreeing in a thread to a trade and then in pm refusing to send first when he has 0 refs.Tracking and updates can be made in pm.

Can't believe i am saying this but this rest look OK. :eek:
 
evil psyduck said:
We are having a problem with a trader now agreeing in a thread to a trade and then in pm refusing to send first when he has 0 refs.
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Not to take this too far off-course, but the above would happen regardless (since, as you said, they agreed in the thread). Sounds like a bad trader overall unfortunately.

evil psyduck said:
Can't believe i am saying this but this rest look OK. :eek:
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Hope it didn't cost you too much to say that :cool:
 
I can see how adding an additional 50 more to the PM cap will be of help in many ways for the members. Especially for WW game mods and players. I see at least 2 groups (traders/WW) who will benefit from the addition to the cap limit. To be fair across the board- all members could use the limit rise.

Honestly, there are many ways to save PM's if people really need to hang on to certain ones. I think more then 100 is too much, but that is how I see it. Unless there is a bad case of PM spamming going on to fill your PM box up- a 100 cap limit should suffice if it is allowed to be increased.
 
I just get worried because from time to time I hear from traders "I lost your PM, so I'm sending late"
If we double our PM space, that is double the trades I'll get late...?
 
PokemonTrader said:
I just get worried because from time to time I hear from traders "I lost your PM, so I'm sending late"
If we double our PM space, that is double the trades I'll get late...?
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This feels like a strawman concern to me. I've never had that happen firstly, but more importantly, that's a problem with the trader, not the system.

I had to ask someone I traded with to resend me his address because I got so used to going to "advanced" when I respond to PMs and checking "delete this message" and unchecking "save this message in sent" that I mistakenly deleted the message he'd sent me with his address.

If I wasn't always concerned about deleting to save space, that's a mistake that wouldn't have happened.
 
Not to mention people that wont delete their messages to allow others to send a message to them. I wish there was some sort of way you could still send the message. It would be nice if the recipient would see "you have a new message, but your inbox is full. Delete some messages to view the new one" or something. That way they could at least know they have a new message coming in. I doubt that is something that can be fixed though. In the very least, more message space should help with those who seem to constantly have 100 percent full inbox. It would be harder for them to fill it up completely.
 
See, but some people clearly don't empty their "sent" box....
I do agree 50 is low, but I think 100 is too high...
Perhaps 50 in each?
50 inbox, 50 in sent.
 
TonySandlin said:
Not to mention people that wont delete their messages to allow others to send a message to them. I wish there was some sort of way you could still send the message. It would be nice if the recipient would see "you have a new message, but your inbox is full. Delete some messages to view the new one" or something. That way they could at least know they have a new message coming in. I doubt that is something that can be fixed though. In the very least, more message space should help with those who seem to constantly have 100 percent full inbox. It would be harder for them to fill it up completely.
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I've run into this myself, though not intentionally. Sometimes I get a bunch of PMs in between the last time I was able to get online. The forum sends you an email saying your box is full though, so I usually hop on as soon as I can to clear space and send the person who tried to PM me a message.
 
AnUnown said:
I've run into this myself, though not intentionally. Sometimes I get a bunch of PMs in between the last time I was able to get online. The forum sends you an email saying your box is full though, so I usually hop on as soon as I can to clear space and send the person who tried to PM me a message.
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It would make sense that it would get full from time to time if you are getting a lot of messages. I've had it happen to me, but I was online so I deleted some other ones quickly since I was in the middle of a conversation. I dont recall getting an email though. I might not be linked up to email updates from the Gym.
 
evil psyduck said:
The part i put in bold is against gym rules. All negotiations are to be made in the forums until the trade is agreed on. You are not allowed to negotiate trades in pm.
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Im just wondering but why is that even a rule? Yet, how do you even know if people are even breaking that rule?

The limit needs to be increased for so many common sense reasons. I get pms all the time asking me when I sent out, if i can leave feedback, letting me know when i sent out, lots of messages that i usually just glance it and then dont need to have in my inbox and if answer them, it adds more junk to my inbox. My box gets easily filled faster than you can say shesellsseashellsbytheseashore.

Id appreciate it also if the staff could actually give us a bit of whats on your mind instead of these very unfriendly 1 liners that basically mean "no tough luck". Why does staff even bother to respond if its not going to be anything worth hearing? To be honest its not really helpful or serves a purpose when the responses they give dont help anybody. If anything its just going to leave a bad taste in somebodys mouth.

I run a business and if I want people coming back, Id like communication between us to be open and straight forward and like people to know that I acknowledge them. I would be out of business if I acted like I didnt care about their feelings and didnt give anyone the time of day.
 
Having more PM space would be very nice. On another forum I am on, we get 100 PMs per person, and that works just fine.
 
FSULugia said:
Im just wondering but why is that even a rule? Yet, how do you even know if people are even breaking that rule?
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It's a rule so that people can't make up or bring up anything about a trade saying "but in PM, he said this". It's more of something to point to saying 'we warned you, and we can't help you'.
 
I always found it hilarious that on pokebeach, a site where I get less trading activity, I have an infinite amount of pm space. Here I have to constantly delete everything I do with more activity. I was up to 40 pms today and I am only like on a 5th trade and a couple of buys. And I never negotiate anything in pms.
 
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