JUST GOT REAL. A Mime Jr. Speculation / Realization of Potential Thread.

[sToRm07]

Again I say; what about Absol G Lv.X? Ain't it like the EXACT same thing, only with much more HP, and Mime's attack is a power (albeit a bit flippy) but Absol actually has a damaging attack too?

I'm kinda lost here. And Sablock does what this does better imo.

Sablelock cannot reduce searching for vital cards in your deck to rubble consistently. It merely puts them back (albeit at the bottom) of your opponent's deck.

I plan to run 3 sableyes in this deck while SF is still in format. Though I will be trumping them with running 4 Jirachi RR to try to be able to Detour a Cyrus on T2 - making my opponent have the chance to lose up to 4 cards out of their hand immediately.


chatot G is used for both Sableye and this Mime Jr concept, but mime jr can utilize it better by not only controlling the opponent's flow of resources - But lost zoning them and crippling there deck to the magnitutde of which they cannot recover

Absol G LvL X. - its days are limited and it is flippy and harder to swarm than mime jr. Too much time is needed, and luck, for it to be a feasible replacement to mime jr.

---------- Post added 01/31/2011 at 03:52 PM ----------

Ad Add in the slowking from HGSS and you can put pokemon on top of there deck.

for some reason, you did not read this thread in it's entirety to realize this has already been discussed. XD

What reason would this be? <3

 

[Porii Sames]

Absol G Lv.X has a 12.5% chance of not Zoning anything.

But it has way more HP.

And a good, consistent, 60 attack. And a 20 snipe attack. And a gimmicky attack that could help with the lock.

Sablock doesn't care if they eventually recover the cards or not because by then it will be too late because they will have up a Cyrus chain and DOuble Chomp, in addition to techs to beat whatever you have.

Yeah...

 

[sToRm07]

Absol G Lv.X has a 12.5% chance of not Zoning anything.

But it has way more HP.

And a good, consistent, 60 attack. And a 20 snipe attack. And a gimmicky attack that could help with the lock.

Sablock doesn't care if they eventually recover the cards or not because by then it will be too late because they will have up a Cyrus chain and DOuble Chomp, in addition to techs to beat whatever you have.

Yeah...

mime jr. has a 100% chance of lost zoning something.

Imagine the resources needed to try to swarm the absol G Lvl. X like you could swarm mime jr.

G LVL X has a laughable attack, and even has a retreat cost - hurting your chances for adapting strategy.

yeah...

 

[LoTad]

Ok but absol g doesn't have a 100% chance of being knocked out. You may be disrupting your opponent, but at too steep of a cost imo. Btw I'm not arguing for absol g, I just don't think either of the ideas are too great.

 

[sToRm07]

Ok but absol g doesn't have a 100% chance of being knocked out. You may be disrupting your opponent, but at too steep of a cost imo. Btw I'm not arguing for absol g, I just don't think either of the ideas are too great.

ok, if i am able to lock quickly (just like sablelock) mime jr is going to be able to get the win more times than not i am hoping. I am concerned about the cost, and about mime jr, getting crobatted and such, but i believe this can be worked around with a speedy lock - which this deck will be built around.

Giratina is a theoretical possibility in this deck, as mime jr. starts lost zoning things, one can combo giratina with broken space blow + pokemon reversal to snipe out uxies and azelfs for a quick lost zone send off.

Many times, i am predicting not to keep a pure lock for a long time, and things will start to get messy; this is where twins come in and the hopeful one Sweet Sleeping Face use per game. Probable for this to happen once? yes.

Just think, you initiate a cyrus + Jirachi RR Detour + chatot lock early on - starving them of resources with winning up to 4 coin flips.

preload your opponent's deck to draw trash one turn, and then have the next card something good so mime can lost zone it the next. Shuffle things up with Spiritomb + Seeker or SSU as many times as you can if you do not like the top 4, and then Seeker / ssu / poketurn chatot for another peak to see if you can lost zone something nice.

This deck is all about speed, and crippling your opponent when you lock while simultaneously nuking their star pokemon / resources.

My theory was that Absol was a little to slow in this, being a lvl X and all, and this is why this deck has not seen much coverage before.

time will tell!

 

[LoTad]

^ Yeah but that's a ton of different cards you just listed off. I don't really doubt your ability to cohesively fit them into a deck or anything, but either way I think it would be tough to start doing what you want to do early and be able to continue doing it at a decent pace.

 

[sToRm07]

^ Yeah but that's a ton of different cards you just listed off. I don't really doubt your ability to cohesively fit them into a deck or anything, but either way I think it would be tough to start doing what you want to do early and be able to continue doing it at a decent pace.

right. I need to talk less and test more at this point. XD

 

[jeffrey123]

The deck is legit.

 

[Kayle]

Absol G Lv.X has a 12.5% chance of not Zoning anything.

But it has way more HP.

And a good, consistent, 60 attack. And a 20 snipe attack. And a gimmicky attack that could help with the lock.

Sablock doesn't care if they eventually recover the cards or not because by then it will be too late because they will have up a Cyrus chain and DOuble Chomp, in addition to techs to beat whatever you have.

Yeah...

20 Snipe is pretty useless.

Having the chance to fail at all sucks, and the fact that it takes a lot more cards to get it going (a lv. x and turns, mostly) makes it more suck.

 

[sToRm07]

The deck is legit.

and the cool part is - I feel like there are many ways to run it!

teching at least a few cards is very possible for this deck.

 

[Porii Sames]

BUT SABLOCK DOES EVERYTHING THIS DOES BUT BETTER!

SUre, stuff don't go in the Zone. But it doesn't even matter since you can just Snipe stuff every turn and destroy their set up, if any.

 

[sToRm07]

BUT SABLOCK DOES EVERYTHING THIS DOES BUT BETTER!

SUre, stuff don't go in the Zone. But it doesn't even matter since you can just Snipe stuff every turn and destroy their set up, if any.

Sablelock is now overplayed. He will also die out soon with the SF set, and is prepared for in match-ups much more.

 

[Porii Sames]

It's still better...

 

[sToRm07]

It's still better...

haha you basically bumped this thread. :] like i am doing now. XD


but not really - just got the necessary proxies, and about to start the testing.

a guy a floor above me plays a nice sablelock. Perhaps i will test with him soon too.

 

[wulfboy15]

Hm... well, maybe use Giratina and Giratina Lv.X while you still can. Giratina for the Broken Space Blow and then the Lv.X to sweep everything and potentially get quite a few pokemon into the Lost zone.

 

[sToRm07]

Hm... well, maybe use Giratina and Giratina Lv.X while you still can. Giratina for the Broken Space Blow and then the Lv.X to sweep everything and potentially get quite a few pokemon into the Lost zone.

exactly! This has been mentioned before in this thread - please read

In fact, the deck i am about to test involves Giratina and Broke space blow.

 

[wulfboy15]

That and if you're feeling really spontaneous, Drifblim from Stormfront might not be bad either if you get caught in a bad situation.

---------- Post added 01/31/2011 at 05:29 PM ----------

Great, now you guys have me doing this!

4 Mime Jr.
2-2 Slowking
4 Jirachi
4 Chatot G
2 Pichu
2 Cleffa

4 Bebe's Search
2 Pokemon Collector
4 Judge
4 Marley's Request
4 Vs. Seeker
4 Lucky Egg
3 Lost World
3 Lost Remover
4 Seeker
4 Switch
4 Warp Point

This be my variant that I just might try at league

 

[TheKing]

Do you really expect to be able to get 6 pokemon in the lost zone before your opponent koes your 30 hp basics?

 

[wulfboy15]

Who ever said that this type of deck was going to be competitive? Sure, once the rotation comes about then it has more potential and it can swarm the field really well.
Also, if you'll notice, there's not that many Pokemon that can inflict special conditions or place damage counters, making this deck a bit more playable

 

[TheKing]

crobat G, Gengar Prime, Gengar SF, etc, not to mention that you're reling on a coin flip to protect your babies