DIZZtheWHIZZ
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I like the card, but we have no idea what the card pool is going to be when it comes out/when it comes out/if the meta will shift by then. We'll just have to wait and see.
Kyurem...
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Denjin Hadou
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There ya go. Fixed it :thumb:
lucario aura wielder
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more like you being a troll edition
dialga master
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I don't understand what you are saying.
After a few spread attacks, your opponent should have a lot of damage on their field.
DCL lets you manipulate the damage, and KO a few higher HP pokemon critical to your opponents strategy.
There was a deck using this straegy in my area in masters and it was pretty good. (MD-on)
Scipio
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The best thing about this is that his weakness...well, the only two really viable cards that hit his weakness (Steelix and Scizor prime) both get toasted to mincemeat by Reshiram, and neither of them favors their Zekrom matchup either (Do note that after Bolt Strike, Zekrom survives Gaia Impact, pluspowers notwithstanding). This alone makes the playfield for Kyurem a very nice one.
Also, after two rounds of spread from Kyurem, Feraligatr will OHKO anything that got hit by those. That makes Kyurem a lot more dangerous then at first percieved.
The big thing that sets Kyurem apart from his brothers...
Zekrom and Reshiram both have two modes: Kill and Kill Harder. They don't do anything else but hammer hard, even their backup options (Read; Emboar) can't do anything else. Whereas Kyurem can soften stuff up for quick KO's from something even bulkier who attacks without drawback, and he still has Outrage too.
Also, after two rounds of spread from Kyurem, Feraligatr will OHKO anything that got hit by those. That makes Kyurem a lot more dangerous then at first percieved.
The big thing that sets Kyurem apart from his brothers...
Zekrom and Reshiram both have two modes: Kill and Kill Harder. They don't do anything else but hammer hard, even their backup options (Read; Emboar) can't do anything else. Whereas Kyurem can soften stuff up for quick KO's from something even bulkier who attacks without drawback, and he still has Outrage too.
JPN Gallade
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I think Kyurem has huge potential. The new Kyurem seems to be just as good as its two other members of its trio, Reshiram and Zekrom. Like the other two, it has Outrage, which can help a lot when Kyurem has lots of damage counters on it, and the more damage counters on Kyurem, the higher the damage. Kyurem also has one of or perhaps the best weakness in the game as of now: Metal. If Reshiram is going to be highly played still once Kyurem comes out, then steel types like Steelix and Scizor won't be seeing play due to the fact that they are weak to fire, which is a huge disadvantage when they face Reshiram, so Kyurem doesn't have to worry about weakness at all.
Kyurem is pretty well noted for its second attack. Unlike its brothers Reshiram and Zekrom, it doesn't go straight away for huge damage, but rather, it spreads, and it'll be perhaps one of the best spreaders in the format when it comes out. For three energy (two water, one colorless), it can spread 30 to all of the opponent's Pokemon. This is quite huge, as it creates quite a spread attack. Combo Kyurem with Feraligatr Prime and you have once menacing combo already. Feraigatr helps for energy acceleration, allowing Kyurem to attack faster, much like how Emboar helps to make Reshiram attack faster. As you spread with Kyurem, you can be able to lay enough damage to the point you can even promote Feraligatr and start KOing all of your opponent's Pokemon with its attack. That will happen, however, once Kyurem gets knocked out, as it is more likely you'll be spreading more than hitting hard most of the time. The only thing that would really counter the spread these days would be Serperior since its ability allows it to remove 1 damage counter from each of the player's Pokemon. Yet, once again, like Scizor and Steelix, because of how rampant fire is in our format, Serperior shouldn't really see any play because it has fire weakness, so once again, this leaves Kyurem at a safe spot, being able to be the spreader that it is.
Indeed, I can definitely see Kyurem affecting our metagame in some way since it is possible that with this card, spread decks will likely be brought back into the metagame.
Kyurem is pretty well noted for its second attack. Unlike its brothers Reshiram and Zekrom, it doesn't go straight away for huge damage, but rather, it spreads, and it'll be perhaps one of the best spreaders in the format when it comes out. For three energy (two water, one colorless), it can spread 30 to all of the opponent's Pokemon. This is quite huge, as it creates quite a spread attack. Combo Kyurem with Feraligatr Prime and you have once menacing combo already. Feraigatr helps for energy acceleration, allowing Kyurem to attack faster, much like how Emboar helps to make Reshiram attack faster. As you spread with Kyurem, you can be able to lay enough damage to the point you can even promote Feraligatr and start KOing all of your opponent's Pokemon with its attack. That will happen, however, once Kyurem gets knocked out, as it is more likely you'll be spreading more than hitting hard most of the time. The only thing that would really counter the spread these days would be Serperior since its ability allows it to remove 1 damage counter from each of the player's Pokemon. Yet, once again, like Scizor and Steelix, because of how rampant fire is in our format, Serperior shouldn't really see any play because it has fire weakness, so once again, this leaves Kyurem at a safe spot, being able to be the spreader that it is.
Indeed, I can definitely see Kyurem affecting our metagame in some way since it is possible that with this card, spread decks will likely be brought back into the metagame.
Johto-Master
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http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Third_Japanese_BW_expansion_announced
So Japan's THIRD Black and White set was announced, and Kyurem is one of the two cover Pokemon. There might be an even MORE powerful Kyurem card coming this way, which is good. While the Spread Kyurem is very threatening, this meta needs a hard-hitting water type to whomp on Reshiram's and Donphan's weakness. There's NO telling what it could do, but I expect to see Kyurem become a very familiar face this year.
So Japan's THIRD Black and White set was announced, and Kyurem is one of the two cover Pokemon. There might be an even MORE powerful Kyurem card coming this way, which is good. While the Spread Kyurem is very threatening, this meta needs a hard-hitting water type to whomp on Reshiram's and Donphan's weakness. There's NO telling what it could do, but I expect to see Kyurem become a very familiar face this year.
David's Confused Pokedad
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They already have Samurott... Kyurem will still outplay it though.
Johto-Master
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Yes I know, but it has Zekrom weakness and it's another stage 2. If it were just to be a water version of Reshiram the meta would have a lot more balance.
But there still need to be something to keep Machamp in check.
Kyurem isn't weak to Zekrom. It has a steel weakness.
Swordfish1989
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Re-read their post; they were referring to Samurott.
SadCinccino
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The problem with this is, kids get to hyped up about cards that in all reality, are bad. Perfect example, Arceus Lv.X's, everyone thought they were so good and started putting decks togather with them, when in the end it was a waste of their time. The problem with this card is it has to many counters. People can just Seeker up their baby pokemon and even if it has metal weekness it can still get OHKO by Reshiram and Zekrom. This card is not that great. Im tired, and im sure others are to, of people over hyping these new cards that are good in some way but are probobly not going to be good in the metagame. I am NOT saying this card is bad, I am simply saying, dont over hype a card until it comes out and there is ACTUALLY a deck with it that can survive the metagame and win against the T1 decks.
Zekrom8806
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This isn't just hype Kyurem paired with Feraligatr Prime is a true power house. First 30 spread by turn 2 isn't anything to laugh at and by turn 4 if Kyurem hasn't been ko'd then that makes a spread of 90 damage and what ever is still on the field will then have to deal with a Feraligatr that can do 150 every turn after. It's fast and powerful and not much will be able to stop it
Johto-Master
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You call people kids when you yourself have terrible sentence structure and don't seem to know the difference between to and too, but I'm going to stop there because that's not what we're talking about.
First - We are allowed to. Period. No one is making you come in here and read this thread. If you open a thread about future cards, expect to see some speculation.
Second - If you were to ever test with it, you would find that it is indeed a monster, and the fact that it spreads makes the damage all the more difficult to pick up. You're wasting a Seeker on a baby Pokemon for one, and two, there will still be damage on everything else. The fact that it's on every Pokemon makes it a LOT harder to heal, because Scoop Up, Seeker, and Max Restore only target one Pokemon.
Third - Zekrom and Reshiram are NOT going to have a Plus Power every single turn. It's not searchable, and the only way to reliably have one is with 4 Pluspowers and 4 Junk arms, which already ruins Zekrom's consistency.
Fourth - It opens up the way for it's partner, Feraligatr, to hit massive damage. Even with a Plus Power Feraligatr will survive a Bolt Strike or Blue Flare, and after 2 Glaciates Feraligatr is hitting 120. Nothing that doesn't resist water that has prior 60 damage can survive a 120 hit. And for the grass types that DO resist it, there is a simple tech in Ruins of Alph.
SadCinccino
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Johto-Master
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Dont get but-hurt over Pokemon jeezyou act like this is life
Still looks like you can't spell, and calling a Pokenerd a nerd!?! So offensive!
You're the one who got all offended because people were hyping a card.