Kyurem...

[Mewtral]

@TrainerEnjay: Np~ And Energy accelerated decks would probably get around the red armor, but they still have to set up. Also scizor isn't a basic, but I still see it as an equal to cobalion. (Especially if Scizor Vs Cobalion were to happen, major stall)

Also Dragons aren't the only thing going to be played, and with Energies like rainbow, prism(coming soon), DCE, Dark, and metal (which should raise in popularity thanks to Kyurem's weakness). I'm not saying Scizor would be a main attacker, but definitely an advantage tech. (Especially if you can protect/heal the bench).

 

[TrainerEnjay]

and you could also have both in the same deck easily. Good points.

 

[thepliskin5005]

Well your right this card is truly an amazing card i do think its better than reshiram or zekrom because this card can get a lot of prize cards with its seond attack.

 

[Patsfan112892]

I want to talk about the broken Kyurem from Red Collection. I think that this card may blow Reshiram and Zekrom out of the water. It is 130Hp, like Zekrom and Reshiram, since it is the third in that trio. It is water type, but with weakness to metal, since it is actually ice. This is the best weakness in the game. Its first attack is outrage for 2 colorless energies, again like Reshiram and Zekrom, for the same reasons. Its second attack it the killer. For two waters and one colorless energy, it does 30 damage to each of your opponent's pokemon. No bad effects like Reshiram or Zekrom's attacks, just 30 spread for 3 energy. Om a basic. Two retreat isn't bad, but definitely doable. Does anyone else think this is broken? Link to the translation at http://pokebeach.com/2011/06/eleven-red-collection-cards

the card itself is good but as a deck in its own its bad

---------- Post added 10/12/2011 at 09:05 PM ----------

the deck is good IF u play 8 victory medal and have double sided coins and dont get caught

 

[waynegg]

The thing is that Zoroark is a stage one, and it doesn't have a way to get enough energy in one turn like the other 3, unless you give up a Special Dark for a Double Colorless. But still, the other 3 are basics and will outspeed him, and his HP doesn't let him survive Zekrom or Reshiram's hits, and spreading on Kyurem will just power up his outrage.

While it really doesn't help against Reshiram, Zoroark is a decent counter to Zekrom, because it's harder for Black Out to set up another dragon. Donphan is a much better choice for a Zekrom counter, but Zoroark has a lot of other uses too.

Unown (DARK) says hello! Zoroark can fairly consistently get 2 turns before any of the 3 pull off their big attack the first time. If you build for it.

 

[AzUK]

Dont forget about Zoroark.. it can use the damage spread and outrage.. me personally, i think Zoroark is the counter to the big 3 in the BW sets.. Just with a Sp.Dark it can 1 hit Zekrom and Reshirom + do a 40 spread with Kyurem attack. And is it me or do the BW pokemon seem like they were just old ideas that didnt make the cut LOL and now that they need something new they are throwing them in a set togather i mean some of their names, really?? LOL

Special Dark does not apply to the bench. Therefore, the Special Dark is just a handicap against Kyreum, as you are forfeiting the DCE attachment.

 

[waynegg]

Therefore, the Special Dark is just a handicap against Kyreum, as you are forfeiting the DCE attachment.

Hello! Unown (DARK) gives you all the energy acceleration you need. You aren't sacrificing anything.

Gothithorne will wreck it as well.

 

[Croatian_Nidoking]

If Steel-types give you headaches, run SEL instead of DCL - plus a Fire energy or two. Hits a Benched Pokemon for 100, plus its second attack can OHKO Steelix in most cases.

- Croatian "ice ice baby!" Nidoking

 

[Cetra]

Insert ross engine. GG...

 

[AzUK]

Hello! Unown (DARK) gives you all the energy acceleration you need. You aren't sacrificing anything.

Unown Dark does not attach the energy. It also doesn't accelerate anything. WYR attack 1 or 2 energies?

 

[Rambo]

[C] Double Hit: 20x damage. Flip 2 coins, this attack does 10 damage times the number of heads.

Hmm typo there I'm guessing.

Also Kyurem cannot stand up to the power of Electivire TM. Mwahaha!

 

[XYZ_Sniper]

Shaymin UL. HEAL EVERYTHING

 

[Carvanha]

Unown Dark does not attach the energy. It also doesn't accelerate anything. WYR attack 1 or 2 energies?

It gives you an immediate energy so you can attach it to Kyru for glaciate.
:/

 

[Cetra]

It gives you an immediate energy so you can attach it to Kyru for glaciate.
:/

Is anyone else confused by this?

 

[Carvanha]

Bench DARK
->
Get Dark Energy
->
Attach to Kyru
->
Attach 2 Water by Feraligatr
->
???
->
Profit
It's like in original Concepts for ZPS where people used DARK to get a dark energy to attack T1, using as an energy search of sorts that could be collectored.

 

[dialga master]

Or you can attach 3 water?

 

[Carvanha]

It's just extra insurance to get a 3rd energy or if you need to conserve Waters.

 

[otarolgam]

Special Dark Energy won't work, people... The effect of the card is negated unless it's attached to a Dark type.

 

[Medaforcer]

Just use three waters or a rescue and two waters, folks. Three is not that hard to get.

 

[Carvanha]

Just use three waters or a rescue and two waters, folks. Three is not that hard to get.

Could say he same for ZPS <_<
DARK is just a tech, and a fun one, I think. Nothing more.