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Marril said:
Too bad, word your initial statement better next time; I recall it having 'original' in it - since your revised criteria for a usable move is apparently 'a move that shows originality.'
Marril said:
oh, who would know? I'm only a former Marth player who used to play PC and Wes monthly - does this not indicate personal experience? I have the nerve to say dsmash is Marth's worst move.
For the sake of your argument, I wouldn't even try refuting this one.
Marril said:
Or an option you could've chosen at the start; don't post.
Marril said:
I'd like to start off and let you know that I'm a half-decent SSBM player (and my tourney standings outline that), and I'd understand anything the pros say seriously.
Also, despite your beliefs, I would definitely ask Ken why he would claim such and such; it's not like I would simply dismiss his statement. Your arguments are becoming sheer speculation. =\
Marril said:
._________________________.;;
Marril said:
I don't care if you underestimated my reactions, you came in here with the sole intent to troll just as you did in another melee thread.
Marril said:
Translation: "I want my opponents to give up the argument from square one."
Marril said:
SHEER SPECULATION
Quote me expressing my hope for wavedashing to be in brawl.
vietgamer1021
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ken looks sooo bad when u see him play, u think "i can beat him", and then u play him, then u get ur ***** handed back to u
i was at a smashfest this weekend, and we did low tier along with normal tourney
i got 2nd in low tier (since my 1st place friend actually mains link) but overall my pichu and roy was destroying people
in normal tourney, i lost since i was laughing so hard at my friend cuz of hisjokes, and my DI sucked when he faired me with ganon in a tourney match
yeeeahh
so thats all
i was at a smashfest this weekend, and we did low tier along with normal tourney
i got 2nd in low tier (since my 1st place friend actually mains link) but overall my pichu and roy was destroying people
in normal tourney, i lost since i was laughing so hard at my friend cuz of hisjokes, and my DI sucked when he faired me with ganon in a tourney match
yeeeahh
so thats all
vietgamer1021
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true
roy and pichu for low tier
roy and pichu for low tier
LionheartEX
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oh good god...Marril and Hax...you have too much spare time on your hands... learn to get yourselves off or something ... thats more constructive than your arguments
and Shiek ftw!
and Shiek ftw!
vietgamer1021
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reverse dolphin slash is the coolest move to ever end a combo/edgeguard with
LionheartEX
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im sorry lol. im not great at SSBM... I dunno all the move terms and stuff.... revers dolphin slash is?
vietgamer1021
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you do marths up+b when you are very close to the enemy but u do it reverse
its hard to explain
its hard to explain
LionheartEX
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ahh I get it. ty lol
chriscobi634
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Looked it up. And air dodge could easily prevent any of those KOs?
Has anyone heard of a wave dash? if anyone has, please provide URL for a video if it exist. And how do you do it?
Do you know what a combo is? How about recovery time? Stun time? Lag?
No, wavedashes don't exist. The entire basis for this 20+ page argument between Hax and Marril is a lie.
mewoxys666
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Lol. Wow. Yeah Wavedashing exists. It basically manipulates the game physics engine to perform a slide in either a backwards or forward motion. Highly used in competeitive play, it is a bug ( as claimed by some) and some look down upon it. However the competeitive Melee community doesn't care about small time opinions such as complaints about the abuse of a bug and such.
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You know what? I'm just going to assume you don't have the capacity to understand what I'm saying, as my "revised criteria" has nothing like that, as I've said multiple times before. Moving on...
I'll note you didn't actually answer the question.
"Look at me, I can imitate Marril!"
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...
And your, "You can't wavedash" isn't?
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Marril said:
How would it have been "giving up"? Wavedashing being a bug is no less objectively true than MissingNo. being one, and yet there are those who shamelessly admit to using that. It's everyone's irrational needs to somehow justify their actions, to convince everyone that they don't resort to bug abuse to win, that forces them to argue with me in this thread.
I'll get right on it after you get me those back-ordered quotes I asked for pages ago proving wavedashing isn't a bug.
You forgot to mention that I made some fake videos and posted them under fake names to random sites for the sole purpose of making it all the more convincing because then people like Chris could Google it and find them.
Translation: "If you aren't a famous tournament winner, screw off."
It's actually like the English community in a way. If you aren't a famous writer, nobody in it will give you the time of day, but if you are, everyone takes your opinion as fact.
Phazon Elite
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Side note here.....
That actually applies to MANY wide-spread gaming communities. Lafonte, smashboards, bungie.net (which is now defunct, BTW) -- even the Pokegym sometimes.
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LionheartEX
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yeah it does. I remember getting ignored by a lot of people at worlds lol
Marril said:
Wow, the irony. Calling your opponent a dumbass who can't translate your statements and moving on to create 10 more debates as if I'm supposed to understand those. xD
Marril said:
I'll note that you didn't take the time to refute this properly because you know I've won this portion of the argument.
You play non-competitively, I play competitively; I've explained this before. Competitive players beat non-competitive players; if you played in tournaments you would realize your entire dsmash argument is ****ing illogical and makes no sense at all. Now, you take this to the extent where you're telling a highly competitive smasher that playing PC and Wes replicates no personal experience at all. You have a ****load of nerve to be honest, you don't even know what you're saying/talking about.
Marril said:
Except, you're the one who came here first to start this argument. You've destroyed another melee thread because of your theories and you therefore didn't have to come in here and express the same exact theory as before.
You just don't give up, that's how you win arguments. You can argue for pages over something that's wrong, until the opponent just ****ing relents and gives up; this is like talking to a wall. You show no acknowledgement of the fact that I made it to round 4 of MLG NYC (as if you'd pass the first round), ONLY losing 1 stock to DireVulcan; the best G&W in the world - who I can consistantly beat as of now. I've placed high in many other tournies as well, yet you act as if my rankings mean nothing.
I don't acknowledge you as a coder (and therefore do not believe your theories on wavedashing) because you said, 'you're not actually jumping during a wavedash.' You are acting as if something that is invisible to the human eye is not there; wavedashes still have slight jump frames - it only appears that they aren't there because frames are 1/60 a second which is too fast to see. This is a good enough reason to disregard your 'wavedashing is a bug' arguments; that was a really dumb statement for a self-proclaimed coder to say.
Of course, you'll find an excuse to refute my above argument; that is, after all, how you win arguments. =\
Marril said:
Oh, I can back that up. You said 'you're not actually jumping during a wavedash.' To my knowledge, you are; how am I supposed to believe that?
It was also after that statement that I began to think you couldn't wavedash, proof my arguments are far from speculation.
Marril said:
First of all.. 'to convince everyone' <- try it on smashboards, you'll get a much better argument than I'm giving you. There's a REASON you're on the PokeGym, and not SWF. :wink:
Marril said:
I've already explained this. =/
I'm unable to quote something from years ago. On the other hand, I've never said 'the game would suck without WDing,' yet you interpret my posts in that sense.
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