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Why do I get a feeling you are right about this?
But Gengar not being broken is like Ash's Pikachu evolving into Raichu. Its never going to happen. :tongue:
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dave321
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WOW. INCREDIBLY CHEAP. Honestly I wouldn't even care if not for that stadium but with that convention that's just terrible. Calling Gengar as BDIF for the next year (IT GETS THIS, CURSEGAR, SPIRITOMB, AND GENGAR X STILL???) if this comes out.
dave321
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It's not promotional, it's just a part of the small 40-card set. This will probably be the set we get before worlds.
EDIT: It's the OTHER 4 cards that are promotional. The Espeon/Umbreon, Lost Removal, and Zangoose. Mew, the stadium, Dark/Cress Legend, and Lucario are part of the main set. Just to clear up your confusion.
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Time for Pain
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^those are the promos but lost removal and zangoose are still in the main set.
dave321
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EDIT: Sorry for the misunderstanding. Basically just reposted what you said. But yes, those cards are both in the main set along with the 4 I mentioned.
lucario aura wielder
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no must be 17 charcaters
toxictaipan
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Did anyone else's Troll-Dar[sup]TM[/sup] just go *BEEP* really loud? 'Cuz mine did.
If that card comes out with Lost World in the same format, I.. I... I just don't know what I'll do.
afstandopleren
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Quiting Pokemon for a while to keep your sanity would be a good option.
ApachePrime
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You'll learn to play around it, just like we did with SF Gengar?
Dances with Ninjas
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It's pretty hard to play around in theory unless you're playing SPs (but then again, who doesn't?). With Spiritomb blocking your trainers, you could have a hand full of Stage 2 cards begging to be candied. Then it's as good as GGPO next turn, stadium or not, with a good fraction of your evolution cards in the Lost Zone.
1.Study the effect the card will have on the format and ways there are to counter it.
2.Adapt
3.Either build the deck* so you can learn what it does and what is strenghts and weakness's are.* Or build a deck that is made to get around the problem.
4. Contiune playing and enjoy the game.
toxictaipan
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You can continuously dump trainers from your hand. However, you only have 5 Bench spots. I have no idea of the rotation, but if Palkia G LV.X is in the same format, then it's game either way.
Obviously there must be some counter to the Lost Zone if they're going to make it this big all of a sudden. If there isn't, well....
1. What if there are no counters?
2. By making the best list of the deck I can? By facing a mirror match in every match I play until a crucial part of the deck is rotated out, or a solid counter is released?
3. See 1 and 2.
4. Like I did in '07 when Plox was the BDIF?
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Has this even happened in pokemon since sneasel and slowking got banned? Really, no counters? Our BDIF curently counters this new gimmick. Luxray lv X (you know, the most popular card in the game) hitting Palkia G for weakness, and luxchomp being awesome at trolling any kind of setup seems like they'd be pretty awesome counters so far. But hey this is just Theroymon about a card that hasn't even been revealed yet (in reference to that gengar), and to cards that don't even have a definite release date, what do I know (or anybody else) know?
Jeremy Badeaux
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Sneasal was banned when the original modified was announced ("in the box" as it were).
Sneasal was never legal in modified, therefore there was no point during which it was impossible to counter (it's like saying venucenter was broken in modified).
Sorry to rant, but so many people in these forums keep bringing up Sneasal like it was ever in modified to begin with. lol
Slowking actually did have a counter (Muk was reprinted in Legendary Collection, Igglybuff from Neo Discovery was around, and let's not forget Neo Pichu). It was banned because every winning deck had to run Slowking and fill up their bench for it to be effective (the only difference in decks was a matter of one or two pokemon).
If you want something more spot on for this kind of topic, how about the days of Feraligator with Riptide (Neo Genesis)?
Everything had to be gatr or a direct counter to gatr that pretty much died against anything that wasn't gatr.
What if your luxray goes to the lost zone before you even play it from your hand?
What if SP decks have to be more careful with coming into play powers because they can't afford to be wasting bench spots against a lost deck?
What if the set gives us more lost zone friendly cards that aren't weak to lightning?
There are too many variables to be saying that one card is going to stop lost world from being any good.
We only know of about 25% of the set so far, so it isn't exactly crazy to think that there will be more lost zone stuff coming.
waynegg
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Sorry, but you're dead wrong on that. My son and I both qualified multiple times and earned invitations to STS while playing Sneasel decks.
Spot on with your analysis (most of it). I've only got into the game back in May after a hiatus from Neo genesis sneasel, lol. The rest concerning the history of pokemon I just pieced together from the 'gym, thanks for clearing that up.
I'm just trying to show that the large amount of over-reaction due to theorymon, theorycraft, theoryfigher, etc is usually unwarranted, especially for things that technically don't even exist yet. These cards could never get released, get mistranslated, the world ends before they come out, etc for all we know.
You know what the best counter to theroymon is? More theorymon, its a terrible never ending cycle. (I lied, the best counter is not even reading those threads, lol).
In regards to that gatr, what was the competitive landscape back then? Were there as many whiners as in comparison to, lets say, SP (currently) or Plox circa 2008? How "close" was it to getting banned?
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